OCYS Consolidated Thread

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another prediction! We'll file this one along with "they won't last until August (2013)" and "They won't be around for a second year" and "they'll never have more than 100 members" and "They'll never get player passes", and "they'll never get into State Cup", and "they'll never get into FPL", and "they'll never be at Central Winds"...

Keep 'em coming!

To the board members of FYSA, I submit to you the above statement as evidence in the case against FKK affiliation. Should you choose to accept their hollow case of Bithlo home fields then you deserve the continued flagrant disregard for the rules of FYSA and complete lack of respect for the board's decisions. The choice is yours. I can only tell you that if you think it was bad last year, wait until next year. FKK will make paper tigers out of all of you.

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another prediction! We'll file this one along with "they won't last until August (2013)" and "They won't be around for a second year" and "they'll never have more than 100 members" and "They'll never get player passes", and "they'll never get into State Cup", and "they'll never get into FPL", and "they'll never be at Central Winds"...

Keep 'em coming!

I Just visited Orlando City on Facebook and seems that fans feel used by OC front office. Some Fans have been ban for 12-18 months by PR for acting like holligans. Keep in mind the same PR encouraged fans to express themselves. Fans are revolting in large numbers. Seems they feel used. Does this surprise anyone?

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I Just visited Orlando City on Facebook and seems that fans feel used by OC front office. Some Fans have been ban for 12-18 months by PR for acting like holligans. Keep in mind the same PR encouraged fans to express themselves. Fans are revolting in large numbers. Seems they feel used. Does this surprise anyone?

You Ban us yet use us for FB post. Frankly at this moment I wish we had a second professional team to support in Orlando. I may head to Jacksonville. Tired of the games played at OC. This is more of a political front office move and personal vendetta then MLS or USL throwing down a sanction. I guess once you have what you want from us and from that sweat and cheers we get tossed aside. The big man on his mission. Steps on anyone along the way.

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To the board members of FYSA, I submit to you the above statement as evidence in the case against FKK affiliation. Should you choose to accept their hollow case of Bithlo home fields then you deserve the continued flagrant disregard for the rules of FYSA and complete lack of respect for the board's decisions. The choice is yours. I can only tell you that if you think it was bad last year, wait until next year. FKK will make paper tigers out of all of you.

Are you threatening fysa? Didn't you guys trick them into turning against FKK last year only to have the second review board throwing your false accusations out? Your top girls play US club and not fysa league. FKK sent two teams to southern regionals to represent florida fysa. So, at those point, OC is taking business away from fysa and there is no remote chance the OC second teams will even qualify for top fysa leagues.

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To the board members of FYSA, I submit to you the above statement as evidence in the case against FKK affiliation. Should you choose to accept their hollow case of Bithlo home fields then you deserve the continued flagrant disregard for the rules of FYSA and complete lack of respect for the board's decisions. The choice is yours. I can only tell you that if you think it was bad last year, wait until next year. FKK will make paper tigers out of all of you.

If you're trying to communicate to "the board members of FYSA", why are you doing it anonymously on Talking Soccer? Are you just not very smart? Apparently not, since you've never read the so-called 15 mile rule. Why not go look it up and try again?

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Are you threatening fysa? Didn't you guys trick them into turning against FKK last year only to have the second review board throwing your false accusations out? Your top girls play US club and not fysa league. FKK sent two teams to southern regionals to represent florida fysa. So, at those point, OC is taking business away from fysa and there is no remote chance the OC second teams will even qualify for top fysa leagues.

No. FCA and OC protested the FYSA affiliation under the 15-mile rule and FKK was denied affiliation. Do we need to post the minutes again? We should make it the header of every page because you Fkktards keep trying to rewrite history when it is on the FYSA site in black and white. They are board minutes loser. Not an opinion or a court case. It was a group of adults who have been involved in competitive soccer most of their lives and understood that FKK was trying to create a new club in OCYS backyard including using some of the same fields. It was overwhelming denial.

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If you're trying to communicate to "the board members of FYSA", why are you doing it anonymously on Talking Soccer? Are you just not very smart? Apparently not, since you've never read the so-called 15 mile rule. Why not go look it up and try again?

They all read TS and they denied 3 clubs affiliation last year due to protests filed under 15-mile rule. Again, with feeling, here are the minutes.

Central Florida Soccer Alliance – Joe Avallone and Tim Geltz spoke about the need
for soccer in the East Orange County area, growth plan, and local sponsorships. Craig
Pole and Greg Brick highlighted various issues including poaching charges,
deceptive practices and 15 mile rule. Chris Mills supported all OCYS arguments.
CFSA field location falls within 15 miles of Orlando City, not FC America. Denied
based on 15 mile rule.

So why don't you argue with them?

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They all read TS and they denied 3 clubs affiliation last year due to protests filed under 15-mile rule. Again, with feeling, here are the minutes.

Central Florida Soccer Alliance – Joe Avallone and Tim Geltz spoke about the need
for soccer in the East Orange County area, growth plan, and local sponsorships. Craig
Pole and Greg Brick highlighted various issues including poaching charges,
deceptive practices and 15 mile rule. Chris Mills supported all OCYS arguments.
CFSA field location falls within 15 miles of Orlando City, not FC America. Denied
based on 15 mile rule.

So why don't you argue with them?

Really, you're gonna post this crap again? You're been proven wrong over and over again. They were denied because OCBS objected to FKK being 14 miles away. There is no absolute 15 mile rule. It has to take a club to object. That would be OCBS. Just own it and quit hiding behind FYSA. How's that feel?

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Really, you're gonna post this crap again? You're been proven wrong over and over again. They were denied because OCBS objected to FKK being 14 miles away. There is no absolute 15 mile rule. It has to take a club to object. That would be OCBS. Just own it and quit hiding behind FYSA. How's that feel?

I love the FKKtard. There is no 15 mile rule? It is mentioned throughout the board minutes as the main reason clubs are denied affiliation. Yet you say there is no rule. I just posted it in black and white. Are you saying the secretary of the FYSA board incorrectly quoted their own rules? Denial ain't a river in Africa moron. Seriously, get some help.

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Page 32 or 2013-14 FYSA Bylaws and Rules

102.2 INITIAL AFFILIATION - Full Affiliate
.... In addition, no new affiliation may be granted if the new affiliate’s home field is within a fifteen (15) mile radius of an existing FYSA affiliate, unless the new affiliate obtains the support of all existing FYSA affiliates within the specified radius.

102.3 ... The FYSA office will notify all affiliates within a 15 mile radius and request that any objections be submitted to the office no later than seven (7) days prior to the next scheduled meeting of the EC/BOD. FYSA’s Vice President of Administration and Communication shall only present the completed applications at the next BOD or EC meeting.

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I love the FKKtard. There is no 15 mile rule? It is mentioned throughout the board minutes as the main reason clubs are denied affiliation. Yet you say there is no rule. I just posted it in black and white. Are you saying the secretary of the FYSA board incorrectly quoted their own rules? Denial ain't a river in Africa moron. Seriously, get some help.

15 mile rule only goes into effect if an existing club objects. I will ask you again. Who made the initial objection and who continues to object to this day. As mentioned in previous post,FKK wasn't denied strictly on the 15 mile rule. Rather it was enforced due to the hurt feelings and temper tantrums of OC. Let's just call it for what it is. As you mentioned in your initial post OC threw the kitchen sink at FKK to see what would stick. you know damn well if FKK was outside of the 15 mile rule, OC would still continue to fight tooth and nail to prevent the success of any club outside their own. Hell, u have proved that time after time. You can't hide. People know what goes on! What are so afraid of? You name calling here, your posts speak for themselves.

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15 mile rule only goes into effect if an existing club objects. I will ask you again. Who made the initial objection and who continues to object to this day. As mentioned in previous post,FKK wasn't denied strictly on the 15 mile rule. Rather it was enforced due to the hurt feelings and temper tantrums of OC. Let's just call it for what it is. As you mentioned in your initial post OC threw the kitchen sink at FKK to see what would stick. you know damn well if FKK was outside of the 15 mile rule, OC would still continue to fight tooth and nail to prevent the success of any club outside their own. Hell, u have proved that time after time. You can't hide. People know what goes on! What are so afraid of? You name calling here, your posts speak for themselves.

Can you read or is HM interpreting this for you? You have serious comprehension disorder known as FKK Parenthood. Read the damn bylaws and rules that I posted for your ignorant *****. It spells it out. It is not about a club "objecting" to the new affiliation, it is about gaining the support of clubs that already exist in the 15-mile radius. The FYSA reached out to OCYS and asked them if they supported this new affiliation. OCYS said no and then brought FCA along to the BOD meeting to explain why they would not support FKK's affiliation. Read the rule FKKtard. It starts out stating no club can affiliate if their home fields are within 15-mile radius of an existing FYSA affiliate. Do YOU know what that means? It means OCYS was there first. But HM did not see it that way. He felt he was there first with CFK and decided to challenge the rule. He knew OCYS was not going to support him starting a new club in OCYS backyard using the same fields OCYS plays on. Use you head for something beside a base for crushing beer cans dad. Getting existing affiliate support is an exception - not the rule. It is used in special cases when circumstances allow two teams to co-exist inside the radius but not poach from each other. A good example would be a club that maintains members must reside within city limits. A club may wish to affiliate that has home fields outside city limits but still within the 15-mile radius. If the outside club promises to not poach players from inside City limits, the existing club will support the new affiliate. So, if HM had promised to only recruit girls who live in Winter Park, he might have won the support of OCYS. Even if some of those girls were existing OCYS players, the club would know that there were boundaries to how far HM could recruit. In the spirit of "letting the girls play" OCYS would not have objected to HM reforming and starting a new affiliate. But OCYS had the HM manual. He gave it to them during his brief tenure. OCYS knew he would not stop at Winter Park or even Oviedo. OCYS knows HM wants to create a Super Club just like the one he came from in Texas. That means taking as much territory as he can claim.

Now that is the gospel truth ripped right from the BOD meeting and the conversations of those that were there last year. So you go ahead with all your claims of OCYS "tantrums". We know the FYSA Board Members don't respond to tantrums. That is why your club was denied affiliation.

Next!

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Can you read or is HM interpreting this for you? You have serious comprehension disorder known as FKK Parenthood. Read the damn bylaws and rules that I posted for your ignorant *****. It spells it out. It is not about a club "objecting" to the new affiliation, it is about gaining the support of clubs that already exist in the 15-mile radius. The FYSA reached out to OCYS and asked them if they supported this new affiliation. OCYS said no and then brought FCA along to the BOD meeting to explain why they would not support FKK's affiliation. Read the rule FKKtard. It starts out stating no club can affiliate if their home fields are within 15-mile radius of an existing FYSA affiliate. Do YOU know what that means? It means OCYS was there first. But HM did not see it that way. He felt he was there first with CFK and decided to challenge the rule. He knew OCYS was not going to support him starting a new club in OCYS backyard using the same fields OCYS plays on. Use you head for something beside a base for crushing beer cans dad. Getting existing affiliate support is an exception - not the rule. It is used in special cases when circumstances allow two teams to co-exist inside the radius but not poach from each other. A good example would be a club that maintains members must reside within city limits. A club may wish to affiliate that has home fields outside city limits but still within the 15-mile radius. If the outside club promises to not poach players from inside City limits, the existing club will support the new affiliate. So, if HM had promised to only recruit girls who live in Winter Park, he might have won the support of OCYS. Even if some of those girls were existing OCYS players, the club would know that there were boundaries to how far HM could recruit. In the spirit of "letting the girls play" OCYS would not have objected to HM reforming and starting a new affiliate. But OCYS had the HM manual. He gave it to them during his brief tenure. OCYS knew he would not stop at Winter Park or even Oviedo. OCYS knows HM wants to create a Super Club just like the one he came from in Texas. That means taking as much territory as he can claim.

Now that is the gospel truth ripped right from the BOD meeting and the conversations of those that were there last year. So you go ahead with all your claims of OCYS "tantrums". We know the FYSA Board Members don't respond to tantrums. That is why your club was denied affiliation.

Next!

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but it's obvious you're complete dumbass. Just listen to yourself, it's not about a club objecting it's about gaining support from clubs that already exist in the 15 mile rule. If a club doesn't give you their support, it's obvious they have some kind of objection. All you are doing is playing the semantics game. I also find it convenient that you don't mention any of the other charges brought against FKK that were found to be untrue. I can tell from your schoolboy rant that HM is in your head. Despite all your insults FKK is not going anywhere. Oh I would also tread lightly about calling out other clubs for coaching I mean "recruiting". Do you object to this or am I just not gaining your support?

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No. FCA and OC protested the FYSA affiliation under the 15-mile rule and FKK was denied affiliation. Do we need to post the minutes again? We should make it the header of every page because you Fkktards keep trying to rewrite history when it is on the FYSA site in black and white. They are board minutes loser. Not an opinion or a court case. It was a group of adults who have been involved in competitive soccer most of their lives and understood that FKK was trying to create a new club in OCYS backyard including using some of the same fields. It was overwhelming denial.

not "Trying to create a new club"... "did it". And it ain't going away.

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Can you read or is HM interpreting this for you? You have serious comprehension disorder known as FKK Parenthood. Read the damn bylaws and rules that I posted for your ignorant *****. It spells it out. It is not about a club "objecting" to the new affiliation, it is about gaining the support of clubs that already exist in the 15-mile radius. The FYSA reached out to OCYS and asked them if they supported this new affiliation. OCYS said no and then brought FCA along to the BOD meeting to explain why they would not support FKK's affiliation. Read the rule FKKtard. It starts out stating no club can affiliate if their home fields are within 15-mile radius of an existing FYSA affiliate. Do YOU know what that means? It means OCYS was there first. But HM did not see it that way. He felt he was there first with CFK and decided to challenge the rule. He knew OCYS was not going to support him starting a new club in OCYS backyard using the same fields OCYS plays on. Use you head for something beside a base for crushing beer cans dad. Getting existing affiliate support is an exception - not the rule. It is used in special cases when circumstances allow two teams to co-exist inside the radius but not poach from each other. A good example would be a club that maintains members must reside within city limits. A club may wish to affiliate that has home fields outside city limits but still within the 15-mile radius. If the outside club promises to not poach players from inside City limits, the existing club will support the new affiliate. So, if HM had promised to only recruit girls who live in Winter Park, he might have won the support of OCYS. Even if some of those girls were existing OCYS players, the club would know that there were boundaries to how far HM could recruit. In the spirit of "letting the girls play" OCYS would not have objected to HM reforming and starting a new affiliate. But OCYS had the HM manual. He gave it to them during his brief tenure. OCYS knew he would not stop at Winter Park or even Oviedo. OCYS knows HM wants to create a Super Club just like the one he came from in Texas. That means taking as much territory as he can claim.

Now that is the gospel truth ripped right from the BOD meeting and the conversations of those that were there last year. So you go ahead with all your claims of OCYS "tantrums". We know the FYSA Board Members don't respond to tantrums. That is why your club was denied affiliation.

Next!

Mike's angry.