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OYSA will not be included in the NWCL after this year. Only OPL, PSPL, Idaho, BC and some RCL clubs. All teams that participate have to be registered with US Club Soccer.

Your reasoning doesn't make sense. Anyone can be registered with US club soccer. RCL is a WYSA league. So why would NWCL allow a WYSA league US youth soccer league, but not allow any OYSA teams to enter.

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Crossfire kills pacific 7-0

I find it amazing that people down here can talk bad about this team being they havent had a challenge from anyone in the area. Now its watch out for the teams up north? I hope this isn't a ***C affiliate do you recall the games you played against this team?

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OYSA will not be included in the NWCL after this year. Only OPL, PSPL, Idaho, BC and some RCL clubs. All teams that participate have to be registered with US Club Soccer.

Washington timbers are in OYSA and will do NWCL this year at almost every gender and age group

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Washington timbers are in OYSA and will do NWCL this year at almost every gender and age group

They are also in RCL so this is a special case.

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They are also in RCL so this is a special case.

That's kind of cool that Washington timbers will always be able to flex and have both sides of the pie. They are smart to dual card all of their players.
They get to do OYSA and a league with the rcl teams.

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Your reasoning doesn't make sense. Anyone can be registered with US club soccer. RCL is a WYSA league. So why would NWCL allow a WYSA league US youth soccer league, but not allow any OYSA teams to enter.

Here's the logic as it's been told to me by a person involved with the PSPL.

The NWCL has always been sanctioned by US Club Soccer. Starting this year it will also be run directly by US Club Soccer as a truly regional league. The plan is to gradually morph this from a 2 weekend tournament into a regional league that could be a replacement for, instead of a supplement to, fall leagues for the top teams in the region.

The PSPL and OPL are US Club Soccer sanctioned leagues. They both openly support the values and mission of US Club Soccer and, in turn, US Club Soccer will ensure that they are represented in NWCL (possibly over-represented) and that they will be allowed to decide which teams represent them in NWCL.

The RCL, while nominally a WYS (US Youth Soccer) league, is in all reality a DoC-run US Club type league operating within the WYS structure. WYS knows that they have to allow the top RCL clubs (Xfire, WPFC, Eastside, SU, etc.) to operate this league without interference or risk losing the league to US Club Soccer. The RCL will soon be divided into "tiers" with the "big clubs" occupying "Tier 1" and the smaller clubs placed in lower tiers. This will ensure that teams from smaller RCL can not move up to compete with the "tier 1" clubs, further reinforcing the monopoly these top clubs have on premier soccer in Washington. At the same time, all of these top clubs dual-register almost all of their teams with US Youth Soccer and US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer would love to pry these clubs away from WYS and are therefore very willing to allow RCL teams to compete in the NWCL.

US Club Soccer has only just started to make inroads into Idaho, with the awarding of an ECNL franchise to FC Nova last year. They also have significant support within the Boise Nationals club. If you look at recent NWCL events, you'll see that the Idaho participants come from these two clubs. Idaho Youth Soccer does not select which teams will participate in NWCL. Those teams are directly invited by NWCL based on these US Club Soccer "affiliations".

As for BC, there are several DoCs at the various BCSPL clubs that are former Canadian National team players and friends / associates of Greg Ion (former Cdn National team player and organizer of NWCL). Allowing BC teams into NWCL also adds a little bit of "international flavor" to the event and makes it easier to market as a true "Northwest" regional league. There are problems because the Canadian clubs use birth year age cutoffs but this is slowly being corrected by US Club Soccer. Most NPLs now use birth year cutoffs for boys teams U15 and up, PSPL included.

The reason that teams from OYSA will not be invited after this year is two-fold: 1) OYSA has always been vehemently anti-US Club Soccer, and still is. 2) US Club Soccer wants to support the OPL to ensure it's offerings improve and continue to be a competitive alternative to the OYSA. OYSA has the ability to place its teams in the Far West Regional League if it wishes while OPL clubs have not been given that option.

In summary, US Club Soccer is growing very rapidly in the NW and is looking to support it's leagues (PSPL and OPL) and leagues/clubs that it would like to get into it's fold (RCL tier 1, FC Nova, Boise Nationals). They now sanction over half of the clubs in Washington, including all but 2 clubs in Eastern Washington. They are also growing quickly in western Washington as non-RCL Puget Sound clubs realize that they can get better competition in the PSPL than they can in WYS district leagues. Obviously, US Club Soccer has lost about half of Oregon over the last year but they are determined to maintain what they have and work to pull back as many clubs as possible from OYSA (likely not including TA clubs of course). Allowing OYSA teams to participate in NWCL would undermine their efforts and the efforts of the remaining OPL clubs in Oregon and therefore will not happen.

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That's kind of cool that Washington timbers will always be able to flex and have both sides of the pie. They are smart to dual card all of their players.
They get to do OYSA and a league with the rcl teams.

My guess is that the TA will leverage Washington Timber's membership in the RCL to place "TA" teams in the NWCL, with players from several different TA clubs, instead of pure WashT teams.

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Here's the logic as it's been told to me by a person involved with the PSPL.

The NWCL has always been sanctioned by US Club Soccer. Starting this year it will also be run directly by US Club Soccer as a truly regional league. The plan is to gradually morph this from a 2 weekend tournament into a regional league that could be a replacement for, instead of a supplement to, fall leagues for the top teams in the region.

The PSPL and OPL are US Club Soccer sanctioned leagues. They both openly support the values and mission of US Club Soccer and, in turn, US Club Soccer will ensure that they are represented in NWCL (possibly over-represented) and that they will be allowed to decide which teams represent them in NWCL.

The RCL, while nominally a WYS (US Youth Soccer) league, is in all reality a DoC-run US Club type league operating within the WYS structure. WYS knows that they have to allow the top RCL clubs (Xfire, WPFC, Eastside, SU, etc.) to operate this league without interference or risk losing the league to US Club Soccer. The RCL will soon be divided into "tiers" with the "big clubs" occupying "Tier 1" and the smaller clubs placed in lower tiers. This will ensure that teams from smaller RCL can not move up to compete with the "tier 1" clubs, further reinforcing the monopoly these top clubs have on premier soccer in Washington. At the same time, all of these top clubs dual-register almost all of their teams with US Youth Soccer and US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer would love to pry these clubs away from WYS and are therefore very willing to allow RCL teams to compete in the NWCL.

US Club Soccer has only just started to make inroads into Idaho, with the awarding of an ECNL franchise to FC Nova last year. They also have significant support within the Boise Nationals club. If you look at recent NWCL events, you'll see that the Idaho participants come from these two clubs. Idaho Youth Soccer does not select which teams will participate in NWCL. Those teams are directly invited by NWCL based on these US Club Soccer "affiliations".

As for BC, there are several DoCs at the various BCSPL clubs that are former Canadian National team players and friends / associates of Greg Ion (former Cdn National team player and organizer of NWCL). Allowing BC teams into NWCL also adds a little bit of "international flavor" to the event and makes it easier to market as a true "Northwest" regional league. There are problems because the Canadian clubs use birth year age cutoffs but this is slowly being corrected by US Club Soccer. Most NPLs now use birth year cutoffs for boys teams U15 and up, PSPL included.

The reason that teams from OYSA will not be invited after this year is two-fold: 1) OYSA has always been vehemently anti-US Club Soccer, and still is. 2) US Club Soccer wants to support the OPL to ensure it's offerings improve and continue to be a competitive alternative to the OYSA. OYSA has the ability to place its teams in the Far West Regional League if it wishes while OPL clubs have not been given that option.

In summary, US Club Soccer is growing very rapidly in the NW and is looking to support it's leagues (PSPL and OPL) and leagues/clubs that it would like to get into it's fold (RCL tier 1, FC Nova, Boise Nationals). They now sanction over half of the clubs in Washington, including all but 2 clubs in Eastern Washington. They are also growing quickly in western Washington as non-RCL Puget Sound clubs realize that they can get better competition in the PSPL than they can in WYS district leagues. Obviously, US Club Soccer has lost about half of Oregon over the last year but they are determined to maintain what they have and work to pull back as many clubs as possible from OYSA (likely not including TA clubs of course). Allowing OYSA teams to participate in NWCL would undermine their efforts and the efforts of the remaining OPL clubs in Oregon and therefore will not happen.

That was very in depth. the funny thing is we all hear different things. I was told this specifically when asking the question about NWCL future: 2 spots will go to OPL and 2 spots will go to OYSA. In the end the most important piece of NWCL is keeping the RCL teams happy which is the most important piece to NWCL because that is the most quality. They want the best teams even if that means combining both OYSA and OPL. But hey we all keep hearing different things, and one thing I have learned is trust nothing until its a done deal.

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They will win the NWCL spot.

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So pacific FC is a one team club?
Do they have any other teams that are of any quality?
What are the boys side looking like at u10?

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Pacific has a handful of pretty good teams, it's hit or miss depending on the age. I believe they have 1 upcoming U10 team that's supposed to be fairly strong with good coach and trainer, but I'm not that plugged into that age group so maybe someone else can answer better.

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Pacific has a handful of pretty good teams, it's hit or miss depending on the age. I believe they have 1 upcoming U10 team that's supposed to be fairly strong with good coach and trainer, but I'm not that plugged into that age group so maybe someone else can answer better.

They have one girls team at u10 soon to be u11. Nothing coming up in the pipeline. Same with the boys side. They have two u10 boys team. One team has a nice coach that knows a little bit about the game the other has 7 coaches that scream all game long from all four corners of the field, it is quite comical.
All in all every one of those kids are falling behind the curve. But it is cheaper :)

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They have one girls team at u10 soon to be u11. Nothing coming up in the pipeline. Same with the boys side. They have two u10 boys team. One team has a nice coach that knows a little bit about the game the other has 7 coaches that scream all game long from all four corners of the field, it is quite comical.
All in all every one of those kids are falling behind the curve. But it is cheaper :)

Agree, you will see these girls fall behind too. Pretty easy to place girls in a position and tell them to pass it up. They are developing a player for a position not developing a player to play more then that but, it's about the wins not about player development.

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They have one girls team at u10 soon to be u11. Nothing coming up in the pipeline. Same with the boys side. They have two u10 boys team. One team has a nice coach that knows a little bit about the game the other has 7 coaches that scream all game long from all four corners of the field, it is quite comical.
All in all every one of those kids are falling behind the curve. But it is cheaper :)

Lol
I've seen those boys coaches also. Loud and giving instructions like they are playing a video game . Hilarious to have 6 coaches all with different ideas

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Lol
I've seen those boys coaches also. Loud and giving instructions like they are playing a video game . Hilarious to have 6 coaches all with different ideas

Or, more accurately, 6 coaches with NO ideas...