Wa Timbers may be a winner in all of this. If the OYSA / OPC split reduces both sides to slim competition, at least Wa Timbers have the RCL as alternative. I would consider that as an option if this gets too ridiculous. They have a solid girls snf solid boys program. I know this: I do not want to play the same teams over and over. That's just silly, and quite frankly, not very fun. Half the games in SW Wa, half the games in Seattle... a bit of a pain but at least a ton of interesting and challenging games. For the serious soccer player, completely do-able.
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Agree. OPC showed its weakness when it ignored the fundamental fairness rule that soccer leagues offer home and away to participating teams. Making Rogue Valley, Eugene, Bend, etc families travel to Portland more than OPC teams was wrong. When these clubs argued for equal treatment, the OPL DOC's did nothing. GW was part of the OPC leadership but so was FM, TA, JR, and a whole group of self-serving Portland DOC's with $$$ guiding their decisions.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I agree. This is a better option than even the two groups together.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Isnt that the Irony of it? The dudes leaving the OPL were catalyst of the OYSA break up.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
I am not sure I get the point here. The TA is not leaving the OPC to help those clubs that were traveling alot and to say they are is disingenuous. The new Alliance will no doubt help those clubs however, as I am sure one of the promises given to join the alliance was less travel to them.
I am perfectly fine with no games in Medford.Comment
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I completely agree. If the TA want's to travel to be it. If I'm paying for my DD to travel I don't want her to play Medford. Seattle or nor cal bound.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Nope. Incorrect. RCL games are all in the Seattle area. WA Timbers teams who play in that league have to make the drive north every weekend. Sounds like the OPL- if you want to play where 90% of the good soccer is, then you come to us. I have no problem with that.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Foxes Guarding the Hen House
Until the Member boards take control of the OPL they will continue to flounder as the built in conflicts of interest will inhibit any growth or improvement in operations. The first step is to remove the DOC's from the Board and replace them with board members of the affiliated clubs. The next step is to hire an executive director.
Only then will the old boyz club attitude be replaced with a professional approach to running an organization.
And no I'm not now or have I even been affiliated with OYSA or even a friend of an OYSA employee or board member. I just know that when you staff an organization with amateurs you get amateur results.Comment
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? The league was good. NWCL was a step i the right direction. The only thing this year that has been an epic failure is ODP which is run by who????? How will it be different or better? Where is the OPC failing ?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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And didn't the OPL just host a training camp for top players in the NW down in Medford? At no cost to the players?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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And there is that......Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
So how will the fields at THPRD be divided? The Alliance? THUSC?Comment
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If the Timber's Alliance takes over, they will not have competition to keep their prices low. Already OYSA costs $2-$3 a player more than US Club per year. Another $2 is robbery.
Teams in Seattle pay $2500 to play soccer for a year. If GW and the TA take over, that is what our premier teams will be paying, too.Comment
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What are you talking about? When we play RCL (which you never have) half the games are at home, the other half in Seattle. And usually, we can work it out with Seattle Club team managers to knock out 2 or 3 league games in one weekend, making maybe 2 to 3 Seattle trips in the Fall season. It works out great and those weekends to Seattle are a blast. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Plus, carpooling is always an option.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
With OYSA and OPL separating the competition, Oregon is left WAY behind compared to the RCL. Please don't speak on topics that you have no idea. Thx.Comment
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This discussion isn't about proprietary software created by Bill Gates and Microsoft and your choice as a consumer to select a Windows based computer or opt instead for an Apple based computer. As we all know, this can be a tough decision each of us as consumers, realizing that millions if not billions of dollars have gone into the development of these products just to bring them to market for us to enjoy.
This discussion is about your choice of which club to play for in Oregon?
Which club/team does my youngster join. Yup that's it.
You have no say in what league your child plays, the club decides for you. You just have the ability to select a club and hope it's a good fit.
Do you really care about the trickle down effect of your registration dollars subsidizing a for profit MLS team based in Portland that is handicapped by their membership in MLS a socialist sports business model that doesn't allow them (Portland) to even pay their own players or even make a cent of the MLS national tv contracts and the worst they cannot even see the full net of their own attendance gate as a portion must go to the MLS?
GW is forced to think outside of the box for revenue as the structure of the MLS single entity model basically turns what should be a landslide fiscal winner (portland) into another generic break even team in the MLS...
A socialist economic system consists of a system of production and distribution organised to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services are produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital. Accounting is based on physical quantities, a common physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labour-time in place of financial calculation.Distribution is based on the principle to each according to his contribution. Marxist theory holds that the development of the socialist mode of production will give rise to a communist society, in which classes and the state are no longer present, there is access abundance to final goods, and thus distribution is based on to each according to his need.
Ever wonder why their are no LA Lakers, Miami Heat, NY Yankees, Dallas Cowboys, Boston Celtics type of epic franchises in the MLS?? Simple the ridiculous parity in the MLS evidences itself in the state of no excellent teams, everyone has the same access to the 2nd level soccer pros from abroad and the nearly best americans available. It's a splendor of mediocrity.
GW is still itching to be a capitalist, which is understandable since his boss MP has a Harvard MBA and MP's Dad was a bigwig at goldman sachs and the secretary of the treasury for the USA.
Problem is GW isn't american---he hasn't figured out that for profit companies in the U.S., even ones in a socialist archetype embedded by the MLS don't have the right to take over the operations of Non-Profit...
Unless you live in PORTLANDIA BABY!!Comment
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