ECNL $10,000/yr vs Thorns Academy $500/yr

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Watching that link is like spraying an aerosol can of Lysol up your nose.

C'mon you know you wish the Timbers had Timber View so you could watch your TA teams. Too bad you don't. Hmmm, come to think of it, the only thing the Timbers have done for TA teams is give them a patch to wear. Have they done anything else????

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It's really cool to talk tough on the Internet.

That wasn't talking tough, that was talking reality. Any of the Oregon ECNL teams would thump on every TA team.

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Because of the $8,000 to $10,000 per year price tag they are excluding a lot of talent in exchange for rich kids.

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A lot of talented kids aren't rich.

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How about a truce?

I won't degrade your program if you don't degrade my program?

We could do this all day.

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Because of the $8,000 to $10,000 per year price tag they are excluding a lot of talent in exchange for rich kids.

My price tage is $5600.00. That's a whole $1600.00 more. A little over 100 dollars a month. Big whoop. I'm not rich by far. But it's still worth not having to go through the usual Oregon bs

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My price tage is $5600.00. That's a whole $1600.00 more. A little over 100 dollars a month. Big whoop. I'm not rich by far. But it's still worth not having to go through the usual Oregon bs

$1600 more than I paid in the past. But with much better tournaments.

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My price tage is $5600.00. That's a whole $1600.00 more. A little over 100 dollars a month. Big whoop. I'm not rich by far. But it's still worth not having to go through the usual Oregon bs

But you are playing in clubs, run by DOCs, who helped create the whole Oregon mess. You didn't leave them, you just moved with them. Oh, but these same schmucks who helped create the Oregon mess, they won't screw up Oregon's affiliation with ECNL will they? They won't do something stupid to jeapordize playing in that league, will they? They will ONLY look out for the best for the players, the coaches, the families and for girls youth soccer in Oregon. After all, that's what they did in the past, right? Now, I am ready for the response that knock OYSA and/or the Timbers, which will further make my point since it's going to be difficult to defend these jackwads. They helped ruin Oregon youth soccer, but by no means will they do the same thing to any new league they are in. Noooooooooooo.

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But you are playing in clubs, run by DOCs, who helped create the whole Oregon mess. You didn't leave them, you just moved with them. Oh, but these same schmucks who helped create the Oregon mess, they won't screw up Oregon's affiliation with ECNL will they? They won't do something stupid to jeapordize playing in that league, will they? They will ONLY look out for the best for the players, the coaches, the families and for girls youth soccer in Oregon. After all, that's what they did in the past, right? Now, I am ready for the response that knock OYSA and/or the Timbers, which will further make my point since it's going to be difficult to defend these jackwads. They helped ruin Oregon youth soccer, but by no means will they do the same thing to any new league they are in. Noooooooooooo.

Interesting how you said these DOCs who help create the Oregon mess.

Gavin W. and John B. were part of the initial OPL break from OYSA. You should educate yourself take a look at the initial OPL documents.

Gavin W. could care less about OYSA prior to OYSA being a cash stream for the Timbers. GW will go with which ever side that pays the most.

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Interesting how you said these DOCs who help create the Oregon mess.

Gavin W. and John B. were part of the initial OPL break from OYSA. You should educate yourself take a look at the initial OPL documents.

Gavin W. could care less about OYSA prior to OYSA being a cash stream for the Timbers. GW will go with which ever side that pays the most.

Typical response. Please note, GW nor John B. have anything to do with ECNL. And second, please note that TA, FM and the crowd over at FCP had as much to do with the mess as GW or John B. So, the point remains, you are going to bet that FM, TA and the FCP crowd aren't going to mess this ECNL thing up just like they messed up Oregon soccer? ECNL should have mandated that anyone who had anything to do with running OPL should have to step down and new people appointed or no invite. Why did it take TA so long to get accepted? Trust me, ECNL didn't want him involved, but they wanted a spot in Portland. The desire to have a part of the Portland market outweighed their desire to not have him be a part of it.

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Typical response. Please note, GW nor John B. have anything to do with ECNL. And second, please note that TA, FM and the crowd over at FCP had as much to do with the mess as GW or John B. So, the point remains, you are going to bet that FM, TA and the FCP crowd aren't going to mess this ECNL thing up just like they messed up Oregon soccer? ECNL should have mandated that anyone who had anything to do with running OPL should have to step down and new people appointed or no invite. Why did it take TA so long to get accepted? Trust me, ECNL didn't want him involved, but they wanted a spot in Portland. The desire to have a part of the Portland market outweighed their desire to not have him be a part of it.

So why didn't they choose the Timbers for the ECNL club then? Because, as bad as you think the OPL clubs are, the Timbers and their allied clubs are far, far worse.

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So why didn't they choose the Timbers for the ECNL club then? Because, as bad as you think the OPL clubs are, the Timbers and their allied clubs are far, far worse.

Timbers didn't apply. But that's not a part of this discussion. It was awarded to three clubs whose leadership helped to divide and take down Oregon youth soccer. Why should these jamokes be in charge of Portland's participation in a new league? So they can screw that up to? Your allegiances to these guys is pretty strong, have they got you under a spell? Promised you to be manager if you didn't complain about them or question them? Why isn't everyone in ECNL asking themselves this question? Do you really trust these guys to not screw it up? They did before. Your kid wrecks your old car that you give him to drive. So what do you do, you buy him a new car and expect him to be different. Brilliant. Johnny Manziel is promising to grow up, yet since he made that promise he's been involved in two more incidents. People don't change.

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Timbers didn't apply. But that's not a part of this discussion. It was awarded to three clubs whose leadership helped to divide and take down Oregon youth soccer. Why should these jamokes be in charge of Portland's participation in a new league? So they can screw that up to? Your allegiances to these guys is pretty strong, have they got you under a spell? Promised you to be manager if you didn't complain about them or question them? Why isn't everyone in ECNL asking themselves this question? Do you really trust these guys to not screw it up? They did before. Your kid wrecks your old car that you give him to drive. So what do you do, you buy him a new car and expect him to be different. Brilliant. Johnny Manziel is promising to grow up, yet since he made that promise he's been involved in two more incidents. People don't change.

Thorns applied to ECNL and were declined. Fact. Again, as bad as you think the leaders of the OPL clubs are, the leadership of the Timbers and their allied clubs are far, far worse. Fact. Deal with it.

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Thorns applied to ECNL and were declined. Fact. Again, as bad as you think the leaders of the OPL clubs are, the leadership of the Timbers and their allied clubs are far, far worse. Fact. Deal with it.

No they didn't. Nice try to muddy the facts but they didn't. And regardless, Oregon ECNL is being run by some of the buffoons who destroyed Oregon youth soccer. Anyone who thinks ECNL is here to stay in Portland is an idiot. Get new leadership and it stands a chance. I feel like I'm arguing with a five year old. Actually, the maturity levels are similar.

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No they didn't. Nice try to muddy the facts but they didn't. And regardless, Oregon ECNL is being run by some of the buffoons who destroyed Oregon youth soccer. Anyone who thinks ECNL is here to stay in Portland is an idiot. Get new leadership and it stands a chance. I feel like I'm arguing with a five year old. Actually, the maturity levels are similar.

Yes I don't think it will be around very long.