ECNL Girls Announces Addition of South Shore Select

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Recent history suggest RI players do not fare any better with the Scorpion badge than staying in RI and playing at Bayside or Surf. So the more eyes have not resulted in more offers or higher level offers.

If there are on average 3 girls on a Scorps team from RI and 18 on a Bayside team from RI, then that would mean Scorps are generating D1 commits from RI at 6x the rate as Bayside.

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If there are on average 3 girls on a Scorps team from RI and 18 on a Bayside team from RI, then that would mean Scorps are generating D1 commits from RI at 6x the rate as Bayside.

Nice try. Not batting 100% either. Accept the fact that Scorpions is a meddling club in a good league. Those same players at Scorpions would have the same quality of offers if they stayed in RI.

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Nice try. Not batting 100% either.

It's just pure numbers. Do you agree that 1 out of 3 would be a higher rate than 1 out of 18?

Accept the fact that Scorpions is a meddling club in a good league. Those same players at Scorpions would have the same quality of offers if they stayed in RI.

If the strongest RI players who go to MA tend to pick other clubs then the above might not even be true.

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RI players are trained well in youth years. I think we do a good job with the girls side until u12. After u12 the best girls leave the state to play with tougher competition and in better leagues. The best players leave for clubs with ECNL or GA. NEFC and Scorpions has been the go to clubs with a few going further to Select and Stars. Now that Bayside is the only RI club to have ECRL or GA will that mean younger players coming up 2012 and younger, will stay in RI? I doubt Bayside will get back 2011 and birth years older due to bad coaching that left a bad taste in many mouths. RG did a number on that club on the girls side. I think if Bayside would invest in the better coaches that they have on the boys side coach te girls they would attract talent. They can recruit coaches from Bryant and PC.

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So what does that tell us? Possibilities:

-top RI girls are going to a club other than Scorpions. I’ve seen RI plates in Mendon, Lancaster and Hingham at games and practices.

-Scorpions ability to attract college attention is terrible and RI players who go to Scorpions are not getting the attention that they deserve.

-RI clubs are so good at attracting college’s attention that they negate the advantage of the ECNL league.

-RI is not producing talent that is of interest to college coaches

I am of the opinion that both 1 and 2 are happening. 3 and 4 are not.

I agree somewhat

1 I agree, or at least the opportunity for them is there. I see, literally, every NE state at these lots.
2a I don't agree. Scorpions ability to attract college attention looks very good to me. I see a range of 5-15 players a year going to D1 schools. Other than the outliers, 10-12 per year looks typical. 15-20 across all Divisions, with some really good D3 schools in there.
2b Inconclusive. Someone with way more time on their hands should look at all those players and see how many are from RI. I haven't seen a real source of info on it.
3. I agree with you
4. Inclusive. Could be the players, could be the coaching, could be the leagues. College soccer budgets are tight. Coaches need to go where they can see the most of the best players playing against the best players. Like Scorpions or not (and I have no personal feelings for them one way or the other), they have that ability and their commitments show that. is there a Bayside list to compare?

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I agree somewhat

1 I agree, or at least the opportunity for them is there. I see, literally, every NE state at these lots.
2a I don't agree. Scorpions ability to attract college attention looks very good to me. I see a range of 5-15 players a year going to D1 schools. Other than the outliers, 10-12 per year looks typical. 15-20 across all Divisions, with some really good D3 schools in there.
2b Inconclusive. Someone with way more time on their hands should look at all those players and see how many are from RI. I haven't seen a real source of info on it.
3. I agree with you
4. Inclusive. Could be the players, could be the coaching, could be the leagues. College soccer budgets are tight. Coaches need to go where they can see the most of the best players playing against the best players. Like Scorpions or not (and I have no personal feelings for them one way or the other), they have that ability and their commitments show that. is there a Bayside list to compare?

5-15 seems high based on what is out there publicly but I think the point was that handfuls of RI chase the college dream by going to Scorpions in high school years but very few end up at D1 schools.

I do agree that some decide on quality over convenience and go to Mendon or Lancaster vs Taunton.

The reality may be, RI is a small state and only produce 1-3 D1 prospects in any given year and recent history has them sprinkled between Bayside / NEFC / Scorpions / and probably Surf when all is said and done. Recognizing that it is Scorpions mouthpieces that are perpetrating comments like: "the best RI players leave the state" or "you want to play in college you have to leave the state" etc. Because even with the league offering disparity some very talented players decide to stay in the state.

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I agree somewhat

1 I agree, or at least the opportunity for them is there. I see, literally, every NE state at these lots.
2a I don't agree. Scorpions ability to attract college attention looks very good to me. I see a range of 5-15 players a year going to D1 schools. Other than the outliers, 10-12 per year looks typical. 15-20 across all Divisions, with some really good D3 schools in there.
2b Inconclusive. Someone with way more time on their hands should look at all those players and see how many are from RI. I haven't seen a real source of info on it.
3. I agree with you
4. Inclusive. Could be the players, could be the coaching, could be the leagues. College soccer budgets are tight. Coaches need to go where they can see the most of the best players playing against the best players. Like Scorpions or not (and I have no personal feelings for them one way or the other), they have that ability and their commitments show that. is there a Bayside list to compare?

ECNL and GA will provide more eyeballs - more opportunities. But yes, there are always going to be outliers. Bayside has an 06 team that has quite a bit of talent and girls signing at colleges - division one through three. Surf 07 girls team will also have division one, two and three players signed from that team. Would their paths have been easier in GA or ECNL? Who knows. But they chose to stay with their teams for their own reasons.

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If you are in fact a RI family on this ANONYMOUS board just be careful of ECNL coaches pretending to be someone they’re not and getting creative pretending they’re just like you and have been through it before. The RI board is picking up right now because they suddenly realize adding a 4th MA ECNL team may really hurt the other ECNL teams especially Scorpions and Stars White. With Bayside getting GA now they realize there is a huge battle for RI players and they feel terrible that they may have accidentally put the first nail in the Scorpions coffin. This is why all of the sudden the RI board has gone crazy.

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If you are in fact a RI family on this ANONYMOUS board just be careful of ECNL coaches pretending to be someone they’re not and getting creative pretending they’re just like you and have been through it before. The RI board is picking up right now because they suddenly realize adding a 4th MA ECNL team may really hurt the other ECNL teams especially Scorpions and Stars White. With Bayside getting GA now they realize there is a huge battle for RI players and they feel terrible that they may have accidentally put the first nail in the Scorpions coffin. This is why all of the sudden the RI board has gone crazy.

No one knows what’s going on right now. What players will leave?? What coaches will leave non ECNL and non GA clubs for greener pastures? Who will try to start another league or club?? It’s all posturing. My guess is Stars Blue and SSS come out of tryout season with the strongest teams.
However - I’m just sitting here with my popcorn for this week. Waiting for the other shoe to drop. Good times.

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5-15 seems high based on what is out there publicly.

Literally comes right off their website. 10-12 is the norm for D1.