Portland Timbers Youth Soccer

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Your fantasy world is not helpful in the reality of youth soccer. If it has the potential for girl's soccer to become bigger than the boys side, it also has the potential of being a whole lot worse. Given who is running it, my wild guess is the latter. Why would you post such a ridiculous thing when not only are the details not available, but the implementation has not happened? I've got a bridge cheap, too.

This isn't a fantasy and it is sad that you show your true cards here.

Everyone that read your post understands your point...you want the Timbers to fail the girls side. And that is ok....planning is taking place...the Timbers are not the first MLS team to implement something like this. This model has taken place at other clubs. Will it be perfect? NO. Will the right people be in charge? I don't know....but I do know that it can't be worse than what Oregon ODP is now.

I would love it for you to keep bashing the Timbers and their plans for ODP on both the boys side and girls side....I know they come on here to read these posts....you're helping out by fueling the fire that you can't stop. Thank you!

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Seriously

TA has no interaction of consequence with the Timbers "brass". Why would he? Why would he need to interact with them? They already have certified previous youth club losers in Rilatt and Gavin. Then they have Erik in ODP. Do you realize that many, many boys will not want to associate themselves with DA? Do you even know why?

I have no beef with TA. Don't know him. But when it comes to the Timbers you are delusional! "Many boys will not want to associate themselves with DA, Do you even know why?" You are only right in that very few boys will make it that's why!
Funny how you knock Rilatt ... didn't he win the U23 National Championships for the Timbers recently .... guess he's a bad coach. Get real and quit spouting such trash.

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Let's face it, just like most other states with a solid MLS team and DA, Oregon soccer is now Timber soccer. Not sure why people are trying to fight it. Most DOCs knew this before the Timbers (MLS) even came here. This is nothing new. Infact, this needs to happen.

Everybody preaches about "unified" soccer. Well, it's finally on its way and now the same people that want it unified are fighting it.

This sums it up. Much like the rest of the world you will have one professional program with an ENTIRE youth system underneath (boys and girls).

I'm excited for our kids to have something more to play for.

I'm excited for our country to have it's first real plan of developing soccer players.

Just wish my kids were a little younger and had more time in the new system.

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I have no beef with TA. Don't know him. But when it comes to the Timbers you are delusional! "Many boys will not want to associate themselves with DA, Do you even know why?" You are only right in that very few boys will make it that's why!
Funny how you knock Rilatt ... didn't he win the U23 National Championships for the Timbers recently .... guess he's a bad coach. Get real and quit spouting such trash.

There are concerns. It's not like the persons involved are unknown to the competitive soccer community.

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There are concerns. It's not like the persons involved are unknown to the competitive soccer community.

The unfortunate truth for those that are unwilling to put their "concerns" aside they will find themselves on the "outside looking in".

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Looking in?

The unfortunate truth for those that are unwilling to put their "concerns" aside they will find themselves on the "outside looking in".

I agree with the previous poster, not everybody wants "in". That seems to be the assumption here, that everybody wants in. Many players won't be "looking in", because they don't want to. We can speculate all we want about who is in or doesn't want in, when it happens, we'll all know.

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Self Inflicted ...

I agree with the previous poster, not everybody wants "in". That seems to be the assumption here, that everybody wants in. Many players won't be "looking in", because they don't want to. We can speculate all we want about who is in or doesn't want in, when it happens, we'll all know.

I thought we were talking about the DA program?
If so there will be a huge demand to make a Timbers DA team. The "in" you speak of will be a very very small minority. The ones who don't want "in" will most likely not be missed and in the long run are probably not the right fit for the level of committment required.
If, as the other poster eluded to, players hold out due to a "concern" with Rilatt then they are only hurting themselves. So be it.

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Once again

I thought we were talking about the DA program?
If so there will be a huge demand to make a Timbers DA team. The "in" you speak of will be a very very small minority. The ones who don't want "in" will most likely not be missed and in the long run are probably not the right fit for the level of committment required.
If, as the other poster eluded to, players hold out due to a "concern" with Rilatt then they are only hurting themselves. So be it.

There will be a huge demand for Timbers DA. Some who choose not to, they will be missed. You imply that they won't be because of skill level or commitment. Utter BS. By the way, local guy did Bradenton, Dustin Corea (sp?), and how did that work out for him? Another local guy, Danny Mwunga (sp?), did Westside Metros and then Oregon State, and how has that worked out? Three year contract with Philly Union at over $200,000 per year and he is 20.

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There will be a huge demand for Timbers DA. Some who choose not to, they will be missed. You imply that they won't be because of skill level or commitment. Utter BS. By the way, local guy did Bradenton, Dustin Corea (sp?), and how did that work out for him? Another local guy, Danny Mwunga (sp?), did Westside Metros and then Oregon State, and how has that worked out? Three year contract with Philly Union at over $200,000 per year and he is 20.

All before the Timbers DA program. Just sayin the rules have changed. The strong club teams that you reference at the DA ages will be significantly weakend and great players will either have to travel out of state or join the DA program. Will all play Timbers DA? No .... but their local options will be limited or non-existent.

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No one said the Timbers won't do anything for the girls. They will take over the ODP program and I am excited about that. What is ridiculous is those that think the girls will flock to WSM or ESUFC. Those two clubs have never taken an interest in the girls and that will only get worse now. VUSA will be fine for girls.

What will happen is OSSA, THUSC, and FC will see more and more girls show up to their programs so they can travel to showcases, go to Surf Cup, and prepare for the Timbers ODP teams. Timbers ODP will have nothing to do with club affliation on the girls side contrary to what WSM and ESUFC want you to believe. The Timbers might do great things for Oregon girls but the affliated clubs will continue to do nothing. Now if you have a son I think that WSM or ESUFC will be a great place to go but I also think you'd be fine at FC Portland. It's all about developing so when the time comes your son is ready for the DA. Won't matter what his jersey was prior to that. Same with the girls.

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There will be a huge demand for Timbers DA. Some who choose not to, they will be missed. You imply that they won't be because of skill level or commitment. Utter BS. By the way, local guy did Bradenton, Dustin Corea (sp?), and how did that work out for him? Another local guy, Danny Mwunga (sp?), did Westside Metros and then Oregon State, and how has that worked out? Three year contract with Philly Union at over $200,000 per year and he is 20.

And no degree to show for it. I hope he doesn't get injured and doesn't live beyond his means. For further reference, see 80% of the NBA.

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There will be a huge demand for Timbers DA. Some who choose not to, they will be missed. You imply that they won't be because of skill level or commitment. Utter BS. By the way, local guy did Bradenton, Dustin Corea (sp?), and how did that work out for him? Another local guy, Danny Mwunga (sp?), did Westside Metros and then Oregon State, and how has that worked out? Three year contract with Philly Union at over $200,000 per year and he is 20.

And at 25, he will be making $50,000 a year as a soccer coach and by working at a soccer shop. By the way, it might surprise you that some folks who have kids playing soccer make in excess of $200,000 a year.

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And at 25, he will be making $50,000 a year as a soccer coach and by working at a soccer shop. By the way, it might surprise you that some folks who have kids playing soccer make in excess of $200,000 a year.

and some (majority) less then that..

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Not sure I follow the college comments? Maybe I'm missing something. The Timbers DA program is pre-college. Nothing says a kid won't be part of the Timbers DA program then play in college and earn his degree. Possibly play in the Timbers U23 program? Sign pro if they're fortunate to make it that far.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;731592]No one said the Timbers won't do anything for the girls. They will take over the ODP program and I am excited about that. What is ridiculous is those that think the girls will flock to WSM or ESUFC. Those two clubs have never taken an interest in the girls and that will only get worse now. VUSA will be fine for girls.

Unless you know your 10 year old is going to play in college or pros, you might want to check out your local clubs to start with. WS has a good development program and girls director and is trying to build the program. Yes THUSC and WS compete for the girls and players, but as been stated before that both have weak and strong teams. Just saying there are several choices and think WS does a good job overall for boys and girls. Nothing against the other clubs either. It just depends on the player/team/coach. You are welcome to your opinion, but should not generalize. I think we are all learning and trying to improve.

If you are new to soccer just check out your local club, see if it seems to be a good fit. If not you can still check around after tryouts for other options. Then of course once you start playing, you can usually get a better idea from games, can always change the next year if needed. Just my opinion. Usually with parent support, teams improve and work out.

Not sure why some people on this thread are so upset.