Originally posted by Unregistered
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Peoples reactions change when you start to lose. The DOC becomes an ASS, and they are to blame for everything. While teams are winning, parents seem to let all the inappropriate behavior, arrogance and the way their child is treated, be accepted for the sake of winning. That is a disgrace. I have seen one DOC give horrible nick names to players, but, that team is winning, so nothing is said. We have to be there for the players. Make sure they see respect on the sidelines, at practice / games. This forum does not help. We have to use it to share our views, but in the right way. Just think when you are typing, how ridiculous it is to go off on somebody or some team. Concentrate on your own club, your child and whether they are having a good experience and being taught right from wrong, plus, learning this beautiful game. -
What do you mean by "horrible nick names"?
I am sure that the parents would have stepped if it was a bad situation....Comment
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Would it be so hard...
Even as a non-Thusc parent I agree with that. Perhaps we could end the bashing all together and have a mature discussion. Although I suspect under those expectations this board would lose nearly half of it's participants. In fact it would probably lose all of the non-registered participants.Originally posted by SodiumFan[2] View PostComment
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That was my first thought as well. And I don't care if our team is having a winning or a loosing season, a "horrible nick name" is never acceptable. Can you tell us what the nick names were?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Doesn't John Bain and Fraser both coach teams? Seems like every DOC coaches teams. Why point out Tom only?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Vast Difference
Fraser if the DOC for LO and answers to his board. Bain is the Director of Soccer Operations at WSM and answers to his board. Tom is Executive Director and DOC, does that not imply he runs THUSC and does not answer to the board and therefore has free reign? Also the perception of Bain and Fraser are much different in the soccer community.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Three things;Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
you never said if either Bain or Fraser coached a team (the initial question), you just jumped into who they answered to. Secondly, doesn't Tom answer to a BOD a well? Thirdly, why do care so much about Tom?Comment
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Yes he answers to the BOD as well. He has a wonderful reputation in the community. Only people that say he doesn't are typically those who were cut.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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SERIOUSLY....the only people that challenge are payers that got cut? This is one conceded parent(s)/team to think that way. Such a shame that there is only about a few more years for some people to gloat on their daughter...lolOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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From an inside view of the club:Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
1st sentence = true
2nd sentence = false (who are you talking to?)
3rd sentence = false (again who are you talking to?)Comment
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Based on your answers I'm pretty sure I know who you are. You have a reputation for not liking Tom and I would expect nothing less from you. There is a chance Tom may coach your daughter next year so I would suggest that you change clubs. I personally would never be at a club where I don't respect the DOC.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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That depends. What if your from a club that the DOC is never seen and has nothing to do with your team ?Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
You might just dislike him/her for just not being there and there's nothing you can do to fix it. Yet you you like the coach and the results he/she has given your player.
Some DOC's are so transparent, your not even sure if they are still employed by the club.Comment
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Ain't that the truth. Our DOC is MIA. As a matter of fact we see the name in print, but wouldn't know the face.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Unbelievable. For me, I would prefer a DOC who was out front and communicated their opinions and goals for the club presently and in the future. At least that way the rest of us would have something to gauge his/her success on. Did they do what they said they were going to do? Did they meet the goals they set for the club? (if not, why not?) But to have people involved in the club who have never seen him/her? Unacceptable.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I would beat that in more cases than not, the club is not truly being managed like a business. Its board is made up of players mom's and dad's that are there only for the benefit of their player and move on once theyve left the club. They create policies and programs that work mainly on a continuing basis of increasing membership (revenue dollars) and an expansion of it's successes through forums like this.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
When was the last time a club in our area went a coaching recruitment spree ? Stuck their checkbook on the line to acquire the very best there was to offer both in our area and from afar ? Who was the last coach to move to our area because of a coaching job offer from a club here ?
We have all seen the successes lately of the recent additions, but were they sought after to do just that ? or did they land here from "other" opportunities outside the soccer world first or just return home after college ?
At least at our club, the DOC is more of a club (puppet) manager, taking orders directly from the BOD's that set policy, direction and steer from the rear seat. I'm hoping they don't pay him a lot of money cause they aren't getting much in return as far as management skills from what we "dont" see of him.
I guess I view a DOC as one that holds coaching clinics for rec coaches more then once a year (build from the bottom up), discusses coaching styles with their subordinate classic coaches (before and after each weekends games) to discuss results and changes if necessary and fills in when a coach cannot be in attendance at a practice or game.
They should be setting some sort of goal for each team/coach to ensure that as many players as possible reach the next level of play, either individually or as a team and that goal should be stated to the parents of that team so that some sort of measurement can be reviewed at any time.
They should have some sort of pulse from each classic team under their wings, so that if there is a riff brewing (and we all know this happens everywhere), they can be contacted by their members directly and work quickly to resolve things. (Open Door Policy)
If they are going to recommend a player for some advance training or camp, they should attend more then one training session and be actively involved in it, so that when they put their name on the form, they truly can say they are worthy of it, not just taking the word of the over zealous coach trying to put another notch in their gun belt.
They should be constantly striving to get their older players into the top level tourneys where that team will do it's best in front of as many college coaches or recruiters as possible and offer to parents lists of college coaches they have contact with. To discuss with the players individually (and with the parents) about colleges looking for players and their further interests.
If the player wants to play in college or is working to seek a college scholarship, that DOC should be working to help achieve that goal at all times and stay in constant communications with the family. If the player isn't, then identify what their next step is and move on.
Did I miss anything important ? Probably !!!! But this what I see as an important virtue of the position they hold.
When was the last time you were contacted directly by the DOC at your club and asked of your opinion or comments ?Comment
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