Boys U13

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CFC is by far the best U13 team. We've dominated all comers. It's incredible that we won't be playing Premier in the fall. That said, we'll take home a sweet State Cup trophy to whet or appetites. Premier league teams...how do your feel your "top" division doesn't even have the best team.

And here goes the WST parents trying to change the subject by pretending to be a CFC parent. Nice try!! CFC parents already have all the information they need.

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Posting 4x in a row doesn't make it seem as if it's multiple people posting. Just say everything you need to say in one post.

And no, WST does not change after one season unless the current coach isn't working out. There's a reason JB is going to take over and I guarantee that Copa will be the top team next season. And to answer your question the team didn't live up to anyone's expectations, not JBs, not Conys, not the parents and surely not the players.

Thanks for the laugh but it wasn't me every time. Obviously you are in disagreement with others.

This is your second time writing "one season." Well everyone in the U11 -U13 year is playing Summer tournaments "season, "a Fall League "season," Spring League "season," and State Cup "season," so which "season' did your player lose out in playing time?

You seem to speak for an entire group of people, so again please be specific as to who all of these ghost people are and what their expectations are? One solid U13 "season" runs from June 1 through State Cup Finals. Yes indeed, WST, like many other clubs, will make coaching changes for the U14 year or very long "season." Ask John, Cony, Jaime, Jimmy, Chris T., Ben, Stan, Dana, and others....

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;965297]Posting 4x in a row doesn't make it seem as if it's multiple people posting. Just say everything you need to say in one post.

And no, WST does not change after one season unless the current coach isn't working out. There's a reason JB is going to take over and I guarantee that Copa will be the top team next season. And to answer your question the team didn't live up to anyone's expectations, not JBs, not Conys, not the parents and surely not the players.[/QU

All I can say is the current coach IS an excellent coach regardless if he's not coaching the U13's next season. How easy can it be coaching your own kid? It is a no win situation. Perhaps this is a good thing for the coach. Just watch him with the U12's and his high school teams. They will do just fine. The current U13's may be stacked and sometimes when a team boasts so much talent it can backfire. I've watched this team play numerous times and there are players who just don't want to share the ball. Too many wannabe heroes.

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The current U13's may be stacked and sometimes when a team boasts so much talent it can backfire. I've watched this team play numerous times and there are players who just don't want to share the ball. Too many wannabe heroes.

That's on the coach then. It's his job to teach these kids how to play properly. I bet JB gets them passing and working together in no time.

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Exactly! This particular coach would not do something like this.

Seems how after the game he told the kids they were better off losing I'd say he was fully aware of the situation.

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That's on the coach then. It's his job to teach these kids how to play properly. I bet JB gets them passing and working together in no time.

Really?! How about the parents that stand behind the goal and parent-coach their sons? These same dads that complain about the players loud enough to be overheard by me, and I don't even know this team?

Yes. It is the coach's job to teach the kids how to play "properly." However, you don't know what is said to the players and you have to wonder about player confusion when they have parents telling them to just take the shots and not worry about passing the ball. I heard that too. So it is the parent-coaches that need to butt out, shut up and let the coaches do their jobs. Almost every team has parent-coaches. All that I can say is that it won't work with JB either. These coaches know how to teach player show to play properly. Don't be surprised to see some players cut at tryouts because of problem parents Poor kids..

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Seems how after the game he told the kids they were better off losing I'd say he was fully aware of the situation.

Taken out of context within the conversation. You forgot about sometimes you need to lose to realize that on any day someone can take your wins away, if the other team showed that they wanted it more and played to prove it. He said the same thing to our U16s.You know what else? I have heard Cony say it, Clive Charles say it, John Bain say it, and Chris Thurley say it. Get over yourself.

I know what he means. He can talk to players until he is blue in the face. You will have players that simply don't get it or refuse to listen. Those kids are not playing for the team, they are playing for themselves. The point is well made that they are better off losing if it teaches them bigger lessons about team unity, teamwork, work ethic, respect the game and listen to the coach.

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Taken out of context within the conversation. You forgot about sometimes you need to lose to realize that on any day someone can take your wins away, if the other team showed that they wanted it more and played to prove it. He said the same thing to our U16s.You know what else? I have heard Cony say it, Clive Charles say it, John Bain say it, and Chris Thurley say it. Get over yourself.

I know what he means. He can talk to players until he is blue in the face. You will have players that simply don't get it or refuse to listen. Those kids are not playing for the team, they are playing for themselves. The point is well made that they are better off losing if it teaches them bigger lessons about team unity, teamwork, work ethic, respect the game and listen to the coach.

Or maybe he just shouldn't play his own son for 70 minutes. A good coach knows how to control his players and get the best out of them. If he can't do that then he's not a good coach. If you have kids who ball hog then sit them until they learn. He needs to start with his own kid. Get him under control before he moves on to anyone else.

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That's on the coach then. It's his job to teach these kids how to play properly. I bet JB gets them passing and working together in no time.

Hahaha..... Have you noticed his son doesn't pass the ball either? My point is that any club coaches should not have his own kids on the same team.

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Really?! How about the parents that stand behind the goal and parent-coach their sons? These same dads that complain about the players loud enough to be overheard by me, and I don't even know this team?

Yes. It is the coach's job to teach the kids how to play "properly." However, you don't know what is said to the players and you have to wonder about player confusion when they have parents telling them to just take the shots and not worry about passing the ball. I heard that too. So it is the parent-coaches that need to butt out, shut up and let the coaches do their jobs. Almost every team has parent-coaches. All that I can say is that it won't work with JB either. These coaches know how to teach player show to play properly. Don't be surprised to see some players cut at tryouts because of problem parents Poor kids..

What league are you in? Parents aren't supposed to be behind the goals in OPL.
Our team has had various parents offering more than encouragement from the sideline from time to time, but the coach usually follows that game up with an email saying "thanks, but I've got this..." and it stops it.
All the coaches I've seen at this age group could use some help, but not from the sideline during a game. Imagine coaching from the stands in a Timbers game...
Coaches are getting paid, but it's not much more than a volunteer gig. I have learned to expect mistakes since they can't really focus on the team outside of the 2-3 hours per week they spend with them.

oh - and it's petty and immature if a club doesn't (or does) select a player at tryouts for any reason other than their playing ability. That is not best for Oregon soccer.

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Or maybe he just shouldn't play his own son for 70 minutes. A good coach knows how to control his players and get the best out of them. If he can't do that then he's not a good coach. If you have kids who ball hog then sit them until they learn. He needs to start with his own kid. Get him under control before he moves on to anyone else.

So your real issue is with the son's playing time and not with how well the coach coaches the team?

"Get him under control before he moves on to anyone else."

Well, his U13s and U16s have advanced to the quarterfinals, and his U18s have advanced to the state semis. Obviously something is going right for the players and the coaches. Give the team and coach credit. For what it's worth, I saw three "ball hogs" in the game against Eastside. I also saw great distribution and runs on goal.

Oh, and here is another bit of interesting information regarding this coach and his older son and daughter: http://portlandpilots.com/roster.asp...2940&path=msoc

Obviously this coach knows how to train and teach players to excel at higher levels. You need to face reality and chill a bit.

As I said before the test will be if your son makes the team for U14 year and if JB starts him. Best of luck to your son.

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So your real issue is with the son's playing time and not with how well the coach coaches the team?

"Get him under control before he moves on to anyone else."

Well, his U13s and U16s have advanced to the quarterfinals, and his U18s have advanced to the state semis. Obviously something is going right for the players and the coaches. Give the team and coach credit. For what it's worth, I saw three "ball hogs" in the game against Eastside. I also saw great distribution and runs on goal.

Oh, and here is another bit of interesting information regarding this coach and his older son and daughter: http://portlandpilots.com/roster.asp...2940&path=msoc

Obviously this coach knows how to train and teach players to excel at higher levels. You need to face reality and chill a bit.


As I said before the test will be if your son makes the team for U14 year and if JB starts him. Best of luck to your son.

Well said! I completely agree with you. It seems as though the ones who complain and whine the loudest are parent of kids who are on the bench. Wake up and face reality. If your kid is on the bench more than on the field, find a trainer and have him work harder. Stop attacking the coach. Your kid is on the bench for a reason!

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What league are you in? Parents aren't supposed to be behind the goals in OPL.
Our team has had various parents offering more than encouragement from the sideline from time to time, but the coach usually follows that game up with an email saying "thanks, but I've got this..." and it stops it.
All the coaches I've seen at this age group could use some help, but not from the sideline during a game. Imagine coaching from the stands in a Timbers game...
Coaches are getting paid, but it's not much more than a volunteer gig. I have learned to expect mistakes since they can't really focus on the team outside of the 2-3 hours per week they spend with them.

oh - and it's petty and immature if a club doesn't (or does) select a player at tryouts for any reason other than their playing ability. That is not best for Oregon soccer.

Exactly. It was the state cup prelims game last weekend. Two dads on the other side of the fence, but behind the goal. OYSA rules were specific that no one could stand back there during state cup but I don't remember seeing it in the OPC rules. Maybe I missed it but parents should not say anything to either team if watching the game anywhere other than the sidelines or above the sidelines.

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And in a brilliant parlay...

in State Cup scheduling...WT Copa gets Oregon Rush and FCP gets ET for the quarterfinals. One might think there is a conspiracy at foot.

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in State Cup scheduling...WT Copa gets Oregon Rush and FCP gets ET for the quarterfinals. One might think there is a conspiracy at foot.

Give it up. No conspiracy, just U13 games.