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Weird when you talk with good plsyers and their parents, everyone knows ODP but id2 and pdp gets a huh? And some head scratches. Go figure.

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OPL released an announcement last year two weeks before the camp as well as the players club. 4 players last year were from TA clubs and 1 from FC. Strange that nothing's up yet....maybe no one got invited?

Nobody from our team got invited. Two were invited last year. I think they might have passed the target age.

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Is it worth doing? Yes. It's free. It's a higher level of play than club so it can challenge the player. The player is "on the radar" for potential higher levels of competition. I don't see a downside to it. Just brush off the negative comments you see and have your player do this.

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Is it worth doing? Yes. It's free. It's a higher level of play than club so it can challenge the player. The player is "on the radar" for potential higher levels of competition. I don't see a downside to it. Just brush off the negative comments you see and have your player do this.

Practice is muscle memory based on repetition. When you are train just one or two weekends a year, it's doubtful that much of anything is retained more then a couple weeks later. The advantage to ODP is it is a longer period of training at a higher level of play and more frequently.

Not knocking the ID2 program, but dont think it's gonna make your lil kiddo the next superstar from that one session. Free is a very good thing. Not to mention, if you are invited to participate, it's something that can never be taken away from your players soccer resume.

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Practice is muscle memory based on repetition. When you are train just one or two weekends a year, it's doubtful that much of anything is retained more then a couple weeks later. The advantage to ODP is it is a longer period of training at a higher level of play and more frequently.

Not knocking the ID2 program, but dont think it's gonna make your lil kiddo the next superstar from that one session. Free is a very good thing. Not to mention, if you are invited to participate, it's something that can never be taken away from your players soccer resume.

Agree. ID2 and ODP are apples and oranges. ID2 is an identification program - Go, enjoy it, and show your stuff over a weekend once or maybe twice/year. It is not an ongoing program like ODP. Both have their pros and cons, but the are entirely different types of programs. There also is nothing to preclude a player from doing both (assuming your club cooperates).

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Agree. ID2 and ODP are apples and oranges. ID2 is an identification program - Go, enjoy it, and show your stuff over a weekend once or maybe twice/year. It is not an ongoing program like ODP. Both have their pros and cons, but the are entirely different types of programs. There also is nothing to preclude a player from doing both (assuming your club cooperates).

I agree, but I think ODP is being a little oversold. The training sessions I observed were static with a lot of standing around. The games were fine.

The important takeaway is that either id2 or ODP is another opportunity to play, and to learn something by playing with and against good players. There isn't a downside to either except ODP is in my opinion expensive for what players can get out of it. It doesn't have the benefit it did in the pre Development Academy and ENCL days.

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I agree, but I think ODP is being a little oversold. The training sessions I observed were static with a lot of standing around. The games were fine.

The important takeaway is that either id2 or ODP is another opportunity to play, and to learn something by playing with and against good players. There isn't a downside to either except ODP is in my opinion expensive for what players can get out of it. It doesn't have the benefit it did in the pre Development Academy and ENCL days.

I think that for those players young enough to participate in the tryouts and RTCs is a great thing. I dont know what it costs today to go that far, but if I recall peps saying it was just a few hundred for like 8 sessions and a weekend tourney.

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Weird when you talk with good plsyers and their parents, everyone knows ODP but id2 and pdp gets a huh? And some head scratches. Go figure.

That probably has to do with the fact that ID2 only covers one age group and has a limited invite list. I think last year there were 5 boys and 3 (or 4) girls from Oregon. How many kids participated in ODP last year. I would say over 500 kids. That is about 2% of ODP soccer players.

The choice of participating in ID2 is not really an option for most Oregon soccer families.

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I think that for those players young enough to participate in the tryouts and RTCs is a great thing. I dont know what it costs today to go that far, but if I recall peps saying it was just a few hundred for like 8 sessions and a weekend tourney.

20 sessions

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20 sessions

for how much ?? what was the total cost including the kit (you probably had to buy), not including any travel expenses for training. Just tuition and kit.

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Id2 is not always the best players. I have seen some kids attend id2 because their club coach pushed and helped them get it but were then cut from ODP regional championship roster. I actually think ODP / pre academy is the way to go if you are male. If you are female it's a crap shoot.

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Id2 is not always the best players. I have seen some kids attend id2 because their club coach pushed and helped them get it but were then cut from ODP regional championship roster. I actually think ODP / pre academy is the way to go if you are male. If you are female it's a crap shoot.

Sorry your son did not make ID2.

Last year ID2 took the best players on both the male and female side.

I am not sure who is invited this year, but the invites last year deserved to go.

The same can be said about ODP regional pool roster. I have heard plenty about players who made it because a coach pushed them thru. I am hoping this is not the case, but the same accusations have been made about ODP.

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Id2 is not always the best players. I have seen some kids attend id2 because their club coach pushed and helped them get it but were then cut from ODP regional championship roster. I actually think ODP / pre academy is the way to go if you are male. If you are female it's a crap shoot.

Every thread about a special invite camp will include someone posting something about how there are more deserving players. The person should just be honest and say that they think their son or daughter is better, but did not get invited. It must be politics then!

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Sorry your son did not make ID2.

Last year ID2 took the best players on both the male and female side.

I am not sure who is invited this year, but the invites last year deserved to go.

The same can be said about ODP regional pool roster. I have heard plenty about players who made it because a coach pushed them thru. I am hoping this is not the case, but the same accusations have been made about ODP.

There is not a chance that the best players were taken on the boys side for id2. Sorry that's complete bs. The best players are doing ODP / pre academy. Id2 players are taken when club coaches push it. If they don't push, they don't get picked up. ODP has more open market try out. Is it perfect? No. But better on the boys side. Girls impossible to say as talent is spread all over the place between id2 ODP and ECNL.

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There is not a chance that the best players were taken on the boys side for id2. Sorry that's complete bs. The best players are doing ODP / pre academy. Id2 players are taken when club coaches push it. If they don't push, they don't get picked up. ODP has more open market try out. Is it perfect? No. But better on the boys side. Girls impossible to say as talent is spread all over the place between id2 ODP and ECNL.

Less than 5 boys made it last year. I guess you are the expert talent scout in the area. I thought all of the boys invited last year deserved to go. I think they all are doing ODP as well. Also Timbers Pre Academy is U15 and U16. ID2 on the boy's side is U13. Maybe your son did not get invited because he is too old?