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Another club that never should have been in the system to begin with - not only because it wasn't very strong but the travel to and from that area was ridiculous. Sure you want to capture as much talent as you can, but not at the expense of allowing in so many poor quality clubs and players who aren't up to snuff for a "top" league. USSF wants everyone under one umbrella. But in reality if they'd made GDA half the size to start (they could always expand later) and continue to shop ECNL players outside of metro areas where there wasn't a strong GDA presence none of this would have happened. But they want's it all.

so who decides what "up to snuff" means ? A person who has an incentive to add numbers or someone else? the whole model is wrong. You cannot allow conflicted clubs to be the ones who select the talent. So how do you get around that ?

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They tried; ECNL marketing did a better job of it, so they had to lower the standard a bit.

But, no, the standards are not as bad as you make it out to be and it will get better. The Empires and LISC's won't be around long.

Empire got dropped bc of the ridiculous travel, LISC got an expansion this year, lol. Letting in clubs like STA (with the added bonus of Shaun Cryer!) is hardly raising the standard. Consolidation is where GDA should be heading, not expansion. And yes, both LISC and Albertson (not Fury) took ANY kid willing to join. At least Fury had a benchmark...

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so who decides what "up to snuff" means ? A person who has an incentive to add numbers or someone else? the whole model is wrong. You cannot allow conflicted clubs to be the ones who select the talent. So how do you get around that ?

one way would have been to have extensively scouted the country, figured out how many players the USSF really thought had the sort of potential they covet and then from that figured out how many clubs/teams per area.

They could have expanded if need be.

if you miss out on one player in the Buffalo area, so what. There has to be some level of practicality to it.

I dont think the USSF did any real scouting

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one way would have been to have extensively scouted the country, figured out how many players the USSF really thought had the sort of potential they covet and then from that figured out how many clubs/teams per area.

They could have expanded if need be.

if you miss out on one player in the Buffalo area, so what. There has to be some level of practicality to it.

I dont think the USSF did any real scouting

I should have added, they could also have gone some way to normalizing the teams by insisting to some degree WHERE players actually went. ie if a player was equidistant from two options, look at placing her where it would make the most competitive sense.

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I should have added, they could also have gone some way to normalizing the teams by insisting to some degree WHERE players actually went. ie if a player was equidistant from two options, look at placing her where it would make the most competitive sense.

If US Soccer really wanted to find their diamond in the rough they should use their resources to send scouts to events and actually do some scouting. Word of great players gets around I know of a player from the Albany area who is carrying her HS team to championship games as a 7th grader, but she won’t leave her home club. Who is going to notice her? Where is the scout calling her into camp? Stop running these nonsense league and tournament games and scout the players. Once you find them, train them the right way. US Soccer has made it clear that they don’t want to find the best players because it doesn’t look good for them to have girls teams that play better than boys teams. While I’m all for equal pay, the lawsuit screwed women’s soccer

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There is no money to be made in finding and developing soccer talent in the US. Period. Money is made in the current system and that is why we have it.

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There is no money to be made in finding and developing soccer talent in the US. Period. Money is made in the current system and that is why we have it.

this is only partly true. The USSF IS making money. they should spend it to grow the game. That is separate and distinct from the youth clubs

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If US Soccer really wanted to find their diamond in the rough they should use their resources to send scouts to events and actually do some scouting. Word of great players gets around I know of a player from the Albany area who is carrying her HS team to championship games as a 7th grader, but she won’t leave her home club. Who is going to notice her? Where is the scout calling her into camp? Stop running these nonsense league and tournament games and scout the players. Once you find them, train them the right way. US Soccer has made it clear that they don’t want to find the best players because it doesn’t look good for them to have girls teams that play better than boys teams. While I’m all for equal pay, the lawsuit screwed women’s soccer

how do you train a kid the right way if she wont leave her home club? you dont. I like your story, but carrying a HS team to championship games may or may not be impressive.

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http://reading.fawsl.com/news/this_o...CPd8Pm7B5Af.97

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how do you train a kid the right way if she wont leave her home club? you dont. I like your story, but carrying a HS team to championship games may or may not be impressive.

That is ridiculous. Don't think the rest of the world is achieving what they do by berating and scolding the players because they don't open up their thin wallets to enrich the clubs and youth sports travel industry.

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how do you train a kid the right way if she wont leave her home club? you dont. I like your story, but carrying a HS team to championship games may or may not be impressive.

there is an old saying..."the cream always rises to the top"

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That is ridiculous. Don't think the rest of the world is achieving what they do by berating and scolding the players because they don't open up their thin wallets to enrich the clubs and youth sports travel industry.

its not ridiculous and no one is saying that they should open their wallets. in the right system she would have choice to make. play a the nearest club that can develop her or not. the point is that non one has any right to have that club on their doorstep.

in the right system, the market will tell her how good she is. ie a club would pick up the cost. if no one is willing to do that then you have your answer.

all of this BS goes away when those who benefit have to put their money where their mouth is.

If the USSF had to PAY for a players training, i wonder how many teams they would have.

this is the huge hole in their set up. The WNT is essentially a club, so they should be paying for all the youth players they think can make that club. period. they should be selecting them, they should be watching their development closely and they should be telling them which Club in their area fits them best. If you dont keep improving, they should drop you.

Simple.

now you have aligned the beneficiary with the product. Will never happen though

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there is an old saying..."the cream always rises to the top"

the problem with your argument is you need to define what that top actually is. A HS title in Albany may be more or less than one in say New Jersey. Until the top is defined by actual talent, it will be the mess it is now

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its not ridiculous and no one is saying that they should open their wallets. in the right system she would have choice to make. play a the nearest club that can develop her or not. the point is that non one has any right to have that club on their doorstep.

in the right system, the market will tell her how good she is. ie a club would pick up the cost. if no one is willing to do that then you have your answer.

all of this BS goes away when those who benefit have to put their money where their mouth is.

If the USSF had to PAY for a players training, i wonder how many teams they would have.

this is the huge hole in their set up. The WNT is essentially a club, so they should be paying for all the youth players they think can make that club. period. they should be selecting them, they should be watching their development closely and they should be telling them which Club in their area fits them best. If you dont keep improving, they should drop you.

Simple.

now you have aligned the beneficiary with the product. Will never happen though

Huh. The rest of the world already aligns. It is not a mystery how to do this. If the market values top soccer talent, as it does in many places, then top soccer is found and compensated. All the money in the system elsewhere flows top down, not bottom up.

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Another club that never should have been in the system to begin with - not only because it wasn't very strong but the travel to and from that area was ridiculous. Sure you want to capture as much talent as you can, but not at the expense of allowing in so many poor quality clubs and players who aren't up to snuff for a "top" league. USSF wants everyone under one umbrella. But in reality if they'd made GDA half the size to start (they could always expand later) and continue to shop ECNL players outside of metro areas where there wasn't a strong GDA presence none of this would have happened. But they want's it all.

DA clubs need other DA clubs to play against. And if it was half the size to start, that would have involved even more travel unless DA was reduced to playing the same 2 or 3 teams over and over again.