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    #31
    Being a 2008 team, what is going to happen is that "Trapped" 2007 players (8th graders in 2021/2022 not high school) will be allowed to play down with 2008's. Since the 2008's on the A team will have to absorb these trapped players, they will force some A team players down to B to get them enough run without demoting them and have them leave the club and further decline your numbers.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Coaches rarely think about whats best for the child mainly because their main agenda is to retain all players at all costs. This has been my experience especially ones that have player pools. Not being able to field another team is not the norm most teams do
      You mean paying players at all costs. They'll usually let some of the scholarship players drop off if they can find near equal paying ones.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        it is a 2008 team. They have 24 or 26 I believe between the 2 teams. Trying to nail down a number
        Is this a north or south club? And does the A team play in a different league ie GA? I only know of a handful of GA/USYS clubs that have issues with a 2nd team so you are most likely talking about STA, CSA:Monmouth or SJEB. May be one or two township teams that have 2 but not spending the time to check. I would suspect, if these are correct, the club will use the A team players to win to make the club look better overall while getting more time for their A team players. If your D went to 6 practices already for the new club and she likes the girls and coach and you don't mind cutting ties to the old club then do it. I will say though that some coaches are d-bags and won't take a player bag if they leave as an example to the others. Or might just think she is replaceable anyway.

        GL to you and your D.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Being a 2008 team, what is going to happen is that "Trapped" 2007 players (8th graders in 2021/2022 not high school) will be allowed to play down with 2008's. Since the 2008's on the A team will have to absorb these trapped players, they will force some A team players down to B to get them enough run without demoting them and have them leave the club and further decline your numbers.
          Not every league allows for that. They would have the 08s play up at 07 with the trapped players if anything for EDP.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You mean paying players at all costs. They'll usually let some of the scholarship players drop off if they can find near equal paying ones.
            .

            Paying or non paying players it doesn't make a difference the competition is fierce and highly political between clubs in the area. They take it personal when a paying or non paying person leaves. Finding a player who is willing to pay to play and to wear the club logo is very easy in this ripe and booming market. For more info there was research done that back up keeping players as opposed to losing them YOY, i believe the potential missed earnings is in the millions.

            I think a pooling system where all the players get the same level of coaches, and game experience would make sense. Unfortunately most of the programs I have seen assign a less experienced coach to the "less ready kids" and then take away their playing time by giving it the more experienced kids. Its a logic that again gives the more ready players more experience while the ones that need it are told to learn from the ones that are ready. Kids learning decision making from kids is comical. If you dont it believe try watching your average tier 1 game, you are a super hero if you stay away more than 10 minutes.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              You mean paying players at all costs. They'll usually let some of the scholarship players drop off if they can find near equal paying ones.
              .

              Paying or non paying players it doesn't make a difference the competition is fierce and highly political between clubs in the area. They take it personal when a paying or non paying person leaves. Finding a player who is willing to pay to play and to wear the club logo is very easy in this ripe and booming market. For more info there was research done that back up keeping players as opposed to losing them YOY, i believe the potential missed earnings is in the millions.

              I think a pooling system where all the players get the same level of coaches, and game experience would make sense. Unfortunately most of the programs I have seen assign a less experienced coach to the "less ready kids" and then take away their playing time by giving it the more experienced kids. Its a logic that again gives the more ready players more experience while the ones that need it are told to learn from the ones that are ready. Kids learning decision making from kids is comical. If you dont it believe try watching your average tier 1 game, you are a super hero if you stay awake more than 10 minutes.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                it is a 2008 team. They have 24 or 26 I believe between the 2 teams. Trying to nail down a number
                For 11v11, I've always felt like 13 players is the ideal to bring to a game. So if you have 26, splitting the teams 13 and 13 for game-day is actually quite good. You'll have 2 subs, and as long as it's not ECNL with the no-re-entry sub rule, I don't think you'll have to worry about players not getting enough playing time.

                You may run into two issues: (1) players (or rather their parents) on the A team may complain about having to play on the B team, and (2) injuries might still leave you with short rosters. In the case of (1), find out how they plan on choosing which players play with the B team each week. If they have every player on the A team take turns on the B team, it might be more readily-accepted. But if they say "bottom of the A roster will play with the B team", then it becomes problematic because then "playing with the B team" feels more like a judgement against the player. For (2), certainly the A team will get priority over the B team in terms of making sure there are enough players on the roster for game-day. You may find the club giving you younger players for game day or "guest players".

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  For 11v11, I've always felt like 13 players is the ideal to bring to a game. So if you have 26, splitting the teams 13 and 13 for game-day is actually quite good. You'll have 2 subs, and as long as it's not ECNL with the no-re-entry sub rule, I don't think you'll have to worry about players not getting enough playing time.

                  You may run into two issues: (1) players (or rather their parents) on the A team may complain about having to play on the B team, and (2) injuries might still leave you with short rosters. In the case of (1), find out how they plan on choosing which players play with the B team each week. If they have every player on the A team take turns on the B team, it might be more readily-accepted. But if they say "bottom of the A roster will play with the B team", then it becomes problematic because then "playing with the B team" feels more like a judgement against the player. For (2), certainly the A team will get priority over the B team in terms of making sure there are enough players on the roster for game-day. You may find the club giving you younger players for game day or "guest players".
                  13? 2 subs? Have you tried playing in the heat here? 16 sure but 13?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    13? 2 subs? Have you tried playing in the heat here? 16 sure but 13?
                    Are you talking about the summer? Or the regular club year? September-June is rarely if ever so hot that you need more than 2 subs. Having 2 subs available with no restrictive substitution rules is more than enough to give multiple players enough of a break over the course of a whole game. Of course, this assumes that players are able to play multiple positions, and a coach knows his players well enough to shift players appropriately when certain players are out.

                    D played 10 years of youth soccer (she is in college now) and 13 was the number where everyone felt great about their playing time. Agree that it might be different in the summer when it's hotter/more humid, but for fall and spring seasons 13 should be perfect.

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