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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    MFA plays 10 players on ECNL down to ECRL to get the wins!

    MFA ECNL roster size averages 26.
    I think ECNL rules say that only 4 players can play down on a particular day.

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      MF is known for the bait and switch
      They bring girls over for ECNL then put them on the ECRL team
      Also will bring in girls mid season for free and give them more playing time to get them to commit to next year
      Typical soccer money grab
      Lot of better options for development, DB sells the ECNL badge

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        MF is known for the bait and switch
        They bring girls over for ECNL then put them on the ECRL team
        Also will bring in girls mid season for free and give them more playing time to get them to commit to next year
        Typical soccer money grab
        Lot of better options for development, DB sells the ECNL badge
        Seriously, while you may be right other clubs pull the same stunts. It’s a shame because lots of kids and families are misled for one reason and one reason only $$$. There is very little integrity and genuinely good people in today’s youth soccer environment.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Seriously, while you may be right other clubs pull the same stunts. It’s a shame because lots of kids and families are misled for one reason and one reason only $$$. There is very little integrity and genuinely good people in today’s youth soccer environment.
          Know a few girls from our town who play MF ECRL. From what it sounds like talk to their parents, pretty common for ECNL girls to play down to ECRL, but rarely do kids move up. My impression is many parents choose ECRL because they see it as a foot in the door and a chance to earn a way up to ECRL. But honestly, how common is that, not just at MF, but at ECNL in general? Seems like more of a one-way street from everything I hear.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Know a few girls from our town who play MF ECRL. From what it sounds like talk to their parents, pretty common for ECNL girls to play down to ECRL, but rarely do kids move up. My impression is many parents choose ECRL because they see it as a foot in the door and a chance to earn a way up to ECRL. But honestly, how common is that, not just at MF, but at ECNL in general? Seems like more of a one-way street from everything I hear.

            ...earn a way up to ECNL, that is....

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              MFA plays 10 players on ECNL down to ECRL to get the wins!

              MFA ECNL roster size averages 26.
              Not even close. Go the website and count them. A few of their teams are carrying less than 20. The ones with the larger rosters have many duel carded kids that mostly play with another team. BTW, what do you care unless you are some wacko who spends their time bashing clubs and people.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Not even close. Go the website and count them. A few of their teams are carrying less than 20. The ones with the larger rosters have many duel carded kids that mostly play with another team. BTW, what do you care unless you are some wacko who spends their time bashing clubs and people.
                Many clubs operate that - they move kids around depending needs, availability etc either between A and B teams or by age if eligible. Only 18 can roster on game day but more can dress for showcases. Clubs have done this for years no matter what leagues they were playing in (assuming it was allowed by league rules).

                And here's the thing - if you're not happy because of big rosters and your kid not playing? Then just leave. If your kid isn't playing it's more because it's not a good fit for them. If it was a good fit they would be starting or at least first off the bench.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Not even close. Go the website and count them. A few of their teams are carrying less than 20. The ones with the larger rosters have many duel carded kids that mostly play with another team. BTW, what do you care unless you are some wacko who spends their time bashing clubs and people.
                  Just took a quick look at the MFA U13 ECNL and ECRL rosters. ECNL has 29, ECRL has 23. Only one player listed on both rosters.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Just took a quick look at the MFA U13 ECNL and ECRL rosters. ECNL has 29, ECRL has 23. Only one player listed on both rosters.
                    You’re correct, absolutely crazy how many are carried. At one point my friend’s son MF team had 34, yup 34. Just insane....

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Know a few girls from our town who play MF ECRL. From what it sounds like talk to their parents, pretty common for ECNL girls to play down to ECRL, but rarely do kids move up. My impression is many parents choose ECRL because they see it as a foot in the door and a chance to earn a way up to ECRL. But honestly, how common is that, not just at MF, but at ECNL in general? Seems like more of a one-way street from everything I hear.
                      I live in a different state and my D's club was pretty straight forward about ECRL when she tried out. They told us that they had considered her for ECNL at one point during the process, but in the end the team was already very strong and the coach just didn't see her getting PT over any of the players he already had. Said the likelihood of her moving onto the ECNL team was very minimal at best and if we weren't comfortable with ECRL we shouldn't take it, because they were treating the ECRL team as it's own entity and only wanted players that wanted to be there.

                      My D decided she wanted to be there and even turned down an offer from a local GDA team (friends on the GDA team told us we were crazy), but it was a great decision for her. Her team is very strong, she loves her teammates, her coach is wonderful and has been incredible helping her with recruiting and getting her opportunities to be "seen" in this crazy pandemic. So I guess it all depends on the club and what other options are available. For us, ECRL was the best option.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I live in a different state and my D's club was pretty straight forward about ECRL when she tried out. They told us that they had considered her for ECNL at one point during the process, but in the end the team was already very strong and the coach just didn't see her getting PT over any of the players he already had. Said the likelihood of her moving onto the ECNL team was very minimal at best and if we weren't comfortable with ECRL we shouldn't take it, because they were treating the ECRL team as it's own entity and only wanted players that wanted to be there.

                        My D decided she wanted to be there and even turned down an offer from a local GDA team (friends on the GDA team told us we were crazy), but it was a great decision for her. Her team is very strong, she loves her teammates, her coach is wonderful and has been incredible helping her with recruiting and getting her opportunities to be "seen" in this crazy pandemic. So I guess it all depends on the club and what other options are available. For us, ECRL was the best option.
                        My D had similar experience (no offer from GDA team, but offers from A-teams at other notable clubs), ended up on ECRL team without any illusions that it would lead to a spot on ECNL. Ended up much happier as the ECRL coach was actually better than the ECNL coach, and the players were a good group of kids who ended up having great chemistry. Disclaimer that this was for a New England Conference club (not North Atlantic Conference).

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                          Suspect some kids / parents might choose ECRL because of the “mystique “ of saying you are from a certain club, even though that reputation has been earned by other teams at the club.

                          This fall, for instance, some of the parents of our HS team were in awe that we had 5 MF players on our varsity roster. Then the games started and the team and some of the MF players were ordinary. I later learned that 4 of the 5 played ECRL and at least one wasn’t even getting rostered regularly on that team. Don’t think some parents ever understood what was going on. Blamed the coach for a mediocre season. How can you have so many big club players and not be better?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Suspect some kids / parents might choose ECRL because of the “mystique “ of saying you are from a certain club, even though that reputation has been earned by other teams at the club.

                            This fall, for instance, some of the parents of our HS team were in awe that we had 5 MF players on our varsity roster. Then the games started and the team and some of the MF players were ordinary. I later learned that 4 of the 5 played ECRL and at least one wasn’t even getting rostered regularly on that team. Don’t think some parents ever understood what was going on. Blamed the coach for a mediocre season. How can you have so many big club players and not be better?
                            This is exactly what it was before with the NE NPL league. New patch, still B teams, with a great deal of variability from top to bottom of the roster. No need to just bash one club when they all do it.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I live in a different state and my D's club was pretty straight forward about ECRL when she tried out. They told us that they had considered her for ECNL at one point during the process, but in the end the team was already very strong and the coach just didn't see her getting PT over any of the players he already had. Said the likelihood of her moving onto the ECNL team was very minimal at best and if we weren't comfortable with ECRL we shouldn't take it, because they were treating the ECRL team as it's own entity and only wanted players that wanted to be there.

                              My D decided she wanted to be there and even turned down an offer from a local GDA team (friends on the GDA team told us we were crazy), but it was a great decision for her. Her team is very strong, she loves her teammates, her coach is wonderful and has been incredible helping her with recruiting and getting her opportunities to be "seen" in this crazy pandemic. So I guess it all depends on the club and what other options are available. For us, ECRL was the best option.
                              I think in general most do operate that way. Also, parents should be asking the hard questions. If you didn't, you are in part to blame.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Suspect some kids / parents might choose ECRL because of the “mystique “ of saying you are from a certain club, even though that reputation has been earned by other teams at the club.

                                This fall, for instance, some of the parents of our HS team were in awe that we had 5 MF players on our varsity roster. Then the games started and the team and some of the MF players were ordinary. I later learned that 4 of the 5 played ECRL and at least one wasn’t even getting rostered regularly on that team. Don’t think some parents ever understood what was going on. Blamed the coach for a mediocre season. How can you have so many big club players and not be better?
                                ECRL is very low level compared to ECNL, USYS EDP Div 1 and even GA. Same thing happened to our HS team, thought they would be much better with girls wearing their PDA shirts and bragging they play for PDA....little did we know they were ECRL and not ECNL players. There is a big difference.

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