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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    FSA, CFK, FCA, Rush, and Maitland kids all go to school together in either Orange or Seminole County. There really isn't anywhere you can't get to in the Orlando area within 45 minutes. From Disney to FSA is the farthest stretch and it's only an hour during most rush hour days. Getting anywhere in between is less. Clubs like Space Coast, FC United, Ormond Beach, Tsunami etc are around an hour or less on expressway so concievable kids could come from them as well.
    Well, OCYS first has to be attractive for reasons other than "it's big". For girls, yes- ECNL play will attract some really good players for the limited spots that will be available. But for the average player, OCYS will not necessarily be the choice. Kids who play at Maitland are there for a reason. Same with Rush. They've chosen those clubs because they prefer the management and the environment and I bet most of them stay.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      yeah that makes sense lets drive a hour ($4.00 a gallon) to daytona to play rec --MORON alert MORON alert
      Here's a "newsflash", zippy: club soccer in Melbourne (Space Coast United) and Palm Coast (FC United) isn't "rec soccer".

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Here's a "newsflash", zippy: club soccer in Melbourne (Space Coast United) and Palm Coast (FC United) isn't "rec soccer".

        OCYS is the only Premier Club! All other clubs are rec clubs!

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          OCYS is the only Premier Club! All other clubs are rec clubs!
          With all the hoopla surrounding OCYS, its A teams should be (or rather it should be said better be) pretty good.

          Those relegated to the "mega club's" B teams and below will wallow in mediocrity, while a portion of their monies subsidize and underwrite the A teams' endevors.

          Hmm...let's see..."ride the pine" on an OCYS A side or wallow away in mediocrity on an OCYS B team, or play meaningful minutes at an outlying club?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Here's a "newsflash", zippy: club soccer in Melbourne (Space Coast United) and Palm Coast (FC United) isn't "rec soccer".
            they will be when any kids with talent leave to play ecnl and the academy

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              they will be when any kids with talent leave to play ecnl and the academy
              Look Dopey, exactly how many girls will be on OCYS' ECNL teams? Get a clue: it WON'T be the whole f'n club! You do get that concept, don't you?

              And when was OCYS announced as an USSDA program?

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Look Dopey, exactly how many girls will be on OCYS' ECNL teams? Get a clue: it WON'T be the whole f'n club! You do get that concept, don't you?

                And when was OCYS announced as an USSDA program?

                They 100% did not get the USSDA!

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  They 100% did not get the USSDA!
                  Getting an invitation to U.S. Club Soccer's ECNL is one thing...getting accepted as an Academy program for U.S. Soccer is an entirely different "can of worms".

                  The central Florida area is "on the radar" for a future USSDA program. But OCYS has "it's work cut out for it" before it achieves such status.

                  Unlike CFK's girls' soccer, CFK's history with boys' soccer hasn't been anything to "write home to mom about." And OCYS hasn't yet had the first minute of match play.

                  In the recent past, FL Rush, with some pretty potent teams and success tried -and failed - for USSDA.

                  OCYS may well be a USSDA program in the future, but those who think it's a "given", based on the presence of OCS and OCYS' recent ECNL accomplishment, are in for a rude awakening.

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                    Are the rumors that Rush is joining OCYS this year true? We were planning to go to Rush this year for tryouts and wonder if this is true how it is going to work with the distance between the clubs.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Are the rumors that Rush is joining OCYS this year true? We were planning to go to Rush this year for tryouts and wonder if this is true how it is going to work with the distance between the clubs.
                      If you want to compete be prepared to travel . The best players travel great distances to compete and get seen ! The distance between Rush and OCYS is minimal compared to the benefits.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Are the rumors that Rush is joining OCYS this year true? We were planning to go to Rush this year for tryouts and wonder if this is true how it is going to work with the distance between the clubs.
                        I believe that was only if OCYS got the Academy which they did not get,

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If you want to compete be prepared to travel . The best players travel great distances to compete and get seen ! The distance between Rush and OCYS is minimal compared to the benefits.
                          Can you please explain to me the benefits of a a boy playing at OCYS as opposed to Rush or anywhere else.
                          OCYS has not announced coaches or training style. Price or tournaments they will attend. They have not announced anything so exactly what are the great benefits of playing at OCYS for a boy?
                          IF you want to play the dream and promises game then play for your current club as they can promis just as much as the kid on the block does.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Well, OCYS first has to be attractive for reasons other than "it's big". For girls, yes- ECNL play will attract some really good players for the limited spots that will be available. But for the average player, OCYS will not necessarily be the choice. Kids who play at Maitland are there for a reason. Same with Rush. They've chosen those clubs because they prefer the management and the environment and I bet most of them stay.
                            People for the most choose where to play for location. If you are very good then yes you travel for the caliber of the top team (ECNL) but thats 18 kids per age group for girls.

                            If you live in windermere and aren't in the top 15 for your age group in girls then why travel to Lake Mary to get the same training that Rush offers? Remember os of right now its the same medicore coaches from cfk and fsa for the 2nd and lower teams. But you can 100% sure that OCYS will cost more than any other club in town for all levels of play.

                            OCYS will get the most kids at tryouts thats a fact, as they should for girls try to make the top team but if you don't then you will see the kids staying closer to home.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              People for the most choose where to play for location. If you are very good then yes you travel for the caliber of the top team (ECNL) but thats 18 kids per age group for girls.

                              If you live in windermere and aren't in the top 15 for your age group in girls then why travel to Lake Mary to get the same training that Rush offers? Remember os of right now its the same medicore coaches from cfk and fsa for the 2nd and lower teams. But you can 100% sure that OCYS will cost more than any other club in town for all levels of play.

                              OCYS will get the most kids at tryouts thats a fact, as they should for girls try to make the top team but if you don't then you will see the kids staying closer to home.
                              Let's take high cost out for the moment because that's just an assumtion.

                              Most, if not all, of the top girls teams are at CFK and FSA and they already have girls from Windemere etc. Now they have ECNL. This means girls are probably going to come from places not mentioned to try out. Some of those girls will make it and knock not only the girls from CFK/FSA who were not top 18 between the two teams, but others who previously were. This means second team is now better than if it was just two teams split between CFK and FSA.

                              So based on this scenario the club that already had the top girls teams in the area will now have a better second team than previously thought. Why would a girl want to play at XYZ club just to be on a first team when they are losing to OC second team and possibly third? Third teams will be local anyway as I understand it.

                              ECNL clubs typically have an ECNL team and a State Cup team. Many of those second or State Cup teams play in Region III, CASL, Disney etc. and do very well against our top State Cup teams. I don't see OC being any different when it comes to second teams as this area has a lot of talent. The days of certain teams changing clubs when things aren't going as "coach" wants it to go are changing.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Let's take high cost out for the moment because that's just an assumtion.

                                Most, if not all, of the top girls teams are at CFK and FSA and they already have girls from Windemere etc. Now they have ECNL. This means girls are probably going to come from places not mentioned to try out. Some of those girls will make it and knock not only the girls from CFK/FSA who were not top 18 between the two teams, but others who previously were. This means second team is now better than if it was just two teams split between CFK and FSA.

                                So based on this scenario the club that already had the top girls teams in the area will now have a better second team than previously thought. Why would a girl want to play at XYZ club just to be on a first team when they are losing to OC second team and possibly third? Third teams will be local anyway as I understand it.

                                ECNL clubs typically have an ECNL team and a State Cup team. Many of those second or State Cup teams play in Region III, CASL, Disney etc. and do very well against our top State Cup teams. I don't see OC being any different when it comes to second teams as this area has a lot of talent. The days of certain teams changing clubs when things aren't going as "coach" wants it to go are changing.
                                Correct the 2nd teams will be good or should be good.

                                It will come down to who coaches those teams and the travel costs as well as the club fees.
                                All those things will determine to a family where to go. If your daughter is not a starter on the 2nd team then why travel all that way and possibly pay more in fees to sit when you can stay closer to home and play.

                                Lets face it in reality all the money parents spend on soccer is wasted if its to get a scholarship. Take the money you spend per year and put it into an account and it will be more than the child will get in scholarship money. Most scholarships are tied to academics so they will use brightfutures with pell grants and the schlorship might cover books and lodging for a year.

                                Also what are the numbers on scholarships for ECNL players? how deep does it go per team?

                                All the promises of scholarships are amusing when you conasider the amount of kids paying to be on top teams across the state.

                                Would love to see a breakdown of scholarship money's per club received as opposed to money's spent to be on the team.

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