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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Your post is confusing. The cost will be about the same to get to and stay in Chicago or San Diego. That one is a wash. Regarding competition, you note that last year there weren't a lot of east coast and mid-west teams in Boise. Don't you think Chicago is a whole lot more appealing to them than Boise? I do. It's certainly easier to get to from just about anywhere in the country.

    Surf Cup v. US Club Nationals? It depends upon the goal. If it's to get college looks then Surf is better. If the team can win, winning a national championship is better. "We won the national championship" sounds a whole lot better than "we won Surf Cup." Run it by a non-soccer person and see what type of reaction you get. An explanation that the Surf Cup has better competition blah, blah, blah will be returned by that "whatever" look.
    I find it interesting that your post contradicts itself. You mentioned te college coaches are looking at Surf, but the non-soccer person wants the Natl Title

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      #17
      I love soccer tournaments. I love EZ ups and laying in the shade in between games. I love the sounds immediately following the team scoring. I love camaraderie and the sense of community.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I love soccer tournaments. I love EZ ups and laying in the shade in between games. I love the sounds immediately following the team scoring. I love camaraderie and the sense of community.
        Blah blah blah, I like to win baby! Ha just kidding I totally agree w you.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Your post is confusing. The cost will be about the same to get to and stay in Chicago or San Diego. That one is a wash. Regarding competition, you note that last year there weren't a lot of east coast and mid-west teams in Boise. Don't you think Chicago is a whole lot more appealing to them than Boise? I do. It's certainly easier to get to from just about anywhere in the country.

          Surf Cup v. US Club Nationals? It depends upon the goal. If it's to get college looks then Surf is better. If the team can win, winning a national championship is better. "We won the national championship" sounds a whole lot better than "we won Surf Cup." Run it by a non-soccer person and see what type of reaction you get. An explanation that the Surf Cup has better competition blah, blah, blah will be returned by that "whatever" look.
          ???? Whatever....

          Competition is fine at both,but with nationals, my point is, you go to Chicago and a whole other section of the country will not go...like California.

          It is a personal preference that depends largely on your kids goals. My daughter is in high school and I can tell you that winning Surf Cup is big.

          Topping it all off, Stanford, Boston U, Yale, Harvard, were all at Surf. Please checkout the list of colleges on their web site.

          What works for us does not work for everyone.

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            #20
            Winning is always a plus!!

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Your post is confusing. The cost will be about the same to get to and stay in Chicago or San Diego. That one is a wash. Regarding competition, you note that last year there weren't a lot of east coast and mid-west teams in Boise. Don't you think Chicago is a whole lot more appealing to them than Boise? I do. It's certainly easier to get to from just about anywhere in the country.

              Surf Cup v. US Club Nationals? It depends upon the goal. If it's to get college looks then Surf is better. If the team can win, winning a national championship is better. "We won the national championship" sounds a whole lot better than "we won Surf Cup." Run it by a non-soccer person and see what type of reaction you get. An explanation that the Surf Cup has better competition blah, blah, blah will be returned by that "whatever" look.
              The poster wasnt saying that one place is more expensive than the other.. They were saying they cannot do both so they chose the one that best fits the teams goals.

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                #22
                I love when the team parents just seem to click and it is fun to travel to tournaments and just hang out together!!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                  Surf Cup v. US Club Nationals? It depends upon the goal. If it's to get college looks then Surf is better. If the team can win, winning a national championship is better. "We wo the national championship" sounds a whole lot better than "we won Surf Cup." Run it by a non-soccer person and see what type of reaction you get. An explanation that the Surf Cup has better competition blah, blah, blah will be returned by that "whatever" look.
                  Who cares what a non-soccer person thinks? Winning Surf is way bigger than winning the US Club Nationals. Gaining the respect and admiration of the top soccer personnel is a bit more of an accomplishment then gaining the same respect from my 84 year old neighbor.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Who cares what a non-soccer person thinks? Winning Surf is way bigger than winning the US Club Nationals. Gaining the respect and admiration of the top soccer personnel is a bit more of an accomplishment then gaining the same respect from my 84 year old neighbor.
                    Thank you!

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                      #25
                      Last years region IV championship

                      http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org...ships/coaches/

                      This is a list of the college coaches that attended last years region IV championship. Folks are still registering for this year. Seems like a pretty impressive mix, with several colleges sending multiple coaches.

                      Just saying...

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org...ships/coaches/

                        This is a list of the college coaches that attended last years region IV championship. Folks are still registering for this year. Seems like a pretty impressive mix, with several colleges sending multiple coaches.

                        Just saying...
                        It's decent but take a look at the Surf Cup college coaches who attended last year. Much better selection.

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                          #27
                          Depends on where you want to go to school

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          It's decent but take a look at the Surf Cup college coaches who attended last year. Much better selection.
                          Chi town will attract a different mix of coaches than San Diego. So it really comes down to where does your player want to go to school.

                          If a coach is there and they see your child play they will get to see them against better than league or state level competition and that is what they will be making their decision on. Unless your DD or DS is the next Hamm or Donovan and can take over a game and single handedly win the tournament it really does not matter which tourney they are playing in as long as they play well against quality competition. Last years spud cup could not make that claim. Hopefully this year the central location will attract stronger teams that will provide coaches with a more honest evaluation of skills.

                          Regardless of where you end up going you have to do the prep work to get on the radar and that includes a linkable player profile and direct contacts with the school plus sharing your teams schedule and field locations AND changes.

                          Good luck to ALL Oregon players in the up coming recruiting season!

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                            #28
                            Most People

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Who cares what a non-soccer person thinks? Winning Surf is way bigger than winning the US Club Nationals. Gaining the respect and admiration of the top soccer personnel is a bit more of an accomplishment then gaining the same respect from my 84 year old neighbor.
                            Most people do because they're not soccer geeks like the people who post on this board, including me. I've heard peers from different sports say at high school games "see that kid, his club team won a national championship." Haven't heard, "see that kid, his team won Surf Cup." You don't gain the respect of a bunch of soccer people by playing at a tournament, you gain it by being a good player. That's why if you want a bunch of coaches to see you Surf is better. And really, you'd rather have the respect of a bunch of soccer people than your 84 year old neighbor?

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Most people do because they're not soccer geeks like the people who post on this board, including me. I've heard peers from different sports say at high school games "see that kid, his club team won a national championship." Haven't heard, "see that kid, his team won Surf Cup." You don't gain the respect of a bunch of soccer people by playing at a tournament, you gain it by being a good player. That's why if you want a bunch of coaches to see you Surf is better. And really, you'd rather have the respect of a bunch of soccer people than your 84 year old neighbor?
                              Soccer respect, yes. That is all that was being discussed. I would much rather have my dd's team impress the scouts, coaches, and parents at Surf Cup then to go tell my neighbor who knows nothing about soccer that her team won a "National tournamet" when I know myself it is not a true National tournament.

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                                #30
                                Would Have to Win First

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Soccer respect, yes. That is all that was being discussed. I would much rather have my dd's team impress the scouts, coaches, and parents at Surf Cup then to go tell my neighbor who knows nothing about soccer that her team won a "National tournamet" when I know myself it is not a true National tournament.
                                You know how many Oregon girls teams have actually won the "not a true National tournament." Just one: FC PDX in 2003. There's also been one Oregon boys team. Take a look at the list of past winners. There are a lot of clubs and teams you should recognize. You can tell yourself it's not worth it, or your team is too good, or it's not a true national tournament, or you'd rather impress soccer coaches, or parents from some other team, but you'll never know unless you play.

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