Academy Rosters

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Wiat a minute

They are providing the highest level of soccer ????????

Not so sure on this one. The DA is a league that strives to do so, just like the USYSA Nation League, ODP, US Club. Not sure who has the best, this is just the newest in Portland

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They are providing the highest level of soccer ????????

Not so sure on this one. The DA is a league that strives to do so, just like the USYSA Nation League, ODP, US Club. Not sure who has the best, this is just the newest in Portland

I would agree somewhat with your statement. However, potentially, the DA has the highest level of play in our country at the moment and in the near future. Yesterday it was ODP (and still is for girls)

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ok...so they post rosters and then what? Will you be happy? Does it really matter?! They can do whatever they want with their roster. It's their business, not yours! Give it up already! Big picture buddy! They are providing kids with an opportunity to play at the highest level and that is GOOD for Oregon youth soccer!....oh, but wait...where is the roster?!!!

Then you know who is on the team. Pretty much as simple as that. Why does it get you so whipped up and why is it so hard for the Timbers to select and announce these new professionally organized and managed teams?

PS They can't do whatever they want with their roster. It will be out soon enough because the DA requires it; just like the MLS required them to organize a team which they should have done last year like Vancouver did. That's the big picture--doing things right, not just because someone with more power than you requires it. Get a grip and hold off of that Timbers kool aid.

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Its odd that it's not published, but I suspect that is because PTFC want to make a big announcement and splash at a game. The kids who made it know. I suspect there will be many rough edges to smooth out this year. I am sure Timbers were planning on increased revenue next year, but that is not happening. Whether or not GW is gone, you know that there is going to be roster turbulence which will cost $. And I am guessing they are paying Spencer not to coach for awhile.

So does that mean they can stick to the cost estimates to the DA guys? Who knows.

Good luck to them. In a couple years this will probably be working well, but for now, buckle up and be patient.

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posting of the rosters

The rosters are not up for most of the other MLS academy teams. So the Timbers are not doing anything unusual. A-lot goes into picking the players for the roster, not just who was selected from the try out pool. Players have to be designated as either Developmental or Full Time in the Academy. Developmental players are designated so that they can get additional playing minutes on a club-like team. This usually happens when a player has good potential but is not quite ready (for whatever reason, skill, fitness, academics etc) for rigor of academy games and schedule. There is a great deal of travel, sometimes to play one game on a weekend. Full time players are guaranteed a few starts at the academy level but are not allowed to play on the club-like team thus the competition is fierce to earn academy playing time. The goal of the MLS-sponsored academies is player development with the hope that 1-2 boys will develop to be placed on the first team. The odds are very long, and most boys will not have this opportunity, but this is the primary reason MLS clubs are putting considerable money into their academy teams. Home grown players do not have to be drafted thus they MLS club saves a draft pick while also gaining a known entity from the academy system. Player development also allows many of the academy players to play at the collegiate level. So as long as player development is the primary goal, then the everyone benefits.

Academy practices and league games are routinely scouted by DI coaches. The head coaches from the top 25 DI schools were present at the academy playoffs this June with the exception of a few schools whose coaches were serving as the head coach of one of the U`7-U23 national teams. I know of no other tournament with that level of scouting. This is the primary goal of most academy players. Because player development IS the primary goal, the the players developing int he academy system can serve the MLS team and colleges,

Also MLS territory disputes have to be settled between teams with players wishing to play outside of their home territory, otherwise the team wishing to roster a player from another MLS club's home territory could have that player's eligibility disputed. Screwed up rule, but its in the MLS academy by-laws.

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That was a good explanation. Thanks.

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The rosters are not up for most of the other MLS academy teams. So the Timbers are not doing anything unusual. A-lot goes into picking the players for the roster, not just who was selected from the try out pool. Players have to be designated as either Developmental or Full Time in the Academy. Developmental players are designated so that they can get additional playing minutes on a club-like team. This usually happens when a player has good potential but is not quite ready (for whatever reason, skill, fitness, academics etc) for rigor of academy games and schedule. There is a great deal of travel, sometimes to play one game on a weekend. Full time players are guaranteed a few starts at the academy level but are not allowed to play on the club-like team thus the competition is fierce to earn academy playing time. The goal of the MLS-sponsored academies is player development with the hope that 1-2 boys will develop to be placed on the first team. The odds are very long, and most boys will not have this opportunity, but this is the primary reason MLS clubs are putting considerable money into their academy teams. Home grown players do not have to be drafted thus they MLS club saves a draft pick while also gaining a known entity from the academy system. Player development also allows many of the academy players to play at the collegiate level. So as long as player development is the primary goal, then the everyone benefits.

Academy practices and league games are routinely scouted by DI coaches. The head coaches from the top 25 DI schools were present at the academy playoffs this June with the exception of a few schools whose coaches were serving as the head coach of one of the U`7-U23 national teams. I know of no other tournament with that level of scouting. This is the primary goal of most academy players. Because player development IS the primary goal, the the players developing int he academy system can serve the MLS team and colleges,

Also MLS territory disputes have to be settled between teams with players wishing to play outside of their home territory, otherwise the team wishing to roster a player from another MLS club's home territory could have that player's eligibility disputed. Screwed up rule, but its in the MLS academy by-laws.

Yeah there was one coach at my DS u7 game. Tried to get him to sign his contract with a crayon but he was to busy playing with the worm.

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What

"for rigor of academy games and schedule"

I dont' get this, look at the schedule. It is like a long weekend every now and then with several weeks off.

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"for rigor of academy games and schedule"

I dont' get this, look at the schedule. It is like a long weekend every now and then with several weeks off.

Yes it is not like club where the player has games on both days of the weekend. Its the training schedule that is ramped up significantly that is what account for the rigor, both supervised and unsupervised sessions like weight training, fitness runs, pleiometrics, and technical drills. You are expected to be fit, fast, and technical. Team practices are not to develop soccer skills, but to develop tactics to work as a team. Players typically devote at least 8 hrs /week on these other areas. Its the same in Europe, I have seen some of the best still working each day on their technical skills. Factor this additional time committment into the reasoning along with the travel to games and it makes for a very long season. However, it is amazing to see how these boys develop when the correct level of individual and team training is applied.

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Yes it is not like club where the player has games on both days of the weekend. Its the training schedule that is ramped up significantly that is what account for the rigor, both supervised and unsupervised sessions like weight training, fitness runs, pleiometrics, and technical drills. You are expected to be fit, fast, and technical. Team practices are not to develop soccer skills, but to develop tactics to work as a team. Players typically devote at least 8 hrs /week on these other areas. Its the same in Europe, I have seen some of the best still working each day on their technical skills. Factor this additional time committment into the reasoning along with the travel to games and it makes for a very long season. However, it is amazing to see how these boys develop when the correct level of individual and team training is applied.

Are you a coach? If so, it's a little self-serving don't you think? Applying the correct level of training assuming that the player didn't have that before. If you're a parent, I'm not sure how you'd know since parents aren't allowed to watch and they haven't played a game. Let's see the development when the rubber meets the road. BTW I think the primary purpose of the academy is to develop players, not teams. So to the extent team tactics is part of the training, it's so the individual knows how to work within the team and the system that USSF is pushing.

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Are you a coach? If so, it's a little self-serving don't you think? Applying the correct level of training assuming that the player didn't have that before. If you're a parent, I'm not sure how you'd know since parents aren't allowed to watch and they haven't played a game. Let's see the development when the rubber meets the road. BTW I think the primary purpose of the academy is to develop players, not teams. So to the extent team tactics is part of the training, it's so the individual knows how to work within the team and the system that USSF is pushing.

Next year the Timbers will most likely be fielding three Academy teams, U13/14, U15/16 and U17/18. US Soccer announced that they are expanding the DA to include the U13/14 age group.

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Yes it is not like club where the player has games on both days of the weekend. Its the training schedule that is ramped up significantly that is what account for the rigor, both supervised and unsupervised sessions like weight training, fitness runs, pleiometrics, and technical drills. You are expected to be fit, fast, and technical. Team practices are not to develop soccer skills, but to develop tactics to work as a team. Players typically devote at least 8 hrs /week on these other areas. Its the same in Europe, I have seen some of the best still working each day on their technical skills. Factor this additional time committment into the reasoning along with the travel to games and it makes for a very long season. However, it is amazing to see how these boys develop when the correct level of individual and team training is applied.

This might be the greatest post ever. First off they are going to train 3 nights a week or at least that is what was mentioned at the pre tryouts tryouts at Westside. That compared to the two or three trainings during clubs season and 5 during high school. Most kids have a weight lifting class or acess to it. This is supervised by real instructors not the Timbers staff with no education.

The whole things seems like a way for youth coaches to make more money.

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Next year the Timbers will most likely be fielding three Academy teams, U13/14, U15/16 and U17/18. US Soccer announced that they are expanding the DA to include the U13/14 age group.

If this is the case, come tryouts next year, does that mean that 99 and 2000 would be U13/U14 at the timing of the tryout?

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Are you a coach? If so, it's a little self-serving don't you think? Applying the correct level of training assuming that the player didn't have that before. If you're a parent, I'm not sure how you'd know since parents aren't allowed to watch and they haven't played a game. Let's see the development when the rubber meets the road. BTW I think the primary purpose of the academy is to develop players, not teams. So to the extent team tactics is part of the training, it's so the individual knows how to work within the team and the system that USSF is pushing.

I am not a coach but parent of an academy player in another state. Sorry if it seems that I appear to be self serving, just speaking from experience. I guess I will let folks here talk about it themselves.

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First game is 5 days away.