FC Bucks 2006 ECNL - Girls

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Here's what I know. we will beat the brakes off of PF and Delco next season

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Here's what I know. we will beat the brakes off of PF and Delco next season

Whatever it takes, right? As long as you win, it justifies all the BRDs.

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Six are coming to bucks and the current families are should we say less than thrilled. Nothing like being loyal to a club and team over all of the bad years and now when it really matters, our kids will be getting much less playing time. Talk about a kick in the teeth. We all feel bad for our kids who put all the time in for this team and now are getting pushed aside or forced to play for the 2005 team.

You made your bed and benefitted for the past 5 years for being dirty. There is no honor among thieves and it looks like karma is coming in the most critical recruiting years. The players that are leaving either never deserved the spots they were given or (since Delco took them) probably were sick of so many teammates that didnt deserve the spots they were given and are finally seeking something better. This late in the game, with your teams reputation, the club is lucky that they can find replacements with checks .... any quality will do as long as they can pay.

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You made your bed and benefitted for the past 5 years for being dirty. There is no honor among thieves and it looks like karma is coming in the most critical recruiting years. The players that are leaving either never deserved the spots they were given or (since Delco took them) probably were sick of so many teammates that didnt deserve the spots they were given and are finally seeking something better. This late in the game, with your teams reputation, the club is lucky that they can find replacements with checks .... any quality will do as long as they can pay.

Will be sad for quite a few existing players to be bumped. Just not right. Zero loyalty

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Will be sad for quite a few existing players to be bumped. Just not right. Zero loyalty

The FCB way be loyal and you get screwed leave for a year and you will move up

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Will be sad for quite a few existing players to be bumped. Just not right. Zero loyalty

Welcome to the ECNL boss. Churn in, churn out. Heavy rosters and parents dreaming of scholarships. This ain;t your daddy's township club.

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Welcome to the ECNL boss. Churn in, churn out. Heavy rosters and parents dreaming of scholarships. This ain;t your daddy's township club.

It’s actually disgusting that they are able to get away with this stuff. Players playing their hearts out, families traveling all over creation and then in a split second you’re out. Just not right.

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It’s actually disgusting that they are able to get away with this stuff. Players playing their hearts out, families traveling all over creation and then in a split second you’re out. Just not right.

It's every ECNL team in this area. Ask the folks at PF and Delco how many kids exist from U-10 or even U-12. You guys at Bucks far outlasted them. It's a meat market. None of these clubs can develop so they just continue to recruit and bring in more kids. The coaches, by and large, are ineffective, self-centered, and lazy, which is why they can't make kids better in an environment where the teams are stacked with "talent". The great myth is that ECNL has good coaching. it doesn't...it just offers the most established platform, so parents flock to those clubs hunting scholarship dollars.

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It's every ECNL team in this area. Ask the folks at PF and Delco how many kids exist from U-10 or even U-12. You guys at Bucks far outlasted them. It's a meat market. None of these clubs can develop so they just continue to recruit and bring in more kids. The coaches, by and large, are ineffective, self-centered, and lazy, which is why they can't make kids better in an environment where the teams are stacked with "talent". The great myth is that ECNL has good coaching. it doesn't...it just offers the most established platform, so parents flock to those clubs hunting scholarship dollars.

Truth..the biggest lie propagated by every club in this area, and nationwide.

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It's every ECNL team in this area. Ask the folks at PF and Delco how many kids exist from U-10 or even U-12. You guys at Bucks far outlasted them. It's a meat market. None of these clubs can develop so they just continue to recruit and bring in more kids. The coaches, by and large, are ineffective, self-centered, and lazy, which is why they can't make kids better in an environment where the teams are stacked with "talent". The great myth is that ECNL has good coaching. it doesn't...it just offers the most established platform, so parents flock to those clubs hunting scholarship dollars.

First and Foremost- Youth soccer is all about the Benjamin’s . Sad but true - the kids mean nothing to these clubs except dollar signs.

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First and Foremost- Youth soccer is all about the Benjamin’s . Sad but true - the kids mean nothing to these clubs except dollar signs.

It's 100% true. The sooner families realize it, the better the market will become.

As for commitment lists, most of the biggest signings for PF and Delco do their development elsewhere. Bucks, at least, has historically kept the core of teams together, whereas PF and Delco just seek to acquire new kids every season to fill out large rosters. It seems Bucks is making that jump now, too, as well. Secondly, my daughter's team at PF had a college commit come into the club this past season. She had already committed as a junior, but PF posted it as their signing bc she officially signed her LoI this year even though that was pre-established at her last club. The numbers are tricky like that. It's not always what it seems.

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It's every ECNL team in this area. Ask the folks at PF and Delco how many kids exist from U-10 or even U-12. You guys at Bucks far outlasted them. It's a meat market. None of these clubs can develop so they just continue to recruit and bring in more kids. The coaches, by and large, are ineffective, self-centered, and lazy, which is why they can't make kids better in an environment where the teams are stacked with "talent". The great myth is that ECNL has good coaching. it doesn't...it just offers the most established platform, so parents flock to those clubs hunting scholarship dollars.

Kids peak at different times. Usually the kids that are pretty good at u12 but can't quite get on the A team, work their butts off for a couple years. Then by the time they are u16, they are better players than the complacent kids who were stars at u12. You can't blame clubs for holding tryouts and selecting the best players- that's how it's supposed to work.
ECNL is more of a trusted platform- as in it opens doors, it pads the resume. Can you get on a Div 2 school these days if you're not coming from an ECNL team?
I'm a firm believe that teammates are more important to development than coaches. Coaches guide teams but for player development- you play with good players, you either sink or swim.

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Kids peak at different times. Usually the kids that are pretty good at u12 but can't quite get on the A team, work their butts off for a couple years. Then by the time they are u16, they are better players than the complacent kids who were stars at u12. You can't blame clubs for holding tryouts and selecting the best players- that's how it's supposed to work.
ECNL is more of a trusted platform- as in it opens doors, it pads the resume. Can you get on a Div 2 school these days if you're not coming from an ECNL team?
I'm a firm believe that teammates are more important to development than coaches. Coaches guide teams but for player development- you play with good players, you either sink or swim.

Kids peak at different times. Usually the kids that are pretty good at u12 but can't quite get on the A team, work their butts off for a couple years. Then by the time they are u16, they are better players than the complacent kids who were stars at u12. You can't blame clubs for holding tryouts and selecting the best players- that's how it's supposed to work.
ECNL is more of a trusted platform- as in it opens doors, it pads the resume. Can you get on a Div 2 school these days if you're not coming from an ECNL team?
I'm a firm believe that teammates are more important to development than coaches. Coaches guide teams but for player development- you play with good players, you either sink or swim.
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Agree with the teammates part for sure. I think we are in agreement on a lot of this. But most parents aren't moving to a club for teammates. There really aren't tryouts, every player move at an ECNL club is brokered long before tryouts are held. But even beside that, if the coaching or environment was so good at PF or Delco, there would be develop better from young ages. Kids are moving far earlier these days. Even at U-9 now, you have kids going over an hour to practice at some of these big clubs. There is no more waiting until U-15 to go to an ECNL club. Families are deciding that far earlier. They believe the (false) perception that coaching is better, when, in reality, you are better waiting, doing more private training (rather than a more intensive team practice schedule). PF and Delco (on some teams) are drawing kids 2-3 states and 4-5 counties by U-11. The point is, don't expect loyalty from any club and like the idiot who who said in another thread that one of the local teams had the 8 best players in PA at U-10 or U-11, they will find out the hard way about where those kids really stack up even within their own club, let alone the state in just a few years.

If people expect any loyalty, they are too naive for this game

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Kids peak at different times. Usually the kids that are pretty good at u12 but can't quite get on the A team, work their butts off for a couple years. Then by the time they are u16, they are better players than the complacent kids who were stars at u12. You can't blame clubs for holding tryouts and selecting the best players- that's how it's supposed to work.
ECNL is more of a trusted platform- as in it opens doors, it pads the resume. Can you get on a Div 2 school these days if you're not coming from an ECNL team?
I'm a firm believe that teammates are more important to development than coaches. Coaches guide teams but for player development- you play with good players, you either sink or swim.

Agree with the teammates part for sure. I think we are in agreement on a lot of this. But most parents aren't moving to a club for teammates. There really aren't tryouts, every player move at an ECNL club is brokered long before tryouts are held. But even beside that, if the coaching or environment was so good at PF or Delco, there would be develop better from young ages. Kids are moving far earlier these days. Even at U-9 now, you have kids going over an hour to practice at some of these big clubs. There is no more waiting until U-15 to go to an ECNL club. Families are deciding that far earlier. They believe the (false) perception that coaching is better, when, in reality, you are better waiting, doing more private training (rather than a more intensive team practice schedule). PF and Delco (on some teams) are drawing kids 2-3 states and 4-5 counties by U-11. The point is, don't expect loyalty from any club and like the idiot who who said in another thread that one of the local teams had the 8 best players in PA at U-10 or U-11, they will find out the hard way about where those kids really stack up even within their own club, let alone the state in just a few years.

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Frankly you’re much better off to develop even at a local town team, then make the move to ECNL at U14-U15.

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Frankly you’re much better off to develop even at a local town team, then make the move to ECNL at U14-U15.

Yeah but then you run the risk of feeling like a big fish in a small pond for years- then when you get on a team with better players you might not adjust well. There's no set pathway for development.