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    #31
    It's supposed to be funnel around U14 give or take. The top kids will end up at the pro academies (if able geographically) or top pay to play MLS clubs. There are kids who might make a roster at the top teams but won't play much or at all. The pro clubs chew them up quickly.

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      #32
      Aside from Nycfc and Redbulls, Gottschee is the only decent mls next club around. The others are jokes. DUSC is worse than a joke — kind of like fa euro.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Guest View Post
        Aside from Nycfc and Redbulls, Gottschee is the only decent mls next club around. The others are jokes..
        Have you seen the standings for U13 and U14. What makes you single out Gottschee above all the teams ahead of them in the standings?


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          #34
          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          Have you seen the standings for U13 and U14. What makes you single out Gottschee above all the teams ahead of them in the standings?

          Those ages are irrelevant

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            #35
            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            Those ages are irrelevant
            Those ages are the topic of this thread!

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              #36
              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              Those ages are the topic of this thread!
              Gee I guess the age limitation is just invisible in the title of the thread and invisible in the first post. LOL. I guess the creator of the post was unaware of the topic. Lol

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                #37
                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                Have you seen the standings for U13 and U14. What makes you single out Gottschee above all the teams ahead of them in the standings?

                ”Around” meaning in the NY area. What other team around here is better? Certainly not Oval, Westchester, or Fa euro. Those teams are terrible.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post
                  Aside from Nycfc and Redbulls, Gottschee is the only decent mls next club around. The others are jokes. DUSC is worse than a joke — kind of like fa euro.
                  NYSC is also very good.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Have you seen the standings for U13 and U14. What makes you single out Gottschee above all the teams ahead of them in the standings?

                    Is u14 MLSN really that bad that fc Westchester has 8 wins. They are terrible. We scrimmaged them and let's just say it was very embarrassing for them

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      Depends how you think about MLSN. And perhaps that speaks to the bifurcated nature of the league.

                      Yes, if you just want to identify players for the pro academies and field teams that can compete with the pro academies, expansion is an inefficient way of doing that. But that's an extremely narrow definition of 'quality' players.

                      If you want to raise the level of soccer for the best non-pro-pathway kids, there is room to do that. My kid plays in NAL, and has scrimmaged with MLS Next non-pro academy teams, so gotten a taste. From what I see, most of the NAL clubs have at least a few kids (sometimes more) who could play on a higher level. If you sucked all of them out of the NAL (or other area leagues), you could get more of the top kids competing at higher levels, which many of them want. Of course that would deplete talent in NAL and other area leagues. Everything has tradeoffs.
                      NAL is a bad league. It's mostly MLSN "B" and "C" teams. Since some of the A teams are weak, you can only imaging the level of the these teams. Majority of those players could never play higher level, but keep those parents paying top dollar by dangling that in front of them

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                        #41
                        This alphabet soup of leagues changes every few years. MLSN has the benefit of a deep pocketed benefactor and will be here to stay. The weaker teams’ rosters will eventually be filled with top players, the league will continue to expand, and then will become tiered. Former top leagues like ECNL boys side will dry up. This is what we all wanted. Why all the haters?

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                          #42
                          Have a conversation with a college coach – they’ll tell you they’re very interested in recruiting from top ECNL teams because they like the structure of the platform and they expect ECNL to get stronger. If you’re not at a MLS Academy (RB or NYCFC or Philly) then what matters is being on a top MLSNext team or a top ECNL team. Mid tier and below MLSNext does not matter to the college coaches.

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                            #43
                            Yes, that’s now. But in a few years things will be different …

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              NAL is a bad league. It's mostly MLSN "B" and "C" teams. Since some of the A teams are weak, you can only imaging the level of the these teams.
                              Your definition of "bad" is extreme. If everyone not on a pro pathway is "bad", then you're out of touch with reality. Pros are the top .0001%, there is a whole spectrum of soccer (like anything). So if you think NAL is "bad", what adjectives would you use for all the leagues below them!

                              NAL is a mixed league with lots of kids who are more skilled and more committed to soccer than your average kid. Just because they are not pro-destined phenoms does not make them "bad". Plus, most teams in NAL have a few very strong players, who get picked off to MLS Next (or the current 2010 Barca NAL team has a kid with offer from Red Bulls academy). If you created a new MLS Next team with those 15-20 kids from across NAL, it could be respectable in MLS Next. Will see how it converges (or not) for DUSC.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                Your definition of "bad" is extreme. If everyone not on a pro pathway is "bad", then you're out of touch with reality. Pros are the top .0001%, there is a whole spectrum of soccer (like anything). So if you think NAL is "bad", what adjectives would you use for all the leagues below them!

                                NAL is a mixed league with lots of kids who are more skilled and more committed to soccer than your average kid. Just because they are not pro-destined phenoms does not make them "bad". Plus, most teams in NAL have a few very strong players, who get picked off to MLS Next (or the current 2010 Barca NAL team has a kid with offer from Red Bulls academy). If you created a new MLS Next team with those 15-20 kids from across NAL, it could be respectable in MLS Next. Will see how it converges (or not) for DUSC.
                                I guess the same kid from Barca got offer from Barca Arizona (which is mlsnext) and NYCFC. The kid is die-hard Barca fan. Just saying, if you are good enough, the team will find you!

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