OCYS Consolidated Thread

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Nice diversion attempt, but you missed the point (again).

If no one wants to prevent OC from providing whatever program they want, then what does this mean, "Use of the 14 proposed fields for Orlando City Soccer to run these programs is not needed and in fact makes no sense. Children that qualify for these programs are underprivileged and will be unable to travel to a remote field away from school to play during the 5-7pm evening hours. These programs, if implemented, should be held on school grounds and existing clubs within 15 miles of the schools should be given the opportunity to provide these programs." So it isn't just about the access to the fields. Your club, and the other clubs in the Coalition, have gone on record and said that they don't even want OC to provide a program at the local schools (because you say it violates the 15 mile rule). If OC wants to implement such a program, you want to be paid to run it yourself (so you want to profit off of it).

So as I said, you cite FYSA rules when it suits you. The 15 mile rule doesn't matter when you break it, but it doesn't matter when you say OC breaks it.

Keep beatin' that horse all you want- but here's what matters:

-OCYS presented a "plan" that included the county granting OCYS exclusive use of fields during prime times.

-Nine Clubs in The Coalition objected to the plan, and the County Commission agreed.

-Phil tucked tail and ran.

But by all means, keep arguing as long as you'd like.

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Back atcha, Big Guy:

You're bringing in new coaches. Is that what you are saying? And why wait until after try-outs? Go ahead and post your new coaches and teams. Might help you bring more kids out to try-outs.

The reason is you have no new coaches. You will continue to spin on TS right up until try-outs and then you will admit that it is only The Gypsy, The Pool Boy, The Dumpster Arsonist, Half-wit and the assorted Laddies again in 2014-15.

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It seems the misjudgement made by Phil and the Directorate was their adoption of the European youth development model. This was also attempted at other US clubs and was a failure. Pay-to-play model involves too many adults and it causes all kinds of problems when making decisions on coaches, trainers, etc. In the UK, I don't think parents would be tracking a coaches Facebook posts and trying to get him fired because he had some wet t-shirt pictures. You can see more on page 3 of The Sun. What Phil did not recognize is the infighting, politics and backstabbing would ensue in the pay-to-play world. In the European Academy model, the kids are all fully funded so the team is run professionally with no influence (or meddling) from the parents. In fact, kids are dropped at the gate. At Ajax, the parents sit in nice air-conditioned lounges enjoying lattes. A panel of glass separates them from their child at practice. No coaching from the sideline and definitely no walking up to the coach for a chat while on the field. It is more like our high school athletic atmosphere. The coaches are tenured and protected by the teacher's unions so they could care less about what a parent thinks about Mia's playing time.

So the solution would be to spin off the youth academy and all the little camps, clinics and development programs for U13 and under. Because of the club's relationship with MLS, they would be required to run DA on boy's side. If the club becomes an expansion franchise in NWSL, they would need to have ECNL as well. By doing this, you take the club rivalries out of Central Florida club scene because DA and ECNL play very few Florida teams. Right now OCYS has too much going on with FYSA as well as FPL in US Club Soccer. If they limited their youth program to DA and ECNL, most clubs would aspire to send their kids to OC try-outs so they could brag about having placed players on a pro club development program instead of claiming the club is poaching their players.

Now that Flavio is majority investor, perhaps they can run the youth program as an extension of the pro club with the intent to create development channels to the U23 and MLS teams. Please don't bring up your myopic opinions that cutting the rec and youth programs will cost OC money. Youth programs are run as non-profits and most lose money. The pro team might as well take control and look at youth development as an operating expense of the franchise. There you have it OC. I have just solved all your problems in two paragraphs. No need to thank me. I just want to see this ridiculous fighting between clubs stop and see everyone get on the team bandwagon for MLS and beyond.

I can assure you the Directorship will not be thanking you in any way. As to anyone's "myopic opinions" that OCYS needs the Purple and under (U-P?) teams as a funding vehicle- it seems that opinion squares with the actual conditions currently present. There is no other reason evident for OCYS to have the goal (as stated by Phil) of "10,000 youth members" than to create a funding resource to carry the "elite" expenses of the DA.

So, maybe Phil and Brazil are the "myopic" ones?

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Hey awesome- more resources to the DA, while the peasants pay the freight and get coached by the Usual Suspects... thanks for posting

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Guess he shut you the f--k up!!

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Any rumors what age groups new guys are coaching? ML going up to u16s I hear?

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DA and ECNL programs do not have a 15 mile rule.

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Guess he shut you the f--k up!!

I doubt he did shut him up, since these are DA coaches and the ones mentioned by the other person are coaching no DA or ECNL teams. Good on them for bringing in better coaches for the DA, but that only equals about what 2% of your club at the moment. How is OC helping the rest of us 98%.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1216961]Any rumors what age groups new guys are coaching? ML going up to u16s I hear

u16 DA or purple?

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Guess he shut you the f--k up!!

Actually, no. I posted in #7653:

..."the DA gets more coaches while the peasants pay the freight and get coached by the usual suspects"

The Laddies, the Gypsy, The Pool Boy, Halfwit and the Dumpster Arsonist... That's who coaches the U-P peasants.

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Guess he shut you the f--k up!!

Who are The Gypsy, The Pool Boy, The Dumpster Arsonist, Half-wit?

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ML is gone from DA..Breaking news!!!

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Actually, no. I posted in #7653:

..."the DA gets more coaches while the peasants pay the freight and get coached by the usual suspects"

The Laddies, the Gypsy, The Pool Boy, Halfwit and the Dumpster Arsonist... That's who coaches the U-P peasants.

"Orlando City SC announced today the hiring of former Elon University Men’s Soccer Head Coach Darren Powell and former University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Men’s Soccer Assistant Coach Jeff Negalha for the Orlando City Youth Soccer (OCYS) U.S. Soccer Development Academy (USSDA) program."

Orlando City SC is the pro club. DA is being funded by the pro club. These coaches are OCSC employees. If OCYS significantly raises their fees, they will lose players.

The fees for OCYS Academy U11 - U18 are similar to FKK's Select. Uniforms are more expensive, but it looks like you get more at OCYS. U11 - U18 Competitive Rec is the same as FKK. U9 - U10 Competitive Rec is $20 more expensive at OCYS per season. Little Lions Rec is cheaper than FKK's First Touch. U9 - U10 Academy at OCYS is more expensive. U7 - U10 in house rec is less expensive at OCYS. So it looks like a lot of the programs the "peasants" are in at OCYS are similar to or less expensive than the same programs at FKK. If the "peasants" at OCYS are helping fund DA, what are the "peasants" at FKK helping fund?

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Keep beatin' that horse all you want- but here's what matters:

-OCYS presented a "plan" that included the county granting OCYS exclusive use of fields during prime times.

-Nine Clubs in The Coalition objected to the plan, and the County Commission agreed.

-Phil tucked tail and ran.

But by all means, keep arguing as long as you'd like.

I'm not arguing. I'm stating facts. Your claim that no one wants to prevent OC from providing whatever program they want is incorrect. Nine Clubs in the Coalition objected to the OC proposal. They also objected to OC starting free soccer programs for underprivileged kids even if they are at local schools. Here is the quote again, since you keep forgetting what it says, "These programs, if implemented, should be held on school grounds and existing clubs within 15 miles of the schools should be given the opportunity to provide these programs." They are opposed to OC implementing a program at a school in the South OBT area, for example. The Coalition says that if such a program is implemented, they want to be paid to provide it.

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I doubt he did shut him up, since these are DA coaches and the ones mentioned by the other person are coaching no DA or ECNL teams. Good on them for bringing in better coaches for the DA, but that only equals about what 2% of your club at the moment. How is OC helping the rest of us 98%.

There are others?