Regionals/Newbie Question

[Unregistered]

But tryouts are in May for U14 & below here so teams change in May & the new team starts practicing & playing in tourneys after tryouts. Do the new players on the team that qualified for regionals not get to go to regionals or even practice with the team? What about players who lose their spot & end up on the B team. Don't they start practicing with the B team & go to tourneys with their new team? Sure does confuse things. Tryouts should be after regionals then! What if the team makes it to Nationals? The new players have to wait until after then to be a part of the team & the exiting/demoted players don't have to play most of the summer with their new teams?

Nobody has to wait. The new team plays in the regionals, unless there is so much change in the roster that they don't have 9 carry-over players from league. If that's the case, they don't go to regionals.

[Unregistered]

Now I know another reason why the turnouts haven't been great for U14 ecnl teams except from their existing teams. Folks don't want to miss regionals. The Ecnl teams need to advertise & offer another tryout AFTER regionals!

[Unregistered]

Nobody has to wait. The new team plays in the regionals, unless there is so much change in the roster that they don't have 9 carry-over players from league. If that's the case, they don't go to regionals.

Thank you! That makes much more sense. If your team is stronger after tryouts, the club should definitely go with the new team (as long as they have at least the 9). This must be the reason the rules allow for only a 9 player continuity. Make that team as strong as you can - all the other states will!

[Unregistered]

Here's the actual USYS rule

Rule 221. TEAM ELIGIBILITY
Section 1. The National Championships competitions shall be open to any team whose players are registered with US Youth Soccer through a State Association if the team is in compliance with all of the following requirements:
(5) A team must demonstrate continuity of rosters between the league and every level of the National Championships competitions by maintaining a minimum of 9 players common to the roster of the team at every level of the competitions.

Section 6. The team must provide its National Championships roster for National Championships competitions as follows:
(1) at the State Association level, prior to the team’s first National Championship game at the State Association level or no earlier than 14 days prior to the beginning of that team’s competition at the State level;
(2) at the regional level, at the time of the team’s registration for the team’s age group
competition at that level that shall be determined by the region which shall be no later
than 7 days prior to the beginning of the team’s competition at the regional level; for the 2012 Regional Championships only, the Regional Cup Chairman may determine to provide additional time if necessary based upon State Cup competitions in the region not being completed in a timely fashion; and
(3) at the national level, at the time of the team’s registration for the team’s age group
competition at that level that shall be determined by the National Championships Committee which shall be no later than 7 days prior to the beginning of that team’s competition at the national level.


In summary, a team can have 3 different rosters: 1 each for State, Regionals, and Nationals and there must be at least 9 players on each roster that were also on the roster used in the qualifying league (OYSA spring league in this case).

[Unregistered]

Here's the actual USYS rule

Rule 221. TEAM ELIGIBILITY
Section 1. The National Championships competitions shall be open to any team whose players are registered with US Youth Soccer through a State Association if the team is in compliance with all of the following requirements:
(5) A team must demonstrate continuity of rosters between the league and every level of the National Championships competitions by maintaining a minimum of 9 players common to the roster of the team at every level of the competitions.

Section 6. The team must provide its National Championships roster for National Championships competitions as follows:
(1) at the State Association level, prior to the team’s first National Championship game at the State Association level or no earlier than 14 days prior to the beginning of that team’s competition at the State level;
(2) at the regional level, at the time of the team’s registration for the team’s age group
competition at that level that shall be determined by the region which shall be no later
than 7 days prior to the beginning of the team’s competition at the regional level; for the 2012 Regional Championships only, the Regional Cup Chairman may determine to provide additional time if necessary based upon State Cup competitions in the region not being completed in a timely fashion; and
(3) at the national level, at the time of the team’s registration for the team’s age group
competition at that level that shall be determined by the National Championships Committee which shall be no later than 7 days prior to the beginning of that team’s competition at the national level.


In summary, a team can have 3 different rosters: 1 each for State, Regionals, and Nationals and there must be at least 9 players on each roster that were also on the roster used in the qualifying league (OYSA spring league in this case).

Now the common sense reality…

At the beginning of State Cup you turn in an official roster, this is notarized, and locks the team roster going forward. This roster is then confirmed and further locked when your team wins State Cup and qualifies to regionals. At regionals you then register and confirm your roster is locked there as well.

I have never heard of a team changing their roster in between levels. You take the team who got you there.

I have to admit though I am past any of the levels with May Tryouts, We have won state cup from u11-u17, but I honestly can't remember the process before u14, because of so much water under the bridge...

[SodiumFan]

Now the common sense reality…

At the beginning of State Cup you turn in an official roster, this is notarized, and locks the team roster going forward. This roster is then confirmed and further locked when your team wins State Cup and qualifies to regionals. At regionals you then register and confirm your roster is locked there as well.

I have never heard of a team changing their roster in between levels. You take the team who got you there.

I have to admit though I am past any of the levels with May Tryouts, We have won state cup from u11-u17, but I honestly can't remember the process before u14, because of so much water under the bridge...

I believe this has been the best explanation. The only weird thing I remember is we brought on a new member of the team and although she practiced with us, she didn't go to regionals and didn't play with us until we returned. You are so right, so much water.......

[Unregistered]

Don't listen to these folks educate yourself here is the link to actual rules

http://regioniv.usyouthsoccer.org/as...%20%28a%29.pdf

PLAYERANDTEAMELIGIBILITY
SECTION 1: All players must be properly registered and rostered in accordance with the rules of US Youth Soccer (Policy on Players and Playing Rules, 104 and 201), US Youth Soccer National Presidents Cup Policy (Rule 302, 303 and 304), and of the State Association.
a) The team must demonstrate continuity of rosters by maintaining a minimum of nine (9) players common to the roster between the State, Region and National competitions: and
b) The winners of the Region IV Presidents Cup must agree to compete at the US Youth Soccer National Presidents Cup.

[Unregistered]

Unless Copa TS players are registered only with OYSA and the FCP players are registered only with US Club. Then Copa TS could roster the FCP player. One of the quirks of having two competing national organization that don't share registration information.

No. They can't.
The player must have been rostered on Copa TS PRIOR to the roster freeze on Monday, April 7th.

Rule:
A team must demonstrate continuity of rosters between the league and every level of the National Championship competitions by maintaining a minimum of 9 players common to the roster of the team at every level of the competition. To add any players to your Regional roster, those players must have been registered to your club by the original State Cup roster freeze date of Monday, April 7th. (This does not apply to U19 teams).

[Unregistered]

Nobody has to wait. The new team plays in the regionals, unless there is so much change in the roster that they don't have 9 carry-over players from league. If that's the case, they don't go to regionals.

The "new team" does not play at regionals - unless all the players on the "new team" were rostered to the club prior to the roster freeze for State Cup in April.

[Unregistered]

Thank you! That makes much more sense. If your team is stronger after tryouts, the club should definitely go with the new team (as long as they have at least the 9). This must be the reason the rules allow for only a 9 player continuity. Make that team as strong as you can - all the other states will!

wrong.

You can not add a player that was rostered with another club - regardless of the OYSA / US Club affiliation.

[Unregistered]

The "new team" does not play at regionals - unless all the players on the "new team" were rostered to the club prior to the roster freeze for State Cup in April.

also this doesn't make any sense…If you have a team that won state cup (they are the top team in the state at that time) why would you change the roster and add new players between state cup and regionals.

The only roster shift we ever saw as far as losing players was if they went to an Elite team/academy. We never had players from our State Cup winning team not make the roster for the next year. We would regularly have new players wanting to join, but they would have to prove themselves deserving of the spot. And they never traveled to Regionals with us. You had to be on the team that earned going to regionals to be on that trip.

If that doesn't make sense to you, then you don't get it, and i can't help you.

[Unregistered]

I remember having 2 play-ups (the older team didn't make regionals) come down and replace two bench warmers for Regionals. Another team brought up a younger star but just added them to the roster. Same club but made the teams stronger. Every team has a couple of weak links they could improve on. Feelings were hurt but it's Regionals after all!

[Unregistered]

Us youth soccer national championships policy 2013-2014

Rule 221. TEAM ELIGIBILITY
Section 1. The National Championships competitions shall be open to any team whose players are registered with US Youth Soccer through a State Association if the team is in compliance with all of the following requirements:
(1) The team must be comprised of properly registered and rostered youth players (as defined by US Youth Soccer).
(2) The team must be in good standing with its State Association and must be in compliance with, and has not violated, any of the bylaws and policies of US Youth Soccer.
(3) The team must be entered in the competition of the State Association in which at least 50 percent of its players are registered.
(4) The team must compete in at least a 4-team approved league during the current seasonal year in its State Association, US Youth Soccer Regional League or US Youth Soccer National League, or with its State Association’s permission in another State Association, except for the U-19 age group for boy’s and girl’s. The league competition must consist of a minimum of one game against each of 3 different teams participating in the league. Whether participation in any amateur league shall qualify a youth team for Championship competition under this policy shall be determined by each State Association.
(5) A team must demonstrate continuity of rosters between the league and every level of the National Championships competitions by maintaining a minimum of 9 players common to the roster of the team at every level of the competitions.

[Unregistered]

http://www.oregonyouthsoccer.org/assets/players/2014_State_Cup_Rules.pdf

(5) Roster Freeze Date
(a) All Oregon State Cup rosters are frozen for state level competition on the roster freeze date set
by OYSA. In 2014 the roster freeze date is midnight on 4/7/2014.
(b) Teams that advance to the regional tournament may modify their rosters for regional
competition, so long as:
(i) There are at least 9 players on the regional tournament roster who were also on the
qualifying league roster, and
(ii) All players on the regional roster meet the transfer limitations in Rule N(4).