The Truth about PDA, Matchfit, and Matchfit Shore

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You do realize those numbers are national and not state right?

You know PDA/MF rigging these numbers as they wish to get to “nationals”. They play 5 calculated games a season, having key 5 players and 25 fooled NJ competitors benched to get there. Thus rigging ECNL to be on top. These numbers are phony. Good luck.

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Actually, that wasn't me (OP). Said all I need to say. I've only posted twice on this thread I think, maybe a third post but I'm not going to take the time to check.

There are other people here posting that have in fact been through the process and know exactly what I am talking about.

Just trying to help people realize that U13 and under rankings don't mean anything except for maybe setting yourself up for future success IF approached the right way.

Have a good day.

I read thru your post twice (which I never do on TS) because I was reading the truth about youth soccer not only in NJ but everywhere. I have 2 daughters who have gone thru this process (gauntlet) with the second starting college now. This information is factual and anyone else who has had a daughter get committed of are playing in college will affirm this post. Parents who make negative comments either haven’t had the experience yet or do not have a daughter currently playing in a top D1/P5 program. Not only must you have the physical tools to endure the competitiveness of the training/matches but also maintain high standards academically. College coaches are extremely demanding and for the most part very fair but to them this is about winning and the success of a program is not just about competing. At the end of the fall season college coaches sit down with players and tell them their impressions of them during the season and what they need to work on. At the end of the spring season they have the same talk as well in which Coaches have been known to tell kids if they are still in their plans for the next year. If you doubt me go look at the transfer portals starting in the Spring of players transferring out. Parents who have not gotten to this point yet have no idea the reality of competition and competitive sports. D1 College coaches want players who are not only athletic, strong, fast, quick & smart but are also mentally tough. The original post is highly accurate for those players looking to play at a high level in college.

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..... Playing with someone or against someone who is being looked at can also get you noticed.

100% true story. Wake Forest is at an ECNL showcase watching two defenders from "some" team (not sure who, it's irrelevant). Girl scores a hat trick against the two being scouted, and coach offers her a spot right there on the sidelines.

I know of a similar story of a girl going to Syracuse. Wasn't being scouted, but was playing against someone who was. Had a great game, and without an hour after she had an introductory e-mail and committed to there.

So, while odds are of course the better the league and team, the better the competition and the players, that is where to be. However, it's not the only path. Great players will be found. They just may need to work harder at it.

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D1 College coaches want players who are not only athletic, strong, fast, quick & smart but are also mentally tough.

Pretty interesting that "skillful" or "technically gifted" weren't mentioned.....

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You know PDA/MF rigging these numbers as they wish to get to “nationals”. They play 5 calculated games a season, having key 5 players and 25 fooled NJ competitors benched to get there. Thus rigging ECNL to be on top. These numbers are phony. Good luck.

OMG. I didn't really want to post anything else but this one triggered me. It's an example of someone who knows nothing of what they are talking about along with being biased against a certain club. But really it is one of the dumbest honest posts I have read in along time.

1. New Jersey combined with New York City is the most populated area in the entire United States, allowing a destination Club like PDA to capitalize. PDA has been the destination club in this area for years now and are proven winners. They have produced top talent for just as long including Tobin Heath. Matchfit has also produced top talent and many P5 athletes. Again, it's not PDA/Matchfit/SJEB, it's your DD skill, education, attitude and morals.

2. Rigging numbers to get to Nationals??? You have to be top 2 to make National Playoffs. The only way to do so is to win games. Bethesda AND Penn Fusion have also made the playoffs many times coming out of the same division. Now you add Pipeline which is another proven club. Bottom line, you have to win games to get there. Rigging, ROFL.

3. Every team top team has 5 or MANY more key players that make the playoffs. Most of the time it's 11 players. Let me tell you that you stand literally 0% chance of making National ECNL finals with any starters that are weak. You also have a very slim chance of just making the ECNL playoffs with any weak players. I think you should take the time and research past finalist BEFORE CoVid and see just how many players went to P5 schools.

4. Large rosters are common throughout ECNL nationwide. If a player is not talented enough to be starter or strong role player, it is up to that family/player to leave and play somewhere else. Nobody is holding a gun to their head. There are also other avenues in which to be successful.

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Well, thanks for the info. Our children play soccer and they love it. However,they aren't interested in getting into colleges using soccer. Our grades and other extracurricular activities are solid enough and the target schools are those who don't offer athletic scholarship, anyway.

No need to care about PDA or whatever -A's true story.

Have fun on TS, parents and coaches! Keep the bashing and lies going. It's quite entertaining.

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Pretty interesting that "skillful" or "technically gifted" weren't mentioned.....

Because at that level those are givens. If you don't have skill doesn't matter how big you are unless you are 10ft wide and 8ft tall and then maybe scouted as a goalie.

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Because at that level those are givens. If you don't have skill doesn't matter how big you are unless you are 10ft wide and 8ft tall and then maybe scouted as a goalie.

One would think, then I watch the teams in the pipeline you mention and think "naaaaahhhh".

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Pretty interesting that "skillful" or "technically gifted" weren't mentioned.....

Of course the skill level and technical abilities are the foundation for every soccer player. Athleticism, strength, speed, quickness separate the development levels of the players being identified for top D1/P5 programs. You can teach/develop 18 players the same way to develop their skills and technical abilities. At the end of the season all is not equal because of these additional skills that you with have or don’t. Every player has a different threshold of physical attributes which you cannot teach. That’s in your DNA regardless the coach/trainer/club/team.

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Of course the skill level and technical abilities are the foundation for every soccer player. Athleticism, strength, speed, quickness separate the development levels of the players being identified for top D1/P5 programs. You can teach/develop 18 players the same way to develop their skills and technical abilities. At the end of the season all is not equal because of these additional skills that you with have or don’t. Every player has a different threshold of physical attributes which you cannot teach. That’s in your DNA regardless the coach/trainer/club/team.

LOL.

I can teach a dog to chase after a ball and to press relentlessly and to rely on their athletics. Some are pretty smart, too.

No, you can't teach skills the same to an entire squad. That line of thinking is why, technically, the US is behind in all factions of the game. That doesn't mean they don't win, but "technique" is not something colleges and the "pipeline" clubs worry about. At all.

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LOL.

I can teach a dog to chase after a ball and to press relentlessly and to rely on their athletics. Some are pretty smart, too.

No, you can't teach skills the same to an entire squad. That line of thinking is why, technically, the US is behind in all factions of the game. That doesn't mean they don't win, but "technique" is not something colleges and the "pipeline" clubs worry about. At all.

You have to be the same low IQ poster that keeps posts incredibly dumb posts. Where do the best woman play soccer again? Where are they primarily developed? What Clubs do they come from? The USWNT is extremely technical and more so than the men. The difference between the two is only strength and speed and by a large margin. Technical ability cannot keep up with pace of play.

Technique means absolutely nothing if you don't have pace of play. Also, in the end, it is about winning. A slightly less technical, faster, smarter player will always be taken over the slower, more technical player. Also, to find that perfect mix of technical, soccer IQ and physicality is extremely rare. Those are the girls that are invited to Camp. College teams will find the balance between the tow and adjust accordingly through recruiting. That makes the difference between a winning team and losing one.

The Men's team is beginning to finally make a turn for the better as well. Qualifying failure for 2018 was eye opening and there are already many many positive signs.

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You have to be the same low IQ poster that keeps posts incredibly dumb posts. Where do the best woman play soccer again? Where are they primarily developed? What Clubs do they come from? The USWNT is extremely technical and more so than the men. The difference between the two is only strength and speed and by a large margin. Technical ability cannot keep up with pace of play.

Technique means absolutely nothing if you don't have pace of play. Also, in the end, it is about winning. A slightly less technical, faster, smarter player will always be taken over the slower, more technical player. Also, to find that perfect mix of technical, soccer IQ and physicality is extremely rare. Those are the girls that are invited to Camp. College teams will find the balance between the tow and adjust accordingly through recruiting. That makes the difference between a winning team and losing one.

The Men's team is beginning to finally make a turn for the better as well. Qualifying failure for 2018 was eye opening and there are already many many positive signs.

Where do the best women play? European leagues.

Where are they developed? All over the world (but primarily in the US, France, Spain, and Germany)

What clubs do they come from? Various, again all over the world. Lyon, I believe, has had the most success through their ranks.

You made the common mistake of equating results with technical abilities. They are mutually exclusive. For many years, the US women relied solely on physical abilities to succeed. Nothing wrong with that. You do what works. Eventually, if all you reference and train on is the physical, it gets found out. Why do you think the women have improved technically in the last few years?

I just found it interesting while the self-fellating post was being written, it was all about physical attributes and nothing about technique. Seems that got your ire up since you went for the insult to start your reply off.

Woof!

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You have to be the same low IQ poster that keeps posts incredibly dumb posts. Where do the best woman play soccer again? Where are they primarily developed? What Clubs do they come from? The USWNT is extremely technical and more so than the men. The difference between the two is only strength and speed and by a large margin. Technical ability cannot keep up with pace of play.

Technique means absolutely nothing if you don't have pace of play. Also, in the end, it is about winning. A slightly less technical, faster, smarter player will always be taken over the slower, more technical player. Also, to find that perfect mix of technical, soccer IQ and physicality is extremely rare. Those are the girls that are invited to Camp. College teams will find the balance between the tow and adjust accordingly through recruiting. That makes the difference between a winning team and losing one.

The Men's team is beginning to finally make a turn for the better as well. Qualifying failure for 2018 was eye opening and there are already many many positive signs.

This person referred to someone else as "low IQ" and made about a half-dozen mistakes in their post. LOL.

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This person referred to someone else as "low IQ" and made about a half-dozen mistakes in their post. LOL.

I always love the English Police posters, ROFL.

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I always love the English Police posters, ROFL.

Not the OP, but I generally agree. The issue is when you are going to lead with a reference to a low IQ, you'd better be damn sure you have your own shop in order, first.

Carry on....