Timbers Academy

[Unregistered]

So what?

WSM has produced more Division I Collegiate soccer players over the last 5 to 10 years than all the other clubs combined. That's what I meant.

You are correct WSM did not produce more college level players community college, NAIA, Division III and Division II players than all other clubs in oregon. Sorry.

So is the point you are running your child through a meat grinder so they can be turned into some product and sold to a D1 school. Everyone should line up like sheep to have the same done to them, and if they don't they don't match up?

Sorry, but that is a pretty myopic view, and to have a kid that pigeonholed by 16 or 18, is actually pretty sad for them. The reason it has gotten this way is we as parents have allowed the "academies" and the "alliances" and the "odp/whatevers" to sell us this myth that Tommy or Julie will only measure up if they are in this super elite program.

If your KID wants to commit to the trainings and travel and everything else, support them and let them go for it, but if they are doing it because you are living your dream through them, be very careful.

Before all the mud flies, and I am told how my kids "didn't make it", "blah, blah,blah". let me explain that my kids both played at the very top level available in Oregon, THEY chose not to go to the academy level because they were focused on school, and having a life with friends etc...They still play, and could play on any of these super-teams.

Bottom line is make sure your kid is the one driving the decisions.

[Unregistered]

So is the point you are running your child through a meat grinder so they can be turned into some product and sold to a D1 school. THEY chose not to go to the academy level because they were focused on school, and having a life with friends etc...They still play, and could play on any of these super-teams.

Bottom line is make sure your kid is the one driving the decisions.

Good post! I understand completely.

[Unregistered]

Waaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaa

I didn't get anything handed to me for the years of crazy I put in!!!!!!

Waaaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa

[Unregistered]

Waaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaa

I didn't get anything handed to me for the years of crazy I put in!!!!!!

Waaaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa

[img]http://500motivators.com/plog-content/thumbs/motivate/me/large/194-implied-facepalm-when-something-is-so-****ing-retarded-a-full-and-proper-facepalm-is-not-even-necessary.jpg[/img]

[Unregistered]

Waaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaa

I didn't get anything handed to me for the years of crazy I put in!!!!!!

Waaaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa

[img]http://***********/4ca6z9y[/img]

[Unregistered]

Not sure that's right either. They didn't this year, last year, or the year before that I can think of. Gunners and Internationals had a ton. But Premier surprisingly few for how dominant they were. Not too many on Remix either. Were there any from this years U18s?

Nope. He's not right.

Let's also point out that FC Portland had the most kids in the DA program last year.

WST recruits. They don't develop.

[Unregistered]

Nope. He's not right.

Let's also point out that FC Portland had the most kids in the DA program last year.

WST recruits. They don't develop.

and so is FC Portland.

[Unregistered]

[img]http://***********/4ca6z9y[/img]

Waaaaaaaaaaa! I hate the timbers da! Wish I could coach my kid!!!


Waaaaaaaaaa! I hate no one gives me credit for making my kid what they are today!

Just like me......


Crap

[Unregistered]

Waaaaaaaaaaa! I hate the timbers da! Wish I could coach my kid!!!


Waaaaaaaaaa! I hate no one gives me credit for making my kid what they are today!

Just like me......


Crap

http://cooltop10s.com/wp-content/upl...3/06/Moron.jpg

[Unregistered]

This discussion (for me) at least centers around

the reality at least for the last 5 to 10 years-one boys usys/usclub program based in beaverton oregon (wsmetros) has had a tremendous lead over all other clubs in oregon on developing/producing/spitting out top collegiate talent and pro players (I could give a sh*t if they 'developed" them in others pea brain opinion, the fact is it's irrelevant for the discussion, it's another discussion altogether). with that said, and facts being facts. My bigger question is can the timbers d.a. program eventually match at least the standard of players that wsm produced? wsm of ole' seems to have the upper hand on coaching vs. the d.a. of current (which isn't saying much) and the ability to churn out eventual pros. maybe on average one ever 2 to 3 years. so where am i going with this? well if the d.a. can't even replicate what paying customers and honest hardworking part-time local coaches could produce--the bigger question down the road is, does the portland area really have a case to field a d.a. program.
or is it just a sad branding of local youth with a snowballs chance in hell of ever being a pro?

jus aking.

[Unregistered]

whoa

Nope. He's not right.

Let's also point out that FC Portland had the most kids in the DA program last year.
.

WSmetros had over 20 players move on to the Development Academy Timbers last year.

FC PDX had a handful of boys in the D.A ..if 20 is less than a handful, FCPDX had the most kids in the DA program. You read like the FC PDX club accountant.

[Unregistered]

WSmetros had over 20 players move on to the Development Academy Timbers last year.

FC PDX had a handful of boys in the D.A ..if 20 is less than a handful, FCPDX had the most kids in the DA program. You read like the FC PDX club accountant.

Of these 20, how many were from the WS Galacticos team? It is my understanding they comprised most of the U16 team. It is a slightly different perspective to consider it as largely one team, perhaps they are not as dominant as the poster seems to imply.

[Unregistered]

WSmetros had over 20 players move on to the Development Academy Timbers last year.

FC PDX had a handful of boys in the D.A ..if 20 is less than a handful, FCPDX had the most kids in the DA program. You read like the FC PDX club accountant.

You better pull off your shoes and socks and count again. FC Portland had the most kids placed in the DA.

[Unregistered]

So is the point you are running your child through a meat grinder so they can be turned into some product and sold to a D1 school. Everyone should line up like sheep to have the same done to them, and if they don't they don't match up?

Sorry, but that is a pretty myopic view, and to have a kid that pigeonholed by 16 or 18, is actually pretty sad for them. The reason it has gotten this way is we as parents have allowed the "academies" and the "alliances" and the "odp/whatevers" to sell us this myth that Tommy or Julie will only measure up if they are in this super elite program.

If your KID wants to commit to the trainings and travel and everything else, support them and let them go for it, but if they are doing it because you are living your dream through them, be very careful.

Before all the mud flies, and I am told how my kids "didn't make it", "blah, blah,blah". let me explain that my kids both played at the very top level available in Oregon, THEY chose not to go to the academy level because they were focused on school, and having a life with friends etc...They still play, and could play on any of these super-teams.

Bottom line is make sure your kid is the one driving the decisions.

I totally agree with this. I did not make it to college basketball by going through an academy or program or etc... but by hard work where I was at. I really don't understand why soccer tries to structure funnels and alliances and all. I'll let my dk participate in it all however they want, but I am not going to force them into the soccer structure in hoped that they'll "make it".

[Unregistered]

Had to jump in on this strange perception

You better pull off your shoes and socks and count again. FC Portland had the most kids placed in the DA.

21 WSMetros players placed with USSDA Portland Timbers 2012-2013.
4 FC Portland players placed with USSDA Portland Timbers 2012-2013

Team Roster U16

(15) WS Metros Players placed with the timbers D.A----(0) FC Portland

01. Baez, Reid Salem
02. Chimento, Davis Southside
03. De Vera, Niko WSMetros
04. Diaz-Gutierrez, Dagoberto ?
05. Garcia, Damian WSMetros
06. Garcia- Aguilar, Jesse WSMetros
'07. Hassan, Issa Eastside
08. Hermosillo, Octavio Eastside
09. Hernandez, Alan Southside?
10. Holstein, Toby ????
11. Kempf, Jacob Seattle Sounders Acadmey
12. Kernion, Austin WS Metros
13. Kilmer, Elijah Bend Oregon
14. Martin, Joseph Bend Oregon
15. Martinez, Edson Salem Oregon
16. Morgan, Kojiro WS Metros
17. Palodichuk, Matt WS Metros
18. Porreco, Antonio WS Metros
19. Prescott, Peter WS Metros
20. Riemhofer, Logan Bend Oregon
21. Seech, Jordan WS Metros
22. Segovia, Alejandro WS Metros
23. Strever, Isaac WS Metros
24. Velazquez, Rolando WS Metros
25. Brandon Faro WS Metros
26. White, Benjamin WS Metros

Team Roster U18

(6) WS Metros Players placed with the timbers D.A----(4) FC Portland

01. Cawley, Lucas Utah
02. Chesnutt, Cameron F.C. PDX/BSC
03. Desir, Christian Florida via Haiti
04. Duenas, Francisco Salem
05. Esparza, Enrique WS Metros
06. Gonzalez, Gustavo WS Metros
07. Michealson, Christo WS Metros
08. Gonzalez, Antony Salem
09. Mack, David WS Metros
10. Kleweno, Spencer FC PDX/PCU
11. Langsdorf, Foster FC PDX/VUSA
12. Macchione, Anthony WS Metros
13. Martinez, Hector Salem
14. McGuire, Kenton WS Metros
15. Morfin, Abdiel Eastside
16. North, Mitch Medford
17. Nosack, James Seattle Sounders
18. Ortiz, Jose Salem
19. Partee, Collin ?????
20. Street, Cody FC PDX/SSC
21. Werner, Sam Montana
22. Wutte, Stefan Salem
23. Chuy C. Azul/FC Pdx/WS Metros