What are the chances of any of the ECNL teams being decent?

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Smarter would be to just stay put and beat the ECNL teams without paying 8k.

Yeah right.. you keep telling yourself that.

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Smarter would be to just stay put and beat the ECNL teams without paying 8k.

Smarter is to get away from Studley and Dulai. They'd be better off at Salmon Creek that at WT_FC.

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OYSA is going down the drain on the girls side.

If the pre-tryout kickarounds this week are any indicator, the flow of players is definitely from OYSA to OPL.

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Smarter would be to just stay put and beat the ECNL teams without paying 8k.

There are no TA teams that would even be invited to play against an ECNL team.

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There are no TA teams that would even be invited to play against an ECNL team.

whatever, the point is that they would beat them if they played.

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Smarter is to get away from Studley and Dulai. They'd be better off at Salmon Creek that at WT_FC.

I will give you this. if the FCSC and Wa timbers teams combined they would EASILY be better than the Oregon ECNL teams. They might be better without combining. Washington teams should seriously just avoid Oregon altogether, play RCL. Will get noticed there. If you are good enough, do discovery with Crossfire or Wa Premier.

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whatever, the point is that they would beat them if they played.

Have they played any ECNL teams before? If your so good why don't you get an ECNL bid?? Because your not and you don't have much of a track record.

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I will give you this. if the FCSC and Wa timbers teams combined they would EASILY be better than the Oregon ECNL teams. They might be better without combining. Washington teams should seriously just avoid Oregon altogether, play RCL. Will get noticed there. If you are good enough, do discovery with Crossfire or Wa Premier.

If you are good enough, get your own ECNL bid.

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If you are good enough, get your own ECNL bid.

No need. club team is BETTER than your ECNL team. hopefully you see the inherent problem.

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You just made the point regarding NWCL being a decent reference even stronger.

The title to the thread iswhat are the chances of any of the OR ECNL teams being decent. The original post concluded that several OR teams have a chance to be decent based on their performance in the NWCL (where they have faced ECNL competition in the past). I pointedout that the ECNL teams are not fielding their strongest teams in the NWCL. Therefore, one should be careful about assuming competitiveness in NWCL means competitiveness in ECNL. Competitiveness in NWCL may be a fair barometer of the relative competitiveness of OR teams, but not much of a barometer of competitiveness in ECNL.

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Not true

The title to the thread iswhat are the chances of any of the OR ECNL teams being decent. The original post concluded that several OR teams have a chance to be decent based on their performance in the NWCL (where they have faced ECNL competition in the past). I pointedout that the ECNL teams are not fielding their strongest teams in the NWCL. Therefore, one should be careful about assuming competitiveness in NWCL means competitiveness in ECNL. Competitiveness in NWCL may be a fair barometer of the relative competitiveness of OR teams, but not much of a barometer of competitiveness in ECNL.

I hear this argument all the time and it bothers me on a couple levels. The girls are pretty aware of starters on the WA ECNL teams and according to the oregon players, they seem to think the ECNL teams were at full force during the semi final and final games. So the only reason for coming on here and saying that it wasn't is to just get your jollies off disparaging the efforts and. Accomplishments of the Oregon girls, which I do not see the point of at all. Secondly it always bothers me because it does not make sense that a competitive soccer club and coach would participate under their ECNL team name at the NWCL and not play to win. That is disparaging the Washington teams. So who are trying to support and who are you trying to discourage? Ohhhhh I get it you just like being negative!

Bottom line, the first year OR ECNL teams will likely struggle as they adjust to their new teams, in some cases coaches, and the new competition going into an existing league. They are like the new NBA or MLS expansion teams and may struggle the first year. But I believe they will adjust and with the exception of a few, will do quite well. Why would anyone here wish the Oregon girls failure in the first place?

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I will give you this. if the FCSC and Wa timbers teams combined they would EASILY be better than the Oregon ECNL teams. They might be better without combining. Washington teams should seriously just avoid Oregon altogether, play RCL. Will get noticed there. If you are good enough, do discovery with Crossfire or Wa Premier.

WashT used to be a strong girls club. Now the focus is almost 100% on the boys side and the girls are suffering, with more leaving every year.

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The challenge will be to play faster

As a parent who has watched a full year of ECNL league play, multiple teams at 3 National Showcases and the National playoffs what you notice is how much faster even the weaker teams play than even our best teams.

Crossfire United will be able to put the physical talent on the pitch but the question is can they be coached to play faster and smarter! In ECNL you get two maaaaaybe 3 touches before you are taken on by a very skilled and aggressive defender. To be successful PDX teams will need to move the ball with quick and ACCURATE passes and be smart enough to make passes/runs to space to get any shots on goal.

I'm seriously concerned that FC can find 13 field players for each team with enough speed to be competitive. They currently don't have a team that I am familiar with enough team speed to compete.

Bottom line either both clubs get faster or they will look like cows in a horse race!

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WashT used to be a strong girls club. Now the focus is almost 100% on the boys side and the girls are suffering, with more leaving every year.

not true at all. the girls at Wa Timbers are strong at almost every age group (notice I didn't say every age group I said nearly every age group). they absolutely rival the top few oregon clubs. and they might lose a few top players to ecnl, and that is fine. people just need to decide what they want and go for it. but you are simply incorrect in saying that it is 100% on the boys side. you need to take another look. Go age by age and you will see they are right there with the top oregon clubs.

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As a parent who has watched a full year of ECNL league play, multiple teams at 3 National Showcases and the National playoffs what you notice is how much faster even the weaker teams play than even our best teams.

Crossfire United will be able to put the physical talent on the pitch but the question is can they be coached to play faster and smarter! In ECNL you get two maaaaaybe 3 touches before you are taken on by a very skilled and aggressive defender. To be successful PDX teams will need to move the ball with quick and ACCURATE passes and be smart enough to make passes/runs to space to get any shots on goal.

I'm seriously concerned that FC can find 13 field players for each team with enough speed to be competitive. They currently don't have a team that I am familiar with enough team speed to compete.

Bottom line either both clubs get faster or they will look like cows in a horse race!

That's exactly right, the difference between top teams and average teams is speed of play. However we've played a number of great non-ECNL teams and they played just as fast. They are coached to close quickly onto a player who receives a pass. Trust me, there are a lot of players who are in for a rude awakening when they experience playing top teams for the first time. The touches have to be spot on. The passes played with proper weight. Decisions are made very fast.