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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    ODP is better competition than GA??? Take cover, things are about to get rough here.
    For our team it is. My opinion but again I know ODP is an all star team compared with regular club team.

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      #17
      The last two posts are about ECNL players not making the ODP roster and ODP competition being better than GA. Is there a different ODP you guys are talking about?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I’ve got no love for the ECNL marketing bs but this post could not be further from the truth
        My daughter's ODP roster has at least 3 girls that are wearing PDA shirts in their pic. I'm calling BS on these "ECNL girls don't tryout for ODP teams" ****.

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          #19
          The girls that I know that play ODP, weren’t even starters on their club team- so might want to pump the brakes on the “All star teams” lol. Wow, kind of crazy to think that’s the case -

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            There are MANY ECNL top players that did not make ODP. They claimed they didn’t show up but there were ALL there. PDA Blue girls at all ages. The tryouts were flooded with all top ECNL clubs and many did not make the cut. Not because they aren’t good but because not every player at ECNL is better than everyone else and when put against all talent across the state they don’t always stand out. Reminder - ECNL teams elect themselves. For example: PDA has 3 ECNL teams at each age group and two (white and south) are not even close to the level of a mid local rec team. Yet they are elected by themselves to ECNL.
            Most ECNL players and other "good" players didn't make ODP simple because they don't play like they are part of a team. When you have players that would rather barrel through 3-4 players to get a shot off instead of passing or can score 3-4 goals a game but take 30-40 shots those aren't the qualities ODP looks for.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              My daughter's ODP roster has at least 3 girls that are wearing PDA shirts in their pic. I'm calling BS on these "ECNL girls don't tryout for ODP teams" ****.
              My D's with PDA ECNL and on ODP. She's a starter and plays 60%+ for PDA. She also has one of her team mates on her team and a few others that tried out but either didn't make day 2 or didn't bother to show up. Don't know, never asked.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                My D's with PDA ECNL and on ODP. She's a starter and plays 60%+ for PDA. She also has one of her team mates on her team and a few others that tried out but either didn't make day 2 or didn't bother to show up. Don't know, never asked.
                This thread and it's posts are just typical TS trolling. ODP is similar to State Cup being U13 or older that are on ECNL or GA clubs are encouraged not to participate. Many of these teams are actually told they cannot do ODP because it is not worth it because the level of competition is less than ECNL/GA. ODP also conflicts directly with ECNL practices, games and tournaments. Exceptions might be made for deep bench players.

                ODP is beneficial for smaller clubs and township players who are top players on their team respectfully. The training by ODP coaches is honestly a joke. The games are worth it for the players but the ultimate goal is to make it to the summer invite only training camp. That actually just changed a few years ago.

                As a parent that has now been on both sides, my opinion is in line with the above. Players in EDP or lesser leagues should make an effort to play in ODP. Players in ECNL or GA should avoid ODP with the exception of the players who do not get a lot of playing time.

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                  #23
                  WE ARE THE SHORE! State Cup Champs 2021!!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The girls that I know that play ODP, weren’t even starters on their club team- so might want to pump the brakes on the “All star teams” lol. Wow, kind of crazy to think that’s the case -
                    Compared to our GA team it is a step up. Perhaps an isolated situation. Either way ODP has been a good experience better training etc. Just wish it did not conflict with the regular team training.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This thread and it's posts are just typical TS trolling. ODP is similar to State Cup being U13 or older that are on ECNL or GA clubs are encouraged not to participate. Many of these teams are actually told they cannot do ODP because it is not worth it because the level of competition is less than ECNL/GA. ODP also conflicts directly with ECNL practices, games and tournaments. Exceptions might be made for deep bench players.

                      ODP is beneficial for smaller clubs and township players who are top players on their team respectfully. The training by ODP coaches is honestly a joke. The games are worth it for the players but the ultimate goal is to make it to the summer invite only training camp. That actually just changed a few years ago.

                      As a parent that has now been on both sides, my opinion is in line with the above. Players in EDP or lesser leagues should make an effort to play in ODP. Players in ECNL or GA should avoid ODP with the exception of the players who do not get a lot of playing time.
                      This is an accurate assessment. Thanks for taking time to write that.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        This thread and it's posts are just typical TS trolling. ODP is similar to State Cup being U13 or older that are on ECNL or GA clubs are encouraged not to participate. Many of these teams are actually told they cannot do ODP because it is not worth it because the level of competition is less than ECNL/GA. ODP also conflicts directly with ECNL practices, games and tournaments. Exceptions might be made for deep bench players.

                        ODP is beneficial for smaller clubs and township players who are top players on their team respectfully. The training by ODP coaches is honestly a joke. The games are worth it for the players but the ultimate goal is to make it to the summer invite only training camp. That actually just changed a few years ago.

                        As a parent that has now been on both sides, my opinion is in line with the above. Players in EDP or lesser leagues should make an effort to play in ODP. Players in ECNL or GA should avoid ODP with the exception of the players who do not get a lot of playing time.
                        I agree, except that my D likes ODP and playing against and with new players while learning from different coaches.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Compared to our GA team it is a step up. Perhaps an isolated situation. Either way ODP has been a good experience better training etc. Just wish it did not conflict with the regular team training.
                          Might be the case for some GA clubs/teams but not for all. Either way if you enjoy ODP then by all means do it.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            ODP is trash in NJ. Nobody I know that plays in the higher level leagues even sends their kids to do the tryouts so the kids who end up making these teams are the kids who couldn’t make the higher level clubs top teams.
                            #word

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              #word
                              That’s BS, top players who don’t tryout, or don’t want to play every day to prove they’re the best, are just FRAGILE!

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                ODP is trash in NJ. Nobody I know that plays in the higher level leagues even sends their kids to do the tryouts so the kids who end up making these teams are the kids who couldn’t make the higher level clubs top teams.
                                I have boys who went through the ODP program, academy, and are in college, both playing.

                                ODP is run better now than it was 10 years ago when they kept kids in the program because they came from top clubs. It is unbiased today, tryouts every year.

                                Players in academies are privileged, some players going from club to club, Red Bull’s to CSA to PDA to Philly Union and back, and the coaches just start the newly acquired players. There is no competition.

                                So when you tell those players they have to tryout like everyone else, they break down, like the low mental toughness they have.

                                Also, it wasn’t until DA, now MLS Next, where I first saw a team get outplayed, and give up. It WASN’T at the town level where I first saw that. And the teams are exactly same, so there was no reason for mental breakdowns!

                                ODP gives kids a chance to get out of the *****ty situation they’re in. They should use it!

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