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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    OPL Cup....what a joke!

    It's the Culdesac Cup
    I think you can say the same for both State Cups. Paid an extra $650 to play the same teams you played in Fall and Spring. I bet you can predict the finals in almost everyone of them. Enjoy.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I think you can say the same for both State Cups. Paid an extra $650 to play the same teams you played in Fall and Spring. I bet you can predict the finals in almost everyone of them. Enjoy.
      MAybe in this weak agegroup....there really isn't much quality in either league. I see a lot of migration happening this coming fall.

      We are only a year away from having two options for the girls....OYSA and ECNL

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        MAybe in this weak agegroup....there really isn't much quality in either league. I see a lot of migration happening this coming fall.

        We are only a year away from having two options for the girls....OYSA and ECNL
        Starting at U14 there isn't really any difference in quality level between OYSA and OPL. All the best players will be in ECNL.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Starting at U14 there isn't really any difference in quality level between OYSA and OPL. All the best players will be in ECNL.
          That's not true. I know a lot of top talent that is choosing to go different routes due to the cost of ECNL. With parent travel costs it can be very expensive.

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            Some top talent, not a lot.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              That's not true. I know a lot of top talent that is choosing to go different routes due to the cost of ECNL. With parent travel costs it can be very expensive.
              If you still travel with your dd at age 16 for soccer tourney, you need a hobby. Let her do this on her own. She doesn't need you coaching from the sidelines.

              There was minimal talent at the H.S. that was non-OPL. ECNL will simply exacerbate this. Oregon soccer was ugly, but what is now left after the split, ecnl and thorns, is downright fugly.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                If you still travel with your dd at age 16 for soccer tourney, you need a hobby. Let her do this on her own. She doesn't need you coaching from the sidelines.

                There was minimal talent at the H.S. that was non-OPL. ECNL will simply exacerbate this. Oregon soccer was ugly, but what is now left after the split, ecnl and thorns, is downright fugly.
                Sad you don't enjoy cheering and supporting your daughter.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  That's not true. I know a lot of top talent that is choosing to go different routes due to the cost of ECNL. With parent travel costs it can be very expensive.
                  I think the definite trend is for talented kids to go a different path. I just don't think wealth and talent always correspond.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I think the definite trend is for talented kids to go a different path. I just don't think wealth and talent always correspond.
                    Totally agree with this. If wealth and talent always went hand in hand, Jesuit would always be really good in sports.

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                      Jesuit

                      Ouch!!

                      It definately helps to have money. Money is used to pay for the club teams and it helps you pay for travel tournaments (where you get better competition).

                      You can also use it to pay for private training sessions. private training sessions can be expensive, but they are well worth the money! But without the money, you can't pay for those things that help you get ahead in the game.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Sad you don't enjoy cheering and supporting your daughter.
                        I do cheer from my dd. 1/2 the matches are home, ans some of the matches are in Seattle. I just don't need to go to Utah.

                        Sad you feel the need to be there. Let the coach coach them.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Starting at U14 there isn't really any difference in quality level between OYSA and OPL. All the best players will be in ECNL.
                          Tru dat.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If you still travel with your dd at age 16 for soccer tourney, you need a hobby. Let her do this on her own. She doesn't need you coaching from the sidelines.

                            There was minimal talent at the H.S. that was non-OPL. ECNL will simply exacerbate this. Oregon soccer was ugly, but what is now left after the split, ecnl and thorns, is downright fugly.
                            Totally agree, I think parents of even U13 and U14 cannot imagine this, but it is true. We definitely still see a lot of her games still at U16, and each parent still chaperone's 1 big out of state event per year, but we don't need to go to everything. If we can drive, we all go (Seattle, NorCal, even Boise), but any flying, we definitely started pulling back at U15.

                            As far as posters say, they won't do it because of parent travel costs, I understand the concern, but this is your daughter's path, if ECNL is what is truly best for her, then everyone will still be just fine with you staying home for a few expensive tournaments.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              That's not true. I know a lot of top talent that is choosing to go different routes due to the cost of ECNL. With parent travel costs it can be very expensive.
                              It's very evident at the younger ages. The best players are not playing in the ECNL league.

                              If you include parent travel it's could be $12000 or more per year. That's ridiculous.

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                                Ecnl doesn't start until U14 so of course the younger ages aren't playing. Also some players will save money & only do Ecnl u16 & u17. Our U14 is in 8th grade. We are waiting at least until next year. Also wanted to let avoid the first year kinks.

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