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    A request for coaches

    If you want to trash some of the players from tryouts, please don't do it loudly in a public restaurant while wearing your club gear. It's also not appropriate for you to name players by name-first and last-and their perceived shortcomings to other club parents.

    Yes, this happened in a local restaurant, by one of the coaches from one of the OPL founding member teams. This coach apparently has not heard of the word discretion. Why would someone name players by first and last name for the whole restaurant to hear? And why would you discuss those things with other team parents? The contempt with which he spoke about certain players made me wonder how he talks to his team when they are on the field. I also had to wonder if the parents listening to the diatribe were thinking, "Does he talk about my kid like this to other parents?"

    My child does not play for this club (though did several years ago) and if I was still a parent there, I'd have a little chat with the DOC. Due to circumstances, was not able to go say anything to this coach at the time, but wish I could have.

    If you really feel the need to trash teenage players, don't do it by name in a public place.

    #2
    hmmmmm

    OK then.....

    Thanks for the info.....

    Thanks God there are only 4,000 restaurants in the Portland area that this might have happened.

    Why start a thread with so little to go on.

    It is easy to agree that bad behavior should not be tolerated.

    End of story.

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      #3
      i didn't name the restaurant or the team because it's irrelevant. The point is that the coaches should use discretion when talking about players. It isn't necessary to name players by first and last names to trash them when you're wearing identifying club gear.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        OK then.....

        Thanks for the info.....

        Thanks God there are only 4,000 restaurants in the Portland area that this might have happened.

        Why start a thread with so little to go on.

        It is easy to agree that bad behavior should not be tolerated.

        End of story.
        Isn't the point that the specifics don't matter.

        If you are a coach and you have found yourself in a public place discussing the shortcomings of a player with anyone other than your staff or their parents, don't.

        If you feel like this may apply to you, you should stop doing this. It doesn't matter who specifically the offender was, if you have done this also and weren't "caught" allow your conscience to tell you to stop. Don't just keep pushing the envelope until someone catches you.

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          #5
          hhhmmm

          The point is that zero Coaches read this blog or care about it. Information is needed so that the parents who do read this blog can use that information to decide on what coaches they let their kids play for this year or next year.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The point is that zero Coaches read this blog or care about it. Information is needed so that the parents who do read this blog can use that information to decide on what coaches they let their kids play for this year or next year.
            I would never recommend forming an opinion on a coach or club based on the opinions on here. You have no idea who is stating them or even if it's more than one person. If you are interested in a coach then I suggest you take your child to some practices, talk to the parents of players on the team, and talk to the coach.

            I agree that the coaches name does not need to be put in this post.

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              #7
              hmmmm

              Agree to a certain point.

              What is the point of the thread then, which was my point. Asking coaches directlyto improve their behavior on this blog who will never read it is pointless. Yikes, did I just write that.

              Great idea, wrong place to do it. Go directly to the DOC or the Coach.

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                #8
                How do you know if any parents of that club were even there? Yes, poor form by the coach, but also seems more like making a mountain out of a molehill. If this coach is trash talking players in public, my guess is that he has other issues and won't be a coach for long. Problem solved.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tieyourshoes View Post
                  If you want to trash some of the players from tryouts, please don't do it loudly in a public restaurant while wearing your club gear. It's also not appropriate for you to name players by name-first and last-and their perceived shortcomings to other club parents.

                  Yes, this happened in a local restaurant, by one of the coaches from one of the OPL founding member teams. This coach apparently has not heard of the word discretion. Why would someone name players by first and last name for the whole restaurant to hear? And why would you discuss those things with other team parents? The contempt with which he spoke about certain players made me wonder how he talks to his team when they are on the field. I also had to wonder if the parents listening to the diatribe were thinking, "Does he talk about my kid like this to other parents?"

                  My child does not play for this club (though did several years ago) and if I was still a parent there, I'd have a little chat with the DOC. Due to circumstances, was not able to go say anything to this coach at the time, but wish I could have.

                  If you really feel the need to trash teenage players, don't do it by name in a public place.
                  Well, it really isn't surprising. My child played for one of the founding OPL clubs and the coach was verbally abusive and down right insulting to my child as well as a couple of others and has continued to bully certain players.

                  And for those who might say that my child was sensitive. No, my child grew up at this club had other "hard" coaches who would yell in my child's face but never would personnally attack my child or any other player. Plus, as parents we certainally aren't the pampering/babying type.

                  Coaches who bully are simply that a bully. Coaches who badmouth players in public have major issues and it won't stop until they are called out on it and made to change.

                  A good coach should NEVER have to insult or demean a player to get what they want. It has been a hard road for my child in dealing with the coach for 12 months. The only time the coach ever spoke to my child was to pick and have negative comments. The rest of the time he acted as if my child didn't exist, going as far as being the only player coming off the field who he didn't talk to. It's really obvious, no hand slap, no eye contact. My child really was hurt and has now taken a "break" from club soccer.

                  The saddest part is that this coach is a well respected coach even outside of youth soccer.

                  In the small chance a coach does read this forum, your interactions and words mean more to kids then you can possibly imagine and fear doesn't = respect.

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                    #10
                    ......my child grew up at this club had other "hard" coaches who would yell in my child's face.


                    There maybe some parental control needed?

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                      #11
                      Free Speech and tact

                      Everyone who lives in this great country is entitled to their own opionions-whether they are a well respected coach or an obsessed Soccer Parent.

                      Being human makes us imperfect by design and DNA.

                      When someone is acting in a manner you 'feel' inappropriate in your listening range, be an adult and confront them-communicate.

                      Or go cry about it on an anonymous forum as an anonymous poster.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tieyourshoes View Post
                        If you want to trash some of the players from tryouts, please don't do it loudly in a public restaurant while wearing your club gear. It's also not appropriate for you to name players by name-first and last-and their perceived shortcomings to other club parents.

                        Yes, this happened in a local restaurant, by one of the coaches from one of the OPL founding member teams. This coach apparently has not heard of the word discretion. Why would someone name players by first and last name for the whole restaurant to hear? And why would you discuss those things with other team parents? The contempt with which he spoke about certain players made me wonder how he talks to his team when they are on the field. I also had to wonder if the parents listening to the diatribe were thinking, "Does he talk about my kid like this to other parents?"

                        My child does not play for this club (though did several years ago) and if I was still a parent there, I'd have a little chat with the DOC. Due to circumstances, was not able to go say anything to this coach at the time, but wish I could have.

                        If you really feel the need to trash teenage players, don't do it by name in a public place.
                        Most DOCs have their email on their club's website.

                        Why don't you do everyone a favor and email the DOC and tell him the actions of one of his coaches. You don't even have to name the coach. Hopefully the DOC will send out a notice to his coaching staff. Do it for the kids.

                        The reality is there are many coaches who are very immature and need to be reminded that although the job only pays $400 a month, they do need to act like a professional.

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                          #13
                          People-

                          You need to realize something. There are coaches out who will forever get away with whatever because of who they are. It doesn't matter that they don't abide by positive coaching alliance guidelines or that they belittle and bully players.

                          I know of a situation where a DOC has been contacted regarding the same coach about the same kind of issue over and over. Things never changed and the coach is still there-still acting the same way.

                          You may think that because you pay for your children to train/play soccer that your concerns somehow have some power. LOL!!!!

                          The only power you have is to remove your child from the situation.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Most DOCs have their email on their club's website.

                            Why don't you do everyone a favor and email the DOC and tell him the actions of one of his coaches. You don't even have to name the coach. Hopefully the DOC will send out a notice to his coaching staff. Do it for the kids.

                            The reality is there are many coaches who are very immature and need to be reminded that although the job only pays $400 a month, they do need to act like a professional.
                            $400 a month? lol this must be an LO coach. Most Oregon coaches get about 100-200 a month. Let's be real.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              $400 a month? lol this must be an LO coach. Most Oregon coaches get about 100-200 a month. Let's be real.
                              If you are a coach and only getting 100-200 a month then you need to do a better job negotiating.

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