U-12G Spring

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Well, I pay a lot of money for soccer, just as we all do, and I don't pay that money to see my kids sit the bench. The way I have always wanted it was for my kid to be the 10th or 11th best player. That way, they get a lot of playing time and start, but they have kids in front of them pushing them. So we've always chosen teams based upon that. However, my oldest is at the top of her team (if playing time is an indication) and right now, she is on one of the top teams so it doesn't make sense to move. If you kid is number 16, I believe she is over her head on that team and would look for a new one where she would be around 7th-11th player on that team. I would look more for a lower level Premier team or a Division 1 team (I would avoid B teams if possible, play on the A team that just happens to be in Division 1). If she gets better, she will likely like it more and if she develops well, she could try out on a top Premier team at U14 or so. That's just my opinion. Good luck.

Thanks for the thoughts.

My daughter starts most games and plays between half to 2/3rd of a game. So a little harder decision. If she was getting no playing time then I would for sure move her. The reality on her team is they have 18 solid players (the B team even has some players that could play on the A team) and although my daughter starts, there isn't much drop off when the subs come in (and unfortunately she is not a player who makes such an impact she plays 80% of the time).

I actaully feel for the coach who probably gets second guessed all the time. The real problem I personally have is bringing in more players (and to me they didn't add much to the team).

I'm really not a disgruntled parent, just got caught up into this because I hate an 18 player roster for U12 girls. My girl (as others) could play the whole game with little to no drop off if she got the opportunity (she has had in a couple of games)

We were told that it will be different in State Cup and I actually think my daughter will get lots of PT then (could be in for a surprise). But whatever happens, my little input after a year is 18 is too many for U12. Let's see if I think the same thing at u13 . . .

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Thanks for the thoughts.

My daughter starts most games and plays between half to 2/3rd of a game. So a little harder decision. If she was getting no playing time then I would for sure move her. The reality on her team is they have 18 solid players (the B team even has some players that could play on the A team) and although my daughter starts, there isn't much drop off when the subs come in (and unfortunately she is not a player who makes such an impact she plays 80% of the time).

I actaully feel for the coach who probably gets second guessed all the time. The real problem I personally have is bringing in more players (and to me they didn't add much to the team).

I'm really not a disgruntled parent, just got caught up into this because I hate an 18 player roster for U12 girls. My girl (as others) could play the whole game with little to no drop off if she got the opportunity (she has had in a couple of games)

We were told that it will be different in State Cup and I actually think my daughter will get lots of PT then (could be in for a surprise). But whatever happens, my little input after a year is 18 is too many for U12. Let's see if I think the same thing at u13 . . .

Sounds like you are on the right team for her then. I would not move. I would, however, discuss with the coach his feelings for having 18. Having 18 means either the lowest players get too little, or too much playing time. If it is the latter, which it sounds like in your case, then that comes at the expense of the top players playing times. Maybe you increase the fees a bit to make it 16 for next year (I still think 16 is too many, but it is manageable). If you are paying $1,000 a year for fees, which is probably a bit low, then the extra $2,000 he would give up from only having 16 players would result in an increase of $125 per person to make it even out for him. And I assume that you are just playing OPL fall and spring, and one or two tournaments. If you are playing five our six tournaments and not all of the players can make every tournament, then maybe 18 is a better amount to have.

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Shutout Saturday

FC Navy over BSC 1-0 --- Navy had some trouble with the Div 1 champs.
LO over Corvallis 8-0 --- LO ready to make some noise in State Cup.
BSC over SS 4-0 ---- Could these girls find their way into the semis? Perhaps.
FC W. over WUSC 2-0 --- After tying Eugene...this? Bravo FC W. wish ou were in Stare cup.
EMFC over THUSC 2-0 --- Eugene will be a tough out in State Cup. These will play in finals.
Rush over WSM 4-0 --- Strange result. Rush is my State cup dark horse.

In one game anything can happen, but after four games of bracket play the cream will rise to the top. The semis will include the four top seeds, any other result would be a huge upset. Obviously, EMFC is the favorite, but winning two straight games (semis/finals) against any two of these four top teams will be a monumental challenge for anyone. Whoever achieves this will indeed have earned the title of State Cup Champs!

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FC Navy over BSC 1-0 --- Navy had some trouble with the Div 1 champs.
LO over Corvallis 8-0 --- LO ready to make some noise in State Cup.
BSC over SS 4-0 ---- Could these girls find their way into the semis? Perhaps.
FC W. over WUSC 2-0 --- After tying Eugene...this? Bravo FC W. wish ou were in Stare cup.
EMFC over THUSC 2-0 --- Eugene will be a tough out in State Cup. These will play in finals.
Rush over WSM 4-0 --- Strange result. Rush is my State cup dark horse.

In one game anything can happen, but after four games of bracket play the cream will rise to the top. The semis will include the four top seeds, any other result would be a huge upset. Obviously, EMFC is the favorite, but winning two straight games (semis/finals) against any two of these four top teams will be a monumental challenge for anyone. Whoever achieves this will indeed have earned the title of State Cup Champs!

It's spring....... I wouldn't over analyze games. Spring season doesn't count, teams are and should be developing players, trying them in differing positions, tweaking line ups, and moving girls up from B teams, if the clubs have B teams.

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It's spring....... I wouldn't over analyze games. Spring season doesn't count, teams are and should be developing players, trying them in differing positions, tweaking line ups, and moving girls up from B teams, if the clubs have B teams.

Really? A half a sentence about each game, then a one paragraph prediction of the State Cup and he's accused of "over analyzing"?? This is not my kid's age group but I wish we had this kind of "over analyzing" for her age.

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Sounds like you are on the right team for her then. I would not move. I would, however, discuss with the coach his feelings for having 18. Having 18 means either the lowest players get too little, or too much playing time. If it is the latter, which it sounds like in your case, then that comes at the expense of the top players playing times. Maybe you increase the fees a bit to make it 16 for next year (I still think 16 is too many, but it is manageable). If you are paying $1,000 a year for fees, which is probably a bit low, then the extra $2,000 he would give up from only having 16 players would result in an increase of $125 per person to make it even out for him. And I assume that you are just playing OPL fall and spring, and one or two tournaments. If you are playing five our six tournaments and not all of the players can make every tournament, then maybe 18 is a better amount to have.

This poster is very wise.. One thing everyone should be aware of is as the kids get older they tend to add more and more kids to a roster. In fact sometimes there are as many as 23 in a pool of players and players wont even get the invite to play every game. Unless this was a develoment academy type situation, we would find a place where our kid would play. Lifes too short!

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Really? A half a sentence about each game, then a one paragraph prediction of the State Cup and he's accused of "over analyzing"?? This is not my kid's age group but I wish we had this kind of "over analyzing" for her age.

No, don't get me wrong, it's fun to analyze games and would agree with doing some analyzing during the fall league. However, my daughter and I went to watch her friends play during the FCP Vs. BSC match. Her friends play on the 'white' team...the team fielded was entirely made up of 'white' players. So in this case it wasn't a 'navy' team, they appeared to have 'swapped' games. Apparently, navy plays BSC in the first game of the State Cup. So instead of playing the same team in back to back matches they let girls play differing teams or 'white' played both, and Navy did a friendly... I don't know as I didn't go to the other match. So again, I wouldn't over analyze spring.... bigger clubs are moving kids around, varying their play, and lineups, etc. In essence, developing. It was still a good win for 'white' who finished 4th or 5th in D1 to beat BSC that won 1st Division.... unless of course BSC was moving girls around......... :)

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Really?

This poster is very wise.. One thing everyone should be aware of is as the kids get older they tend to add more and more kids to a roster. In fact sometimes there are as many as 23 in a pool of players and players wont even get the invite to play every game. Unless this was a develoment academy type situation, we would find a place where our kid would play. Lifes too short!

The maximum roster size for older players has been, and I believe still is, 22. The max for younger ages is 18. Where did you get the 23 from, your doggy? Find a team that meets the level of your child's ability, and play there. Just don't ask for fewer players so your kid can play. It is about development and competition, not so everyone can feel good. The worst games of my player's youth soccer was playing so short handed that they had 2-3 subs, with the balance of the roster injured or sick. Life is too short to make absolute statements about anything, particularly soccer teams. Deal with it.

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How about 26 player rosters in the OPL? Rule V.c.

http://www.oregonpremierleague.com/d...ue%20Rules.pdf

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State Cup

OK there has been some predictions but lets get some serious talk going - if you are going to say there is going to be an upset of the top 4 - LO, EMFC, THUSC or FC please explain why beyond the usual babble. I don't see an upset - if there is going to be an upset I think that FC is on the shaky ground. Here is my ranking:

EMFC - best team in the bracket
THUSC - defense leads them - against the bottom 6 goals are easy will see how they score in Semi's
LO - athletic will be interesting to see if they can beat our EMFC for top spot
FC - just nto clicking right now
Rush - athletic - might surprise some teams
BSC - great final weekend result - will see if they can carry it over to state cup
ESUFC - good defensively - if they can find some goals
WSM - overall not there yet - but there time is coming - much improvement over last year
Southside - not seeing enough improvement against top teams
RVSC - don't know much about them - maybe I have underestimated them

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How about 26 player rosters in the OPL? Rule V.c.

http://www.oregonpremierleague.com/d...ue%20Rules.pdf

Don't confuse these parents who love 18+ sized rosters with facts. To them, development occurs when their kids sit and watch from the bench.

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OK there has been some predictions but lets get some serious talk going - if you are going to say there is going to be an upset of the top 4 - LO, EMFC, THUSC or FC please explain why beyond the usual babble. I don't see an upset - if there is going to be an upset I think that FC is on the shaky ground. Here is my ranking:

EMFC - best team in the bracket
THUSC - defense leads them - against the bottom 6 goals are easy will see how they score in Semi's
LO - athletic will be interesting to see if they can beat our EMFC for top spot
FC - just nto clicking right now
Rush - athletic - might surprise some teams
BSC - great final weekend result - will see if they can carry it over to state cup
ESUFC - good defensively - if they can find some goals
WSM - overall not there yet - but there time is coming - much improvement over last year
Southside - not seeing enough improvement against top teams
RVSC - don't know much about them - maybe I have underestimated them

Definitely match of the upcoming weekend is LO vs EMFC. They haven't met each other the spring and both seem to be doing very well. I think it could go either way as they are both strong enough to beat each other on any given day. Slight edge to EMFC (2-1) given their history playing each other; plus home game for EMFC.

I do think RVSC will be stronger than expected and it will help that they have some home games. I don't think they will make it out of their tough bracket but they will get some points.

THUSC vs FC will be the match to watch the following weekend. Again, could go either way. FC seems to move White and Navy players a fair amount between teams in the spring so spring results may not be representative of Navy's abilities. I'm calling for FC upsetting THUSC in a 1-0 match.

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OK there has been some predictions but lets get some serious talk going - if you are going to say there is going to be an upset of the top 4 - LO, EMFC, THUSC or FC please explain why beyond the usual babble. I don't see an upset - if there is going to be an upset I think that FC is on the shaky ground. Here is my ranking:

EMFC - best team in the bracket
THUSC - defense leads them - against the bottom 6 goals are easy will see how they score in Semi's
LO - athletic will be interesting to see if they can beat our EMFC for top spot
FC - just nto clicking right now
Rush - athletic - might surprise some teams
BSC - great final weekend result - will see if they can carry it over to state cup
ESUFC - good defensively - if they can find some goals
WSM - overall not there yet - but there time is coming - much improvement over last year
Southside - not seeing enough improvement against top teams
RVSC - don't know much about them - maybe I have underestimated them

I saw multiple games and by far:
EMFC is the team to beat... I would ride this horse to the final.
LO will be tough and will finish near the top
THUSC Looked mediocre during a FCP 'White' game... at best go to the semi's
FCP navy As stated earlier they swapped their last game with White. Beat Wusc 2-0 on cruse control... They won't win but will be up there.
RUSH- will beat the D1 teams but not break a top 5 team
BSC play FCP's 'White' team and lost.....Remember FCP W & N switched games. Unless they sandbagged it... they are not going anywhere.
ESUFC - agreed.
WSM- Much better.. but still bottom of premier, top of D1 though.
Southside - went from premier last year to D1 and getting worse. Won't win a game in cup
RVSC - Gritty team, that is athletic and might get a win over a lower tier team. Played very well in D1 and if they didn't have to travel and play 2 or 3 games a weekend might have won D1.

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Definitely match of the upcoming weekend is LO vs EMFC. They haven't met each other the spring and both seem to be doing very well. I think it could go either way as they are both strong enough to beat each other on any given day. Slight edge to EMFC (2-1) given their history playing each other; plus home game for EMFC.

I do think RVSC will be stronger than expected and it will help that they have some home games. I don't think they will make it out of their tough bracket but they will get some points.

THUSC vs FC will be the match to watch the following weekend. Again, could go either way. FC seems to move White and Navy players a fair amount between teams in the spring so spring results may not be representative of Navy's abilities. I'm calling for FC upsetting THUSC in a 1-0 match.

FC may be the team that gets upset. The draw is weak, so they may make it to the Semi unless Eastside can pull off the upset.

With all of the roster swiching and the pool system, there is no team chemistry and they do not play too well as a team. I have not heard of too many positives about FC's pool system.

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I saw multiple games and by far:
EMFC is the team to beat... I would ride this horse to the final.
LO will be tough and will finish near the top
THUSC Looked mediocre during a FCP 'White' game... at best go to the semi's
FCP navy As stated earlier they swapped their last game with White. Beat Wusc 2-0 on cruse control... They won't win but will be up there.
RUSH- will beat the D1 teams but not break a top 5 team
BSC play FCP's 'White' team and lost.....Remember FCP W & N switched games. Unless they sandbagged it... they are not going anywhere.
ESUFC - agreed.
WSM- Much better.. but still bottom of premier, top of D1 though.
Southside - went from premier last year to D1 and getting worse. Won't win a game in cup
RVSC - Gritty team, that is athletic and might get a win over a lower tier team. Played very well in D1 and if they didn't have to travel and play 2 or 3 games a weekend might have won D1.

Based on your comments, you are an idiot parent on FC PDX White team. THUSC should make it to the finals. If they play LO they should win. It will be tough to beat Eugene.