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I totally agree with this. I did not make it to college basketball by going through an academy or program or etc... but by hard work where I was at. I really don't understand why soccer tries to structure funnels and alliances and all. I'll let my dk participate in it all however they want, but I am not going to force them into the soccer structure in hoped that they'll "make it".

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Not apples to apples

I totally agree with this. I did not make it to college basketball by going through an academy or program or etc... but by hard work where I was at. I really don't understand why soccer tries to structure funnels and alliances and all. I'll let my dk participate in it all however they want, but I am not going to force them into the soccer structure in hoped that they'll "make it".

HS Basketball players have a far better chance of making it to college by not playing in an academy program, fact is their is actually competition in HS basketball that can be an indicator of what you can do at the next level.

Unfortunately HS Soccer is such a poor standard of play college coaches cannot make any qualified judgement about potential recruits with HS play--if they did they would be risking their jobs based on recreational soccer performance

Instead they have the USSF helping them out with the Development Academy level of Soccer all across the country, this gives the a chance to watch the best of the best each week. Nice huh..they may slum to watch a club game..but fewer and fewer are electing to even do that. It's all Academy, much like the days of past when it was all ODP.

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I totally agree with this. I did not make it to college basketball by going through an academy or program or etc... but by hard work where I was at. I really don't understand why soccer tries to structure funnels and alliances and all. I'll let my dk participate in it all however they want, but I am not going to force them into the soccer structure in hoped that they'll "make it".

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Massive

Just a massive tryout yesterday at the Timbers DA. It seems like every 95,96,97,98 and a few 99's was there trying to get one of these spots. Good luck today guys.

Very impressive showing, it just shows that while a few people on this board complain most players want to play for AS and MS and there parents think they are great role modles. It also shows most people believe this is the path to college soccer or even better the pros.

Club soccer it still a good option but really just for fun and the D3 player.

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Fair point

Of these 20, how many were from the WS Galacticos team? It is my understanding they comprised most of the U16 team. It is a slightly different perspective to consider it as largely one team, perhaps they are not as dominant as the poster seems to imply.

After the u15/u16 year when you lose the only player in Oregon history to be named Captain of the US youth National team and sign with a professional team in the Dutch Eredivisie that one team perhaps isn't as dominant as they once were. Kinda of like the NBA Bulls losing Micheal Jordan--different team still very good, but not NBA Champion good.

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Understand

Just a massive tryout yesterday at the Timbers DA. It seems like every 95,96,97,98 and a few 99's was there trying to get one of these spots. Good luck today guys.

Very impressive showing, it just shows that while a few people on this board complain most players want to play for AS and MS and there parents think they are great role modles. It also shows most people believe this is the path to college soccer or even better the pros.

Club soccer it still a good option but really just for fun and the D3 player.

Not a single player trying out for the Academy teams 'want' to play for Adam Smith or Mike Smith, no parent has ever remarked about them being 'great' role models.

MY KID WANTS TO PLAY FOR THE PORTLAND TIMBERS & PLAY AGAINST THE BEST YOUTH IN USA. END OF STORY.

They could of named Gavin Wilkinson an academy coach, we would still tryout.

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Club soccer it still a good option but really just for fun and the D3 player.[/QUOTE]

Hahahahahahahaha! We'll see.

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You better pull off your shoes and socks and count again. FC Portland had the most kids placed in the DA.

You must have gone through the "new math" program in school which had catastrophic results for many.

Anyhow, you must mean that FC Portland's Smiths were responsible for "placing"their FC players in the DA? Doesn't add up.

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I just love it when the Portland geniuses show there lack of knowledge...I have added the out of Portland team names for the sake of balance. It is interesting to note setting aside the Galacticos players at U16 (I believe their coach was the primary selector at the try outs?) The picture is much more balanced. In fact at u18 you have 6 WS players, 5 Cascade FC, AND 4 FC Portland.

Just had to pierce this bubble of WSM greatness that seems to be filling the room...

21 WSMetros players placed with USSDA Portland Timbers 2012-2013.
4 FC Portland players placed with USSDA Portland Timbers 2012-2013

Team Roster U16

(15) WS Metros Players placed with the timbers D.A----(0) FC Portland

01. Baez, Reid Salem Cascade FC
02. Chimento, Davis Southside
03. De Vera, Niko WSMetros
04. Diaz-Gutierrez, Dagoberto NWSSA
05. Garcia, Damian WSMetros
06. Garcia- Aguilar, Jesse WSMetros
'07. Hassan, Issa Eastside
08. Hermosillo, Octavio Eastside
09. Hernandez, Alan Southside?
10. Holstein, Toby ????
11. Kempf, Jacob Seattle Sounders Acadmey
12. Kernion, Austin WS Metros
13. Kilmer, Elijah Bend Oregon Rush
14. Martin, Joseph Bend Oregon Rush
15. Martinez, Edson Salem Oregon Cascade FC
16. Morgan, Kojiro WS Metros
17. Palodichuk, Matt WS Metros
18. Porreco, Antonio WS Metros
19. Prescott, Peter WS Metros
20. Riemhofer, Logan Bend Oregon Oregon Rush
21. Seech, Jordan WS Metros
22. Segovia, Alejandro WS Metros
23. Strever, Isaac WS Metros
24. Velazquez, Rolando WS Metros
25. Brandon Faro WS Metros
26. White, Benjamin WS Metros

Team Roster U18

(6) WS Metros Players placed with the timbers D.A----(4) FC Portland

01. Cawley, Lucas Utah
02. Chesnutt, Cameron F.C. PDX/BSC
03. Desir, Christian Florida via Haiti
04. Duenas, Francisco Salem Cascade FC
05. Esparza, Enrique WS Metros
06. Gonzalez, Gustavo WS Metros
07. Michealson, Christo WS Metros
08. Gonzalez, Antony Salem Cascade FC
09. Mack, David WS Metros
10. Kleweno, Spencer FC PDX/PCU
11. Langsdorf, Foster FC PDX/VUSA
12. Macchione, Anthony WS Metros
13. Martinez, Hector Salem Cascade FC
14. McGuire, Kenton WS Metros
15. Morfin, Abdiel Eastside
16. North, Mitch Medford
17. Nosack, James Seattle Sounders
18. Ortiz, Jose Salem Cascade FC
19. Partee, Collin ?????
20. Street, Cody FC PDX/SSC
21. Werner, Sam Montana
22. Wutte, Stefan Salem Cascade FC
23. Chuy C. Azul/FC Pdx/WS Metros

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Yeah. Don't count Galacticos players because they only made it because of favoritism. They really didn't have any good players that deserved to be on the team. Eastside didn't have any favoritism from Underwood; just the Galacticos. I know, lets look at regional champions over the past 10 years to see who produces the best teams, but don't count Cal South because the refs always favor them.

Puh leeez

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Yeah. Don't count Galacticos players because they only made it because of favoritism. They really didn't have any good players that deserved to be on the team. Eastside didn't have any favoritism from Underwood; just the Galacticos. I know, lets look at regional champions over the past 10 years to see who produces the best teams, but don't count Cal South because the refs always favor them.

Puh leeez

If there was bias it was primarily in favor of those who were established ODP participants. There weren't any Galacticos on the U18 team. Several tried out, but only Michaelson was selected and he never joined. He was a long time ODP guy. The Galacticos players selected for the U16 team were all long time Oregon ODP participants with the exception of one. Their former coach assisted the 18s not the 16s so it doesn't look like he favored his former players at all since none of them were on the team.

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Dummy

JB was part of the overall selection process as was the entire staff

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?

Did the kids that only played 7 league games come back out. Do we know if the Timbers are going to take smaller rosters. Really if only one is several hundreds will be the next pro why take kids that will ride the bleachers. They are not playing that many games to have to worry about injuries.

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JB was part of the overall selection process as was the entire staff

Other than the fact that the tryouts didn't work that way. He was focused on the 18s and that's who he watched. Or at least that's what he said. Maybe he was making it up or maybe you know everything. I think I will go with what he did and said before, during and after the process.

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Wow, look at the defensiveness...

Apparently that comment must have hit a sore spot...Take a deep breath...Relax...Count to Twenty...Relax. Sometimes when things hit to close to home it stings.

Yeah. Don't count Galacticos players because they only made it because of favoritism. They really didn't have any good players that deserved to be on the team. Eastside didn't have any favoritism from Underwood; just the Galacticos. I know, lets look at regional champions over the past 10 years to see who produces the best teams, but don't count Cal South because the refs always favor them.

Puh leeez