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    #31
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    I believe both FCW and EMFC are strong clubs. Look at the U17 FCW Pursuit and the EMFC Spirit Teams. Very equal in strength and talent. Two Pursuit players moving to Spirit means little - there were two additions to Pursuit this last year and they are both very athletic and talented players (from other clubs? rec soccer?) Anyway, I've watched both teams over the years, and look forward to seeing what happens in the 2011 season.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I believe both FCW and EMFC are strong clubs. Look at the U17 FCW Pursuit and the EMFC Spirit Teams. Very equal in strength and talent. Two Pursuit players moving to Spirit means little - there were two additions to Pursuit this last year and they are both very athletic and talented players (from other clubs? rec soccer?) Anyway, I've watched both teams over the years, and look forward to seeing what happens in the 2011 season.
      I heard 4 players moved to emfc from fcw and that the pursuit goalie also tried out but not rosted. Hope you're right and the pursuit stays competitive. The problem is not lack of talent but lack of commitment. Spirit has stronger tournament plans (showcases) and definitely stronger training schedules than Pursuit.

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        #33
        FCW has (had?) two very strong goalies and a third backup, so losing one shouldn't be much of a problem.
        Rowney maintains a fantastic training program as does EMFC. A committed soccer player can't go wrong with either team. Good problem for the Willamette Valley to have.
        I don't get the point of having a kid on a team over 100 miles away. Stage parents?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          FCW has (had?) two very strong goalies and a third backup, so losing one shouldn't be much of a problem.
          Rowney maintains a fantastic training program as does EMFC. A committed soccer player can't go wrong with either team. Good problem for the Willamette Valley to have.
          I don't get the point of having a kid on a team over 100 miles away. Stage parents?
          Are you talking about driving to Bend to train when there are two good teams with great coaches in Eugene and Corvallis? I agree... crazy decision.

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            #35
            drama . . .

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              #36
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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Are you talking about driving to Bend to train when there are two good teams with great coaches in Eugene and Corvallis? I agree... crazy decision.
              Traveling from the valley or central Oregon to the metro area... dedicated or crazy, who knows?

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                #37
                [QUOTE=Unregistered;380095]Traveling from the valley or central Oregon to the metro area... dedicated or crazy, who knows?[/QUOTE

                Are you more dedicated if you travel once a week from Eugene to train with a Portland team than training 2-3 times per week with a local team that is strong and has good coaching? Every parent tries to make decisions that make sense for their kids, but sometimes the logic is hard to follow. Maybe emotions (drama?) are at play instead.

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                  #38
                  A lot of movement.....but if your child is as great as player as the parent wishes to believe........coaches can find them very easily. Its one thing to move a player to increase the development.....but to move them to a show boat team and travel across state is insane.

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                    #39
                    What if there is a players or players who want to play at a big D1 school and their local teams cannot get into Surf Cup and the other major showcase tournaments that all the big D1 schools attend...

                    What are they meant to do?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      What if there is a players or players who want to play at a big D1 school and their local teams cannot get into Surf Cup and the other major showcase tournaments that all the big D1 schools attend...

                      What are they meant to do?
                      A couple of things: Write introductory letters to the coaches, and attend desired colleges ID camps.

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                        #41
                        Yea, traveling from corvallis to Bend for practices is a big undertaking and that player will always be the outsider.

                        You have a very good team in Eugene that has just become stronger. Only about 5 girls remain on the Eugene team from a few years ago. With 5 rostered ODP players the problem they have now is the NWCL/ODP conflict.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          A couple of things: Write introductory letters to the coaches, and attend desired colleges ID camps.
                          Do you know the cost to attend a couple of college ID camps out of state? We are talking thousands of dollars. Not to mention the fact that a lot of D1 camps are run in the same two week period each summer. So if you are looking at several schools this is an impossible task.

                          You can write all the letters/emails you like to coaches but they only attend a certain amount of events each year to watch players. If you have no chance of being at these events how are you meant to be seen by them?

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Do you know the cost to attend a couple of college ID camps out of state? We are talking thousands of dollars. Not to mention the fact that a lot of D1 camps are run in the same two week period each summer. So if you are looking at several schools this is an impossible task.

                            You can write all the letters/emails you like to coaches but they only attend a certain amount of events each year to watch players. If you have no chance of being at these events how are you meant to be seen by them?
                            These are very good points from somebody that clearly understands how the whole college process works. The cost to do the college camps is very expensive.

                            If you are on a club team that is going to go to Surf Cup, Vegas Showcase etc then you are giving yourself the chance of getting seen by many schools both D1 and D2. This is why some make the choice to play for clubs which may be a considerable drive away from their local area.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              These are very good points from somebody that clearly understands how the whole college process works. The cost to do the college camps is very expensive.

                              If you are on a club team that is going to go to Surf Cup, Vegas Showcase etc then you are giving yourself the chance of getting seen by many schools both D1 and D2. This is why some make the choice to play for clubs which may be a considerable drive away from their local area.
                              Well, that's the answer then. But, my question would be: is the cost of playing for an out of area club, for the purpose of possibly attending a couple of tournaments a year, for the possible chance to be seen (and to have played well and made an impression that day, or game) by said colleges less expensive than a couple of trips to ID camps? Just wondering...

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Well, that's the answer then. But, my question would be: is the cost of playing for an out of area club, for the purpose of possibly attending a couple of tournaments a year, for the possible chance to be seen (and to have played well and made an impression that day, or game) by said colleges less expensive than a couple of trips to ID camps? Just wondering...
                                Well you are looking at $650 without flights for a College ID residential camp out of state. So i guess it depends on how many you want to do?! As a previous poster mentioned a lot of camps are right around the same time so you would have to choose between schools.

                                Let us remember that at somewhere like Surf Cup and Vegas you are getting at least three games so players have the chance to be seen by coaches several times. Each age group at Surf plays at similar times to make it easy for college coaches to watch mulitple games in that age.

                                The sad reality is that the 'big' schools do not attend the likes of the Tacoma Showcase, FC Portland showcase etc despite what people may think. Oregon and OSU were not there at Tacoma this year for example and it isn't a long trip for those coaches.

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