Vancouver Timbers to OPL

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To add to this, if the WA teams couldn't play in the OPL State Cup or the WA USYSA State Cup would this really be that big of a deal? It is one tournament, should this be what stops or prohibits us from doing what is best for the bulk of our kids?

Premier clubs are never really about doing what's right for the "bulk" of the kids. Primary focus is always on the best players, developing them to their full potential so they can play at ever higher levels. The "bulk" are just looking for a place to play the game today - it might not be a part of their future...

Playing in a state cup might not be a big deal for the kids playing on the "C" and "D" teams but those on the "A" teams want to compete with the best to be state cup winners. I don't have a problem if lower level teams want to play OPL and not play in a state cup, but the "A" teams need to have the ability to play where they have the best competition. It's the clubs purpose to provide the best possible development and competition opportunities for these kids and for some that is RCL and WA State Cup.

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Yes it does open a Pandora's box because ultimately you ex-nemesis 99 parents are a cancer that has now spread to WSA.

Plain and simple, If RCL won't let you into anything but division 3, OPL shouldn't even let you into First Division let alone Premier.

Also, you are not the same team that you were in NWCL who are you kidding.

You lost the #1 player, assistant coaches kid that scored 90% of your goals at NWCL to age because the assistant coach realized that your current coach was full of it and riding the kids for wins.

You lost your 2nd and 3rd best player to VUSA (probably the only good parents) after they realized your current coach and team manager were two nut jobs (who are perfect for eachother by the way) and tried to get everyone to drink the coolaid to jump ship together and not play in the spring.

Lost your 4th back to the assistant coach who left in the first place......

Word has it that you picked up some select B team kids to fill your roster because you've successfully alienated yourself at WSA besides the random bug you spread trying to get WSA's A team players.

1. Ultimately you're going to get dismantled after those people find out that Victor has a snowballs chance in hell to coach at the new merged club next year.

Or,

2. You will make a pact to stick together and following him like sheep to Chehalis where he will tell you that playing up 4 years to find a league is the right thing to do by the players......


Really...................please don't talk again. Really, you're only making it worse for your kid and that team and please keep as much distance as you can from our team, tryouts were Gary's pathetic idea of showing he has smarts.

From the outside looking in your answer to the previous posters quote shows that you have some serious issues with that team or people on that team. Border line hatred. If this is over soccer you should look in the mirror and ask why. It appears that they have left your team/club and you should be happy. If it were my kid and I had a chance to go back to the previous club and read this I would stay away.

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Playing in the USYSA State Cup is not what it used to be, even in WA now you have teams not entering at the ECNL age groups. I think in a few years this will not be an issue at all. If you look at many of the top states in Region IV there were a lot of the top clubs that opted to not play in their state's State Cup.

Some maybe, but not many, right? Also I suppose you can bypass the State Cup and hope to win the regional tournament to qualify for the US Club Soccer National Tournament. The whole thing is frankly kind of a mess and not easy to understand. I think USYSA should sanction OPL, but I suppose their are rules that prevent them from doing so, not to mention the politics we witness in this forum endlessly.

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Some maybe, but not many, right? Also I suppose you can bypass the State Cup and hope to win the regional tournament to qualify for the US Club Soccer National Tournament. The whole thing is frankly kind of a mess and not easy to understand. I think USYSA should sanction OPL, but I suppose their are rules that prevent them from doing so, not to mention the politics we witness in this forum endlessly.

OYSA offered to sanction the OPL league and they turned it down. Im sure they (OPL) were too afraid of low attendance at their state cup tourney.

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OYSA offered to sanction the OPL league and they turned it down. Im sure they (OPL) were too afraid of low attendance at their state cup tourney.

The OPL State Cup leads nowhere. You don't need to win it to go to US Club NPL Championships. Why not have OYSA sanction the OPL league and then teams can dual-register with US Youth and US Club as needed to do the Oregon State Cup / Far West Regionals / US Youth Nationals route or the US Club Regionals / US Club Nationals route.

This would seem to be the best solution for the kids. Maybe not the best solution for those "profiting" from youth soccer in Oregon however...

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Doing Both was an Option

The OPL State Cup leads nowhere. You don't need to win it to go to US Club NPL Championships. Why not have OYSA sanction the OPL league and then teams can dual-register with US Youth and US Club as needed to do the Oregon State Cup / Far West Regionals / US Youth Nationals route or the US Club Regionals / US Club Nationals route.

This would seem to be the best solution for the kids. Maybe not the best solution for those "profiting" from youth soccer in Oregon however...

There were several teams that participated in both leaving both those options open.

The OPL state cup leads to US Club Nationals. Sure you don't need to win state cup to get to Nationals, you could win a regional tournament which usually has fairly good competition. Bottom line Nationals is not something you can bank on if you don't win your state cup. Regionals is sign up and play. There is a huge difference between USYS and US Club regarding regional tournaments. The USYS tournament is at a much higher level.

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There were several teams that participated in both leaving both those options open.

The OPL state cup leads to US Club Nationals. Sure you don't need to win state cup to get to Nationals, you could win a regional tournament which usually has fairly good competition. Bottom line Nationals is not something you can bank on if you don't win your state cup. Regionals is sign up and play. There is a huge difference between USYS and US Club regarding regional tournaments. The USYS tournament is at a much higher level.

I couldn't find anything on the US Club Nationals website saying that US Club State champions (ie. OPL State Cup or US Club WA State Cup) were automatically qualified for the Nationals. All it says is that group winners from each of the US Club Regionals advance to the Nationals. Cost for Nationals is $0 as it's baked into your entry fee for Regionals.

What I'm trying to get at is that teams should have as many choices as possible as to the route they wish to follow. And to maximize the opportunities, Oregon really needs to consolidate the two state cups into one.

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Two year exemption

I couldn't find anything on the US Club Nationals website saying that US Club State champions (ie. OPL State Cup or US Club WA State Cup) were automatically qualified for the Nationals. All it says is that group winners from each of the US Club Regionals advance to the Nationals. Cost for Nationals is $0 as it's baked into your entry fee for Regionals.

What I'm trying to get at is that teams should have as many choices as possible as to the route they wish to follow. And to maximize the opportunities, Oregon really needs to consolidate the two state cups into one.

OPL was given a two year free pass to US Club Nationals. Next year the all OPL teams wishing to go to Nationals will need to go to Regionals and win to get to Nationals.

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OPL was given a two year free pass to US Club Nationals. Next year the all OPL teams wishing to go to Nationals will need to go to Regionals and win to get to Nationals.

But can't any team go to US Club Regionals, or is that changing also next year? Thanks.

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OPL was given a two year free pass to US Club Nationals. Next year the all OPL teams wishing to go to Nationals will need to go to Regionals and win to get to Nationals.

The league winners will be going to the National Premier League Championships. They, US Club, are putting more emphasis on league as opposed to a tournament over a few weekends.

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The league winners will be going to the National Premier League Championships. They, US Club, are putting more emphasis on league as opposed to a tournament over a few weekends.

what if the team is from Washington?

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what if the team is from Washington?

Won't matter as it is league winner to represent Oregon Premier League

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The league winners will be going to the National Premier League Championships. They, US Club, are putting more emphasis on league as opposed to a tournament over a few weekends.

League winners from last year (U13 and up) can go to Nationals.

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League winners from last year (U13 and up) can go to Nationals.

Is anybody actually going?

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Is anybody actually going?

Not sure but this year it was only on the boys side. Seems as if they are still working on getting this off the ground. Our DOC thought by 2013 they would have things worked out and have the girls added in as well.