Lopsided split? Not really.

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And if you include all the rec players the TA clubs have, then it's probably 95/5 split. But what does it matter? Everything after the top 2 teams per club are not really "premier" anyways, and even that is a stretch for many B teams.

agreed......but, that means more income revenues which means that OYSA will make it. Although I think OPL will become solvent and will make it as a 2nd or 3rd tiered league

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If you look at the NPL and Premier divisions from U11-U14 from the fall league they are 70-75% teams who have backed OYSA.

duh. OYSA will be the true Premier League in a couple of years if not already at most agegroups

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Our teams from U11-U14 here at FCPDX will be doing OYSA starting in the spring....the rest of our club will make the move in the fall of 2014. The banter back and forth is comical. I really don't care who runs the league and I am happy that my club is making the move to OYSA - who cares, let's all re unite and grow the entire state together like Washington.

You don't know what you are saying. Way to just throw that out there.

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it's not happening right away...but by fall 2014 all FCPDX will move to OYSA
It was too much to try and do it for Winter.....lots to do for registrar.....I think it's a smart move and better for their members

Sounds like a logical move... Especially since most of their registration (except high school) is sept-sept...

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Split

It looks like the split is 2 OYSA and 3 OPL

OYSA
WS
ES

OPL
Crossfire
FC Portland
THUSC

The rest of the team are just filler to beat up on. Just the way it is.

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It looks like the split is 2 OYSA and 3 OPL

OYSA
WS
ES

OPL
Crossfire
FC Portland
THUSC

The rest of the team are just filler to beat up on. Just the way it is.

You need to throw ***C into the OYSA list also, although kids have been leaving that club in droves this year.

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not we don't

kids have been leaving Columbia River WSA for years. Until they get some fields and coaches they will just keep leaving.

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By the Numbers

It looks like the split is 2 OYSA and 3 OPL

OYSA
WS
ES

OPL
Crossfire
FC Portland
THUSC

The rest of the team are just filler to beat up on. Just the way it is.

Since 2011 OPL State Cups Won (we can all agree OYSA State Cup was a complete joke since 2011)

Clubs winning a State Cup that are now OYSA 22
Clubs winning a State Cup that are now OPL 24

Teams outside WT, ET, FC Portland, THUSC, Crossfire 4

Clearly the split is 2 OYSA 3 OPL the rest of the states soccer is rec.

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You need to throw ***C into the OYSA list also, although kids have been leaving that club in droves this year.

The club has lost around a dozen players....4 of which went ECNL
Not bad when you have 1500 advanced comp players

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Since 2011 OPL State Cups Won (we can all agree OYSA State Cup was a complete joke since 2011)

Clubs winning a State Cup that are now OYSA 22
Clubs winning a State Cup that are now OPL 24

Teams outside WT, ET, FC Portland, THUSC, Crossfire 4

Clearly the split is 2 OYSA 3 OPL the rest of the states soccer is rec.

As another poster said "sure tell yourself that…" If you look at results outside of Oregon the only ones who think US Club amounts to anything are the folks at THUSC. No-one else brags of US Club regional accomplishments.

On the other hand USYS there are multiple clubs who have performed at regionals, and nationals. Clearly the split has more to do with boys and girls teams. The boys teams with OYSA will be far stronger than at OPL. The girls teams will be stronger at OPL. Whichever gender your child so flies the flag of your allegiance. You can try to pretend it means more than that, but really?

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oh please

US Youth Regional/Nationals and US Cub Regionals/Nationals are most certainly the B league champs. The US DA and ENCL are the premier in that category.

Why base your clubs placement on US Youth Regional. You can go back 5 years ago and listen to the now TA reasons why.

Also other than one FC Portland team eons ago, WSM Internationals, and Eastside United Liverpool, Oregon has not had a great track record at regionals.

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The club has lost around a dozen players....4 of which went ECNL
Not bad when you have 1500 advanced comp players

Sure, if you want to call the 1000 rec players on your "Tier 3 and 4" teams that you call "advanced comp".

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I'm not sure where you are getting your list but I have kids playing at two different clubs and we are not doing OPL.....I'm not sure if you've included us above. MY DD's coach at Pacific said that the entire club was going OYSA and I'm pretty sure my other DD's team at FCSC is going OYSA. FCSC and Pacific are all going OYSA. I really don't care about the argument that people are making and I'm happy with where my two clubs are going

I was unaware FCSC even had high school teams. Won't be missed in the OPL.

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The real question is WHY split at all?

Let's take an honest look at the OYSA/OPL split.

Clubs and Teams registered for OYSA Winter league:

1. Eastside Timbers (5 boys teams / 4 girls teams)
2. Westside Timbers (7 boys teams / 6 girls teams)
3. Washington Timbers (0 boys teams / 11 girls teams)
4. Bend FC Timbers (2 boys teams / 2 girls teams)
5. Rogue Valley Timbers (3 boys teams / 2 girls teams)
6. Capital FC Timbers (5 boys teams / 3 girls teams)
7. Eugene Timbers (5 boys teams / 4 girls teams)
8. BSC Portland (4 boys teams / 5 girls teams)
9. PCU (8 boys teams / 7 girls teams)
10. Woodburn Athletic (2 boys teams / 0 girls teams)
11. Grants Pass SC (2 boys teams / 0 girls teams)
12. FC Salmon Creek (0 boys teams / 3 girls teams)
13. United SA (2 boys teams / 2 girls teams)
14. Volcano Blue (0 boys teams / 1 girls teams)
15. Southern Oregon SA (0 boys teams / 1 girls teams)
16. La Amistad SC (3 boys teams / 0 girls teams)
17. Pelada Futbol Academy (1 boys teams / 0 girls teams)
18. Milwaukie SC (1 boys teams / 0 girls teams)
TOTALS: 50 boys teams / 51 girls teams (101 teams)

Clubs and Teams registered with OPL for Winter:

1. FC Portland (6 boys teams / 7 girls teams)
2. THUSC (2 boys teams / 7 girls teams)
3. Crossfire OR (10 boys teams / 10 girls teams)
4. FC Salmon Creek (0 boys teams / 2 girls teams)
5. Pacific FC (0 boys teams / 6 girls teams)
6. Hillsboro SC (3 boys teams / 3 girls teams)
7. TFA Barcelona OR (3 boys teams / 1 girls team)
8. THELO (5 boys teams / 1 girls teams)
9. Azul FC (1 boys teams / 0 girls teams)
10. FC West (1 boys teams / 1 girls teams)
11. Valley FC (2 boys teams / 0 girls teams)
12. Corvallis United (0 boys teams / 2 girls teams)
13. Canby United (0 boys teams / 1 girls teams)
14. SO Samba SC (1 boys teams / 0 girls teams)
15. Albany FC (1 boys team / 0 girls teams)
TOTALS: 35 boys teams / 41 girls teams (76 teams)

Which means that the state is so far split 57% toward OYSA and 43% toward OPL. Not nearly the 70% in favor of OYSA as some people love to say.

Had BSC kept their Winter teams with OPL as they originally said they would it would be much closer to 50/50.

By looking at it, the OYSA teams will be traveling A LOT. Either that or the divisions will be regionalized and therefore even more watered down. This could end up with players moving to OPL clubs after this season. However, OPL will be dominated by the 3 bigger clubs; THUSC, FC Portland, and Crossfire Oregon.

The ratio is not important the important thing is that there is a split at all.

I would also point out that the ratio on the boys side is closer to 70% and the vast majority of the top boys teams are in the OYSA league. For the 100th time this will draw the better boys OUT of OPL clubs and there is no way for them to survive "as is" with lower player counts.

The OPL clubs are in the initial stages of suicide but they don't realize that the cool aide they are drinking is POISON!

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As another poster said "sure tell yourself that…" If you look at results outside of Oregon the only ones who think US Club amounts to anything are the folks at THUSC. No-one else brags of US Club regional accomplishments.

On the other hand USYS there are multiple clubs who have performed at regionals, and nationals. Clearly the split has more to do with boys and girls teams. The boys teams with OYSA will be far stronger than at OPL. The girls teams will be stronger at OPL. Whichever gender your child so flies the flag of your allegiance. You can try to pretend it means more than that, but really?

On the girls side none of the top teams are playing USYS. Look in our own backyard, Eastside WA wins national championship and they are the 3rd or 4th beat team in their own State