OPL Winter league schedule?

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That makes no sense.........

Lemme splain it to you, hoss: if you diss, you think yo bettah

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Lemme splain it to you, hoss: if you diss, you think yo bettah

I think your mistaking dissin for a reality check. Complaining on here does no good. Send an email and get an explaination. But then again, then you'd have to think of something else to complain about.

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I think your mistaking dissin for a reality check. Complaining on here does no good. Send an email and get an explaination. But then again, then you'd have to think of something else to complain about.

and even worse, you'd have to identify yourself to the OPL if you expect to get a reply.

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and even worse, you'd have to identify yourself to the OPL if you expect to get a reply.

Only once ever have I questioned a doc of an OPC club. It didn't go over well.

I hate the level of disorganization too. As parents we are pulled in all directions and it should not be too much to ask for a couple of week look ahead. Even a little communication along the lines of letting parents know what weekend to expect it to start would help. If your team is traveling you really need to know more than a couple of days in advance. In order for the level of service to increase there would need to be more choices. Currently there is no motivation to provide any level of service as it is highly unlikely that you can find better in your home town. I think the one poster's attitude pretty much sums up the attitude of the OPL "if you don't like it then go somewhere else".

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Only once ever have I questioned a doc of an OPC club. It didn't go over well.

I hate the level of disorganization too. As parents we are pulled in all directions and it should not be too much to ask for a couple of week look ahead. Even a little communication along the lines of letting parents know what weekend to expect it to start would help. If your team is traveling you really need to know more than a couple of days in advance. In order for the level of service to increase there would need to be more choices. Currently there is no motivation to provide any level of service as it is highly unlikely that you can find better in your home town. I think the one poster's attitude pretty much sums up the attitude of the OPL "if you don't like it then go somewhere else".

Talk with your coach or DOC. I did and he let me know when the team will start playing and the expected schedule for the first weekend. It was a pretty simple process.

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Cultural Change Required

What good does it do to come on here and complain? Talk to your coach, your DOC or email the OPL directly. You might actually get some answers.

The P O I N T of bring up the short comings of the OPC is to help them improve and shame their supporters so that they stop acting like sycophants to the DOC's. Sadly those supporters are "all in" for crappy management and see no point in trying to IMPROVE the situation. Mean while more an more of our best players will opt out of the system and either travel North or quit altogether. Congratulations OPL on a job poorly done!

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The P O I N T of bring up the short comings of the OPC is to help them improve and shame their supporters so that they stop acting like sycophants to the DOC's. Sadly those supporters are "all in" for crappy management and see no point in trying to IMPROVE the situation. Mean while more an more of our best players will opt out of the system and either travel North or quit altogether. Congratulations OPL on a job poorly done!

Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, the OPL supporters are trying to IMPROVE the situation? That maybe instead of coming on a blog and complaining they are contacting the correct people and lodging their complaints in an appropriate manner. Coming on here and complaining is doing nothing to help Oregon soccer. If you really want to improve the system like you say then get in contact with the OPL and let them know directly what needs improvement.

I can guarantee that not one of the best players will opt out of the OPL due to schedules coming out late.

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Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, the OPL supporters are trying to IMPROVE the situation? That maybe instead of coming on a blog and complaining they are contacting the correct people and lodging their complaints in an appropriate manner. Coming on here and complaining is doing nothing to help Oregon soccer. If you really want to improve the system like you say then get in contact with the OPL and let them know directly what needs improvement.

I can guarantee that not one of the best players will opt out of the OPL due to schedules coming out late.

Unfortunately, the level of communication coming out of OPL/OPC is negligible, at best. While I agree that recording complaints directly to them is appropriate, there is a power to a forum such as this (good or bad) which comes in the form of a "you are not alone" mentality. No different than discussions about issues with a particular coach or club. Many times people believe that it's just him/her that has an issue, when in reality the issue may be far more broad. While of course you can't get a clear mandate one way or the other, I do believe there is some value in venting (or whining - whatever floats your boat) on this forum.

As for the player opting out comment, I'm pretty sure the player will go along for the ride. However, behind every player is a support system that is affected (or is it effected - never can get that right).

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As for the player opting out comment, I'm pretty sure the player will go along for the ride. However, behind every player is a support system that is affected (or is it effected - never can get that right).

Heading up north due to late scheduling is not going to do any good. RCL schedules typically come out 2 weeks before the first game. Very similar to the OPL.

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The northern options for girls include ECNL.

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The northern options for girls include ECNL.

No reason to leave your current club if you're getting good training and doing good tournaments. I can't see a parent pulling their daughter because the schedules came out late. Girls can do OPL and be a discovery player for ECNL. Best of both worlds.

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No reason to leave your current club if you're getting good training and doing good tournaments. I can't see a parent pulling their daughter because the schedules came out late. Girls can do OPL and be a discovery player for ECNL. Best of both worlds.

I don't think ANYONE would leave because of schedules. It is the attitudes that drove us north. We were with a club, took issue with lack of opportunity, spoke to our DOC and were told in different words to go to hell. We could have gone to another local club but then we would have to deal with the animosity between parents and having to meet up with old team parents that had no insight into what we had encountered but who thought we were disloyal for leaving suddenly. This is all mirrored in the "if you don't like it then go somewhere else" approach to customer service. There are other options but they are also extreme.

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I don't think ANYONE would leave because of schedules. It is the attitudes that drove us north. We were with a club, took issue with lack of opportunity, spoke to our DOC and were told in different words to go to hell. We could have gone to another local club but then we would have to deal with the animosity between parents and having to meet up with old team parents that had no insight into what we had encountered but who thought we were disloyal for leaving suddenly. This is all mirrored in the "if you don't like it then go somewhere else" approach to customer service. There are other options but they are also extreme.

What does this have to do with the winter league schedules? Sounds more like a personal problem between yourself and your club.

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What does this have to do with the winter league schedules? Sounds more like a personal problem between yourself and your club.

It has to do with berating individuals for their opinions or concerns rather than leaving it at "it is complex and so it is what it is". It worked out better for us anyway but I really hate the "if you don't like it go somewhere else" approach because it can apply to anything.

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I It worked out better for us anyway but I really hate the "if you don't like it go somewhere else" approach because it can apply to anything.

Isn't that what you did? Worked for you. Maybe it will work for the OPL haters.