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    #76
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. I actually said in my post that you responded to that it was not about rochelle...I said nothing about THUSC. I said CLUB coaches. I stand by it. ODP was also a debacle with the "dad" at the age group. I write my letters, but without accountability or some ethics, none of it will change.
    LOL I take it back, I said THUSC is notorious..

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      #77
      The post the person responded to did mention thusc and even stated that thusc was notorious for it. Maybe it wasn't your post they responded to.

      I agree that this is a club wide thing and should be changed. To blame only one club is just nonsense.

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        #78
        My daughter is not from WSM or THUSC.

        Rochelle has been open to training and working with my daughter.

        Every local coach is going to have some club or high school affiliation, so there is always a potential conflict.

        It is okay to attack the system, but I don't think it is right to attack the coach or to a certain extent the club at which the coach is employed.

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          #79
          Just who is it that you do file a complaint with? That is so funny. Everyone on here knows that there is no accountability with any club or any coach. Not only is there no accountability, there isn't really anyone who cares to hear parental concerns or opinions. It comes down to "if you don't like it... then don't do it".

          It is easy to tell that is not a good option.

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            #80
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Just who is it that you do file a complaint with? That is so funny. Everyone on here knows that there is no accountability with any club or any coach. Not only is there no accountability, there isn't really anyone who cares to hear parental concerns or opinions. It comes down to "if you don't like it... then don't do it".

            It is easy to tell that is not a good option.
            I think it's a great opportunity for the kids. Hugo will have the final say in all of it. The more chances the kids get to been seen the better.

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              #81
              liar

              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              well it is a conflict of interest. she is coaching the same age group for ODP and club and that should never happen. she has already tried to recruit Usonians to play for thusc and i just don't think that's appropriate. it's better they have another coach in there.
              Your statement is an absolute outright lie.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Your statement is an absolute outright lie.
                We won't be having this discussion if the club coach in question got involved in the try outs on the boys side. It's more appropriate and nobody can say that the process is biased. In the future if and when a club coach is helping in ODP or ID2 try-outs, they should only be able to evaluate older or younger or opposite gender of the kids they are coaching. For example, if the coach's own team is U15G then he/she will say evaluate U13B or U17B.

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                  #83
                  Not The First Time

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  well it is a conflict of interest. she is coaching the same age group for ODP and club and that should never happen. she has already tried to recruit Usonians to play for thusc and i just don't think that's appropriate. it's better they have another coach in there.
                  It is not the first time she had been accused of recruiting from ODP.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It is not the first time she had been accused of recruiting from ODP.
                    WHAT! A THUSC coach recruiting? Say it isn't so! Isn't that what they do? They can't develop players on their own so they look/recruit players from other clubs. It is on going with THUSC and everyone is well aware of it. It is just so funny that it is every coach within their organization and it is non stop!

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      WHAT! A THUSC coach recruiting? Say it isn't so! Isn't that what they do? They can't develop players on their own so they look/recruit players from other clubs. It is on going with THUSC and everyone is well aware of it. It is just so funny that it is every coach within their organization and it is non stop!
                      This statement proves what I was thinking when I read it, you're an idiot.

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                        #86
                        Not a THUSC parent, but my daughter was approached by FC, and WS this past season to join their club. We decided to stay Eastside for now. Crazy, but it happens with all clubs. It's a competitve soccer thing, not restricted to one club.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Not a THUSC parent, but my daughter was approached by FC, and WS this past season to join their club. We decided to stay Eastside for now. Crazy, but it happens with all clubs. It's a competitve soccer thing, not restricted to one club.
                          As was my daughter too. But the difference was that the coaches approached us off the field. If coaches are at a training center or ODP or any other all comers event, then it seems inappropriate of them to use that venue to recruit. Now if a kid comes over and practices with the team or goes to a camp sponsored by a Club, then that is different.

                          It would be like an NBA coach coaching the Olympic basketball team and using that time to try to recruit would be free agents to his NBA team. The fact that this practice is wrong is the reason the NBA has rules preventing it. In youth soccer, there really isn't a governing body and a way to enforce a rule, so instead it would be nice if coaches just realized the inappropriateness of this and helf themselves to that standard.

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                            #88
                            Still a lie

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            As was my daughter too. But the difference was that the coaches approached us off the field. If coaches are at a training center or ODP or any other all comers event, then it seems inappropriate of them to use that venue to recruit. Now if a kid comes over and practices with the team or goes to a camp sponsored by a Club, then that is different.

                            It would be like an NBA coach coaching the Olympic basketball team and using that time to try to recruit would be free agents to his NBA team. The fact that this practice is wrong is the reason the NBA has rules preventing it. In youth soccer, there really isn't a governing body and a way to enforce a rule, so instead it would be nice if coaches just realized the inappropriateness of this and helf themselves to that standard.
                            It is still a lie that she is using her time with these other groups like ODP, US Training center to approach players, total lie. There are two many kids around and people would hear, stop picking on Rochelle (not this poster, the previous posters), she does a great deal for Oregon soccer and doesn't deserve this. I think you are right though, kids do like her and then show up for a practice or tryout, there is nothing wrong with that.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              It is still a lie that she is using her time with these other groups like ODP, US Training center to approach players, total lie. There are two many kids around and people would hear, stop picking on Rochelle (not this poster, the previous posters), she does a great deal for Oregon soccer and doesn't deserve this. I think you are right though, kids do like her and then show up for a practice or tryout, there is nothing wrong with that.
                              Whatever the reality of the coaches actions, it would be better to avoid any suggestion of a conflict of interest. From all that has been said on here she must be a very talented coach. There is no reason for the purpose of the training center she couldn't coach a boys team. This avoids all appearance of any conflict of interest.

                              When she is coaching at the training center she does not represent her club, she represents the training center. If she refuses to coach boys or a different age group, it suggests that she may have ulterior motives. Again make it easy, avoid the issue all together.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Whatever the reality of the coaches actions, it would be better to avoid any suggestion of a conflict of interest. From all that has been said on here she must be a very talented coach. There is no reason for the purpose of the training center she couldn't coach a boys team. This avoids all appearance of any conflict of interest.

                                When she is coaching at the training center she does not represent her club, she represents the training center. If she refuses to coach boys or a different age group, it suggests that she may have ulterior motives. Again make it easy, avoid the issue all together.
                                I am the author of post 87, just so it is known.

                                I disagree with the conflict of interest. If she is not actively recruiting, then I don't see harm in a club coach being involved. If she could coach an age group or gender of kids that she doesn't currently coach, then that would probably be better, but if she coaches U14 club and U14 ODP and .... then it's not necessarily a conflict of interest for recruiting purposes. As to her assessments of kids making a team or continuing on in a program, there certainly could be a conflict of interest and I would hope that she would be professional and unbiased in her assessments.

                                My daughter has not opted to try out for ODP nor has she, nor any of her teammates as far as I can tell, been nominated for training center. I don't know why the latter has occurred since I am sure there are a few players who should be reviewed. In due time I suppose.

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