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The best athletes argument is a fallacy. Our issue isn’t lack of athletes, it’s lack of understanding and creativity. The best athletes argument would make sense if we only lost to other big population countries but we get dominated by teams with minuscule player pools, so it’s not like they are squads full of Odell Beckhams. They are squads made up of players who see and understand movement, recognizing patterns and seeing where the opening will be 3 passes ahead.

correction...the men are getting beat by countries whos #1 priority is soccer....in the US soccer is 3 or 4th at best (behind football, baseball, basketball). look at the fifa world rankings the usa is #22!!!!! the top 20 on the list are countries with soccer as the national past time!!!!

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-rank...ing-table/men/

Lets do our homework first before we write bs on ts!!!!

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Granted it's a smaller country with fewer competing other popular sports (hockey is very big there too), but it shows what effective leadership and vision can do. USSF is utterly clueless. Youth soccer has turned into an untamable octopus with ne real leadership.

It is not just vision and leadership. It is money. Top talent in Iceland has financial value to the clubs that invest in developing that talent. They will get paid for finding and developing a talent when that player transfers to play professionally. Look at the money.

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It is not just vision and leadership. It is money. Top talent in Iceland has financial value to the clubs that invest in developing that talent. They will get paid for finding and developing a talent when that player transfers to play professionally. Look at the money.

there is no $$$ in soccer (except if you own a soccer club)....average mls salary and pension is a fkg joke compared to nfl, baseball, and nba....college scholarship (if you are lucky) is enough to cover your fkg textbooks!!!!!! soccer is like the redheaded stepchild of activities in the US.

hell does anyone remember the last time when nycfc sold out yankee stadium or the redbulls selling out there own arena?....we are not a soccer 1st country plain and simple!!!!

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Iceland improved so dramatically for three reasons.

1) They built a small artificial soccer field in the playground of every single public school in the country for the kids to use at recess and after school.

2) The cities built large indoor soccer facilities throughout the country and charge almost nothing for them to be used by clubs.

3) Every single coach, even the U-Littles, are paid professionals that carry UEFA coaching licenses. There isn't a single parent coach in the country. And they do this while still keeping club ball affordable, at most a few hundred Euro's a year.

When any country throws that singular focus upon any sport and keeps it affordable and accessible, it is going to become pretty damn good at it.

Every town in the US pretty much has 1 and 2 .... but i disagree that turf makes any difference .... visit a bodega or beach in south america and see the talent there on sand, dirt, and rocks. #3 is nice, but the kids have to simply love it and play ... whenever they can .... and honestly, mostly unsupervised is far better if they play a lot .... they will try stuff and figure it out and learn to apply lessons more judiciously that a kid that only train in pay-to-play situations ..... which one gets to 10k hours of soccer first?

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Every town in the US pretty much has 1 and 2 .... but i disagree that turf makes any difference .... visit a bodega or beach in south america and see the talent there on sand, dirt, and rocks. #3 is nice, but the kids have to simply love it and play ... whenever they can .... and honestly, mostly unsupervised is far better if they play a lot .... they will try stuff and figure it out and learn to apply lessons more judiciously that a kid that only train in pay-to-play situations ..... which one gets to 10k hours of soccer first?

In Iceland they had to have turf, and not just because of the colder weather. Much of the land cannot sustain grass (most of it is volcanic soil and grit) and the limited useable land they have is used for food.

Fields aren't our issue - it's the overseers of the vision, the execution and the coaching. We don't have any of those three right now.

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In Iceland they had to have turf, and not just because of the colder weather. Much of the land cannot sustain grass (most of it is volcanic soil and grit) and the limited useable land they have is used for food.

Fields aren't our issue - it's the overseers of the vision, the execution and the coaching. We don't have any of those three right now.

It is money. Pay to play is not how ANY successful soccer nation finds and develops talent. Not a single one.

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You want to know why we'll always be 2nd class?

https://www.espn.com/soccer/la-galax...exico-decision

I don't blame him or anyone else at all. This isn't a political discussion. The reality is our best players have roots and opportunities with other countries due to how our population is structured. That is pretty unique throughout the world. What makes the country great (a melting pot) hurts us. Watch a US v anyone from CONMEBOL or CONCACAF and the crowds are 70% for the opposition. The only time the US plays a true "home" game is v Canada or with a European friendly.

Yes, we've got a few Europeans in the reverse, but it's nowhere comparable. The best US youth players want to play for the country of their (or their parents') heritage.

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You want to know why we'll always be 2nd class?

https://www.espn.com/soccer/la-galax...exico-decision

I don't blame him or anyone else at all. This isn't a political discussion. The reality is our best players have roots and opportunities with other countries due to how our population is structured. That is pretty unique throughout the world. What makes the country great (a melting pot) hurts us. Watch a US v anyone from CONMEBOL or CONCACAF and the crowds are 70% for the opposition. The only time the US plays a true "home" game is v Canada or with a European friendly.

Yes, we've got a few Europeans in the reverse, but it's nowhere comparable. The best US youth players want to play for the country of their (or their parents') heritage.

What a bunch of crap. They will go where they have a successful career and maybe raise a family. There is no money or opportunity in USA soccer

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Wait this is a G(Girls) DA thread and we are going off topic. Discussing the US vs the world is such a large scale conversation; better suited for another thread.

Let's get back to the regional team bashing. I rather enjoy those posts.

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Wait this is a G(Girls) DA thread and we are going off topic. Discussing the US vs the world is such a large scale conversation; better suited for another thread.

Let's get back to the regional team bashing. I rather enjoy those posts.

Doesn't matter. If you start a US v the World thread it will just come back to GDA bashing anyway. One-stop shopping.

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Wait this is a G(Girls) DA thread and we are going off topic. Discussing the US vs the world is such a large scale conversation; better suited for another thread.

Let's get back to the regional team bashing. I rather enjoy those posts.

It's related because both our international presence (mostly men's of course) and the abysmal rollout of GDA demonstrate how clueless and lost US Soccer is.

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It's related because both our international presence (mostly men's of course) and the abysmal rollout of GDA demonstrate how clueless and lost US Soccer is.

Pull your pants down and take a quick peek. The international presence on the men's side is unrelated to your definition of the abysmal rollout of GDA

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Pull your pants down and take a quick peek. The international presence on the men's side is unrelated to your definition of the abysmal rollout of GDA

With 12 years of BDA the mens game has gone nowhere, possibly even backwards. Every year 100s of international academy rejects and near retirees take MLS and college spots. Now USSF will solve our growing problem on the women's side?

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With 12 years of BDA the mens game has gone nowhere, possibly even backwards. Every year 100s of international academy rejects and near retirees take MLS and college spots. Now USSF will solve our growing problem on the women's side?

it did go backwards....the men went from #8 to the 20s in 4 years!!!!!!!!!!
thank god for our girls....we would have no pride in soccer if not for them.

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it did go backwards....the men went from #8 to the 20s in 4 years!!!!!!!!!!
thank god for our girls....we would have no pride in soccer if not for them.

That Mexican team has a lot of graduates from Cali DA clubs.