Tualatin/Sherwood and the Timbers training facility

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Until OPL and OYSA lay down the law on what one needs to provide in the way of coaching this will continue to happen.

Agreed. And for greedy arrogant DOCs to realize that they are hurting youth soccer for the sake of only helping themselves. Are you listening Paul Blackmore?

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The only other way to stop this is for one of the big Westside clubs to pony up the dollars and get their own facility which would dry up both the supply of coaches and players![/QUOTE]

Don't understand this statement at all.

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Aloha, Milltown and Oak Hills all having "competitive" programs. More dilution for the resources of Portland Youth Soccer. These arrogant a-holes who run these clubs need to understand that they are making youth soccer in Portland worse by adding competitive programs. Diluting the players and further stretching the scarce resources.

Oak Hills and Milltown are actually trying to provide a service that is not well represented any longer in the soccer world. They are starting select level programs. They will have more serious training than the rec teams, but will not be a year-round program. This will service and provide an option for the young athletes that want to participate in other sports, but play soccer at a level beyond rec. Why should a soccer player that has potential above rec level only be limited to year-round soccer?

And to be quite honest, after many (not all, but most) of the clubs A teams, the majority of B/C teams in the area are nothing more than select level players; and some are glorified rec teams with the privilege of paying thousands of dollars.

If you look it up, you will find the new Oak Hills/Milltown select teams are in the ballpark of $175. I don't think anyone is getting rich off of that.

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Aloha, Milltown and Oak Hills all having "competitive" programs. More dilution for the resources of Portland Youth Soccer. These arrogant a-holes who run these clubs need to understand that they are making youth soccer in Portland worse by adding competitive programs. Diluting the players and further stretching the scarce resources.

Oak Hills and Milltown are actually trying to provide a service that is not well represented any longer in the soccer world. They are starting select level programs. They will have more serious training than the rec teams, but will not be a year-round program. This will service and provide an option for the young athletes that want to participate in other sports, but play soccer at a level beyond rec. Why should a soccer player that has potential above rec level only be limited to year-round soccer?

And to be quite honest, after many (not all, but most) of the clubs A teams, the majority of B/C teams in the area are nothing more than select level players; and some are glorified rec teams with the privilege of paying thousands of dollars.

If you look it up, you will find the new Oak Hills/Milltown select teams are in the ballpark of $175. I don't think anyone is getting rich off of that.

So the only thing that will be getting DILUTED will be WST's revenue stream.

No wonder they're so torqued-off on this issue!

You arrogant a-holes are costing Davy, Bill and Double Dip, Keith and the rest of the WST Mafia ----- MONEY!

HELL hath no FURY Like a WST'er whose gravy train just got derailed!

Oh but I'm sorry old Double Dip just does it for the purity of the sport right??????????

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Oak Hills and Milltown are actually trying to provide a service that is not well represented any longer in the soccer world. They are starting select level programs. They will have more serious training than the rec teams, but will not be a year-round program. This will service and provide an option for the young athletes that want to participate in other sports, but play soccer at a level beyond rec. Why should a soccer player that has potential above rec level only be limited to year-round soccer?

And to be quite honest, after many (not all, but most) of the clubs A teams, the majority of B/C teams in the area are nothing more than select level players; and some are glorified rec teams with the privilege of paying thousands of dollars.

If you look it up, you will find the new Oak Hills/Milltown select teams are in the ballpark of $175. I don't think anyone is getting rich off of that.

Fine. And these teams, including Aloha, will be well serviced by taking the fields not being used by the competive teams of the area.

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The only other way to stop this is for one of the big Westside clubs to pony up the dollars and get their own facility which would dry up both the supply of coaches and players!

Dude

You think Double Dip would give up his bonus money to pay for WST very own facility?

NOT Frickin LIKELY!

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If you look it up, you will find the new Oak Hills/Milltown select teams are in the ballpark of $175. I don't think anyone is getting rich off of that.

Fine. And these teams, including Aloha, will be well serviced by taking the fields not being used by the competive teams of the area.

At $175 vs $2,000 I'm wondering if there won't be a surplus of turf fields in the near future as WST may be looking at a really reduced membership roster sooner rather than later.

From a purely economics point of view this could be the DEATH of WST's "B/C" teams. Why pay $2,000 when I can get similar if not better competition at $175?

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At $175 vs $2,000 I'm wondering if there won't be a surplus of turf fields in the near future as WST may be looking at a really reduced membership roster sooner rather than later.

From a purely economics point of view this could be the DEATH of WST's "B/C" teams. Why pay $2,000 when I can get similar if not better competition at $175?

The reality is you can't.

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And to be quite honest, after many (not all, but most) of the clubs A teams, the majority of B/C teams in the area are nothing more than select level players; and some are glorified rec teams with the privilege of paying thousands of dollars.

Not sure where your kid plays but the B/C teams at our club are way better than rec or select teams, not to mention the training and coaching. Plus the opportunity for the B/C teams to train with the A team players and guest play.

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The reality is you can't.

Again from an economics point of view-

How many parents will give the $175 price point a "try-out" to see if you're right or wrong?

I'm thinking quite a few - including a whole boat load of parents whose kids are currently on those B/C teams

And with the Timbers grabbin' your top A players for their academy... UH OH!!!!

Houston we have a problem!

Can't wait to see how this PLAYS OUT!

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The reality is you can't.

I agree. Oak Hills and Milltown are going to play in the OYSA PML. Is there anyone of note left in PML? Will the competition be better than rec? A WST, VT, FC PDX, or insert big 8 club name here "B" team will run a "select" Oak Hills/Milltown team off the field, it won't even be close. 12-0 and 20 minutes of "possession". Since both Oak Hills and Milltown have teams in the Bronze brackets on the Mt Hood Challenge this weekend it should be interesting to see the results. You just can't keep up if your foot isn't on the ball year round.

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Not sure where your kid plays but the B/C teams at our club are way better than rec or select teams, not to mention the training and coaching. Plus the opportunity for the B/C teams to train with the A team players and guest play.

Not only that, but what coaching are you getting for $175 a year? Injuries just waiting to happen.

And I don't know what club is charging $2,000.

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Not only that, but what coaching are you getting for $175 a year? Injuries just waiting to happen.

The same Dads who coached the rec teams but think they can coach it up a notch. Not a license to be seen anywhere.

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I agree. Oak Hills and Milltown are going to play in the OYSA PML. Is there anyone of note left in PML? Will the competition be better than rec? A WST, VT, FC PDX, or insert big 8 club name here "B" team will run a "select" Oak Hills/Milltown team off the field, it won't even be close. 12-0 and 20 minutes of "possession". Since both Oak Hills and Milltown have teams in the Bronze brackets on the Mt Hood Challenge this weekend it should be interesting to see the results. You just can't keep up if your foot isn't on the ball year round.

You better pray to GOD if you're one of the B/C teams that faces either MT or Oak Hills that they don't score a "fluke" "lucky-shot" "Ref sucked" "insert your excuse why you lost here" win over you.

Because knowing how those parents are going to react to that "just-formed" last week by a bunch of "arrogant a-holes" who charge $175 for their season team kicking their $2K+ a year full-time commitment to soccer teams ass... Will not I repeat will NOT sit well with them. They'll quickly be asking; "What are we getting for 2K that they're not for a Buck Seventy five?"

Have Fun at the tournament!

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Oak Hills and Milltown are actually trying to provide a service that is not well represented any longer in the soccer world. They are starting select level programs. They will have more serious training than the rec teams, but will not be a year-round program. This will service and provide an option for the young athletes that want to participate in other sports, but play soccer at a level beyond rec. Why should a soccer player that has potential above rec level only be limited to year-round soccer?

And to be quite honest, after many (not all, but most) of the clubs A teams, the majority of B/C teams in the area are nothing more than select level players; and some are glorified rec teams with the privilege of paying thousands of dollars.

If you look it up, you will find the new Oak Hills/Milltown select teams are in the ballpark of $175. I don't think anyone is getting rich off of that.

Okey Dokey. Few issues here. One of the main reasons they can offer a cost this low is because they are not paying for the use or rental of the turf fields, and lights.

Next issue, if they are only offering a program that is not year round, then why do they need turf time? My kids play at a non-THPRD club and we practice on grass through the fall only using the turf and lights during the winter months.

Looks like the problem is solved move on Miltown, Oakhills and Aloha.

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The same Dads who coached the rec teams but think they can coach it up a notch. Not a license to be seen anywhere.

I've never seen a piece of paper determine the level of performance!

I've seen A lic coaches who are phenomenal I've seen A lic coaches who shouldn't be allowed near a field... Same with B,C,D,E's

YMMV