Not sure where to draw the line for Top 200 but, from Rhode Island, Scorpions have one D1 commit for 2024s and 1 D1 commit for 2025s. Maybe more? Not sure. That's just pulled from NESJ. Also not sure how many RI girls are on those teams.
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NESJ only publishes what is sent to them, normally by families. I know because my D's team had three players who didn't put their name in.
As a reference, here is FC Stars Commits, even their horrible White team puts half their roster on D1 teams most years:
https://www.starsofma.org/alumni-commitments
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Nope. Those White commits aren't going to D1 schools, with minimal exceptions.Originally posted by Guest View Post
Also, half the roster commits anywhere. The other half doesn't commit at all. And less than half for the Stars RL teams.
Definitely worth studying that list to understand the end results for recruiting in New England.
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Yep, because my oldest D was on one of those teams and there were 14 White players on D1 rosters (some of the roster were on the next year's list).Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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From MA but it’s not often RI has a thread that blows up like this one in two days. Weighing in as experienced ECNL MA parent who has RI kids on the roster. First, your kids came in with better foot skills than the MA kids do bravo to those players. RI players lack height all except one so far. What’s that about? But what they lack in height they make up for in speed and speed of play. RI players iare mostly from Bayside and say what you will about that club, the girls are tough and the parents are great. Ok on to ecnl stuff. The players from RI come to Scorpions for the ECNL pathway. We play SUSA, Stars and other excellent teams. We get better playing better. Our daughters team has a mix of players who want D1-D3, and most will find exactly the right fit as they carefully did the work. i don’t believe any of our girls would get the same opportunities if we had not competed at the ECNL level and went to showcases etc. Surf RI etc iI’m sure are fine clubs but there’s only so much they can offer in their league.Comment
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“Want” vs “get” is the question. Previous posters counted 2 d1 offers in last 3 years to ri players at scorps (albeit 2025 class is not finished). Add in D2&D3 (per NESJ) bayside has several more commits than scorps. So the premise that you should go to scorps for better college opportunities seems to be incorrect based on facts. Stars / NEFC agree better chance. Scorps does not give you that lift.Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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Doesn’t matter if you choose Select and Scorpions they both have strengths and weaknesses but choose one. For those who are mentioning D1 commits realize that’s not the goal for most players who want to play soccer in college. The club with the most D1 commits will be Stars but that’s a moot point because they are logistically unattainable to RI players. Again though going to the club with most D1 commits should not be the focus for a RI player. It’s playing for a club with the best opportunities to play at their highest level competitively. As well as coaching and development. Scorpions and Select offer the highest level of competition for your player to challenge themselves beyond RI. Can’t be a big fish in a small pond. Its ok to leave the comfort of DPL, Surf, Bayside, Liverpool etc.NEFC was the go to club for players wanting to play beyond high school but they are in a weakening league and will likely become a boys club.Comment
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Using NESJ as the marker is tainted. It does not cover every commit, only the ones who send their names in.Originally posted by Guest View Post
Not saying there are more or less from any club, just that NESJ is not a reliable source to reference.
What IS undeniable, there will be more opportunities to be seen in an ECNL environment, that cannot be disputed.Comment
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Can't be disputed agree. But at the same time, it certainly seems like Scorpions are not taking advantage of being seen because they have very few D1 commits. That speaks to lack of development and poor reputation in the market place. No one wants to go to scorpions, some choose to because that is the only local option to ECNL. I know we don't have exact data but what data we do have suggests that RI Surf / Bayside has similar track record recently to college soccer as Scorpions even with all the built in advantages they do have. This is more to stop the RGs of the world coming on here to sell how good of a program they have and if you want to play college soccer you need to be in ECNL.Originally posted by Guest View Post
Finally if you have the talent and want P4 go to Blue or now Select. NEFC as well but remains to be seen what that looks like in 3 years.
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So 4%. That’s higher than what RI actually puts into D1 for players. There are two Scorpions and one NEFC player from RI committed to D1 for 2024 and 2025.Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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And 2 Bayside players and likely another RI Surf player from those classes. Scorpions with a better path but the same result.....Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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Not familiar with the rosters at Scorpions or Bayside, but I always assumed that the majority of girls at Scorpions are from MA and at Bayside from RI. Is that not the case? Because if it is, it's pretty misleading to say the results are equal if one has far more RI girls. Looking at the scorpions commitment list on their website(: https://www.scorpionssoccer.org/college-corner) they had 12 d1 commits for the class of 2024. While I'm not sure where these girls are form(MA vs RI) or if they are all ECNL(I'd assume the majority probably are), I haven't seen anything suggest that Bayside has anywhere near that amount of d1 commits last year(Could be completely wrong on this). With all this said, while both might have the same of RI d1 recruits, it seems pretty clear that as a whole Scorpions is a better d1 pathway; and if playing d1 is your sole goal, a RI girl should play at Scorpions.Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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The "RI" qualifier is a smokescreen.Originally posted by Guest View Post
One league puts players, no matter which state they are from, in front of 6-10 dozen colleges PER GAME at a showcase, one does not. That's the point. By trying to qualify it for RI-only loses the point.Comment
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Not a smokescreen. Just trying to puts some facts behind the Scorpion talk that if you are from RI and have talent you need to go to Scorpions. Recent history suggest RI players do not fare any better with the Scorpion badge than staying in RI and playing at Bayside or Surf. So the more eyes have not resulted in more offers or higher level offers.Originally posted by Guest View Post
NEFC / Blue and probably Select in coming years YES
Scorpions NO
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So what does that tell us? Possibilities:Originally posted by Guest View Post
-top RI girls are going to a club other than Scorpions. I’ve seen RI plates in Mendon, Lancaster and Hingham at games and practices.
-Scorpions ability to attract college attention is terrible and RI players who go to Scorpions are not getting the attention that they deserve.
-RI clubs are so good at attracting college’s attention that they negate the advantage of the ECNL league.
-RI is not producing talent that is of interest to college coaches
I am of the opinion that both 1 and 2 are happening. 3 and 4 are not.
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