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Wrong again

If you connected those dots, you must be in the same mental institution ward as the original poster, which, by the way, is you.

You know what they say about assumptions!

opps is that comeback too obtuse?

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If you connected those dots, you must be in the same mental institution ward as the original poster, which, by the way, is you.

Denegrate people because of your stupidity. Perfect.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;810579]1. Do you not know the difference between a non-profit and charitable institutions? Try basic knowledge before you spout nonsense.

Re 1. WSM claims to be a 501 c 3 from their Form 990 filed with Feds and State. Here is the IRS definition

To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170.

The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction.

Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct. For a detailed discussion, see Political and Lobbying Activities. For more information about lobbying activities by charities, see the article Lobbying Issues; for more information about political activities of charities, see the FY-2002 CPE topic Election Year Issues.

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Yes, it is.

You know what they say about assumptions!

opps is that comeback too obtuse?

Yes, it is, given the context. But, that's not stopping you, is it?

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No.

Denegrate people because of your stupidity. Perfect.

Some people need to understand reality, but being stupid when trying to be cute is odious at best. P.S.: Give it a rest, because I won't if you persist.

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OK - except ..

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1. Do you not know the difference between a non-profit and charitable institutions? Try basic knowledge before you spout nonsense.

Re 1. WSM claims to be a 501 c 3 from their Form 990 filed with Feds and State. Here is the IRS definition

To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170.

The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction.

Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct. For a detailed discussion, see Political and Lobbying Activities. For more information about lobbying activities by charities, see the article Lobbying Issues; for more information about political activities of charities, see the FY-2002 CPE topic Election Year Issues.

These organizations are not commonly referred to as charitable organizations but as non-profits.

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Some people need to understand reality, but being stupid when trying to be cute is odious at best. P.S.: Give it a rest, because I won't if you persist.

Wow. An Internet threat. You should have put it in all caps so that everyone knows you mean it.

The poster wasn't being stupid, it was actually pretty clear. To come on and admit that you didn't get it says something about you, not him. And furthermore, he was addressing hypocrites, which is what this entire thread is about. The whole thread is about one little club kicking and screaming because they don't have something. But we all know, if the shoe were on the other foot, this little club would be just fine with the situation. That's called, wait for it, being hypocritical.

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These organizations are not commonly referred to as charitable organizations but as non-profits.

In the eyes of the government, its a charity, that is why donations to the clubs are tax deductible. I think it is really odd that all the local area clubs enjoy the same tax exempt status, under the same section (501c3) as organizations like the American Red Cross.

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In the eyes of the government, its a charity, that is why donations to the clubs are tax deductible. I think it is really odd that all the local area clubs enjoy the same tax exempt status, under the same section (501c3) as organizations like the American Red Cross.

In the eyes of the government it's a 501(c)(3) tax exempt non-profit organization. The code doesn't get in to debates about what is considered a "charity" because it would generate debates like this one. Some you'll approve of and some you won't. There are lots of organizations that qualify that you wouldn't consider charities. There are about 25 different types and the qualifications are set out in other sections of the code.

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Which one?

Some people need to understand reality, but being stupid when trying to be cute is odious at best. P.S.: Give it a rest, because I won't if you persist.

So which one of the three of us is going to have to stop before you understand that demonstrating your lack of comprehension publicly is neither brave or principled?

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Working your way through the O's?

Some people need to understand reality, but being stupid when trying to be cute is odious at best. P.S.: Give it a rest, because I won't if you persist.

Obtuse and now "odious", wow that vocabulary builder must really be working for you this week. Next week when you get to the P's don't for get to look up the meaning of POMPOUS!

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Wow!

Obtuse and now "odious", wow that vocabulary builder must really be working for you this week. Next week when you get to the P's don't for get to look up the meaning of POMPOUS!

You've outdone yourself this time. While your thumbing through your thesaurus, the "p" section, see if you can find your synonym, it rhymes with "rick".

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Obtuse and now "odious", wow that vocabulary builder must really be working for you this week. Next week when you get to the P's don't for get to look up the meaning of POMPOUS!

You are quite observant. I didn't realize he was using a bunch of fancy O words before you pointed it out. He is being quite obnoxious about it. He can use these words, yet he can't comprehend basic logic. He's quite an oxymoron.

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I thought he/she skipped the M's

You are quite observant. I didn't realize he was using a bunch of fancy O words before you pointed it out. He is being quite obnoxious about it. He can use these words, yet he can't comprehend basic logic. He's quite an oxymoron.

You are being much kinder than I would be for I would have left of the "oxy"! The consumption of which might explain a few things though!

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I find it interesting that some are so quick to brush off Mr. Doyle's alleged conflict. Think of it this way. He is paid to be full time mayor of Beaverton. A full time 6 figure gig. One that is hardly an 8 to 5 job. Ironically, at the same time, he was paid 50 K for 24 hours a week (i think that is what the IRS form said) for some sort of service to WSM. To put in context that means WSM represented that he did something for 1,200 hours. Well, he didn't coach, he didnt push paper in the office (they have staff for that), they dont own their own fields, what did he do? Its only a 500K revenue organization and to get that high of a percentage of the revenue, it should have been something constructive and material. More instructively, he has not been paid recently. So did they hire someone else to do what he did? I dont know, but i doubt it, does anyone know? That might yield some insight.

The question ultimately is did he compromise his time with the City (I doubt that), or did a 501c3 get what they paid for and is that consistent wiht the charitable mission of WSM?

Note i think it is a bit of a stretch that any of the larger local soccer clubs are truly "charitable" based on their behaviors.

Since you seem to have a personal vendetta against one particular person and one particular club, then could you please tell us what you have done to actually find out what the person did do to earn his pay? Obviously you have not been involved with the club or around city government for any legitimate amount of time, or else you would have known about the legitimate work he performed. You also would not know about the years and likely thousands of volunteer hours he has given to youth programs, including THUSC, Westside Metros, Westside Warriors, softball, baseball, and so on.

Beaverton City government is no different from other local governments in that council members often hold other jobs/own businesses. Mayor Doyle has a solid and fully disclosed background, including owning his own business, and other employment. Many of us have also known him through many,many years of Rotary membership, business transactions, and volunteer work. He is honest and legitimate. Yes. I know his work for Westside, as well as other youth organizations.

However, a gossip forum is not the place to make misguided assumptions and try to ruin the reputation of good people, good youth programs, and families.