ECRL League

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You’re right CCSU does have a great manager. Does a lot with players from much “lower” levels than PDA. Rutgers plays ugly non creative football which is shocking for a squad with so many highly touted players.

Touted by who? Do they play great soccer at PDA? How many College or Club programs play attractive soccer? Your expectations seem unrealistic.

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Please explain how they could have done that? Parents pay. Professional WoSo in the USA pays on average 25k per year. Thats equivalent to 1/3 of a year at College. The USSF overvalued soccer. There is no structure outside of the USSF paying for everything under which a GDA can compete or complement with the existing Club structure.

USSF and the Nat'l team are sitting on a massive kitty of cash. They could have

- created something much smaller, for the uber elite players in the nation, and covered the costs or at least subsidized it.

- started with the younger players, where high school wasn't an issue yet, and built the quality and reputation from there, adding older teams year by year.

- started with a regional rollout (west coast to start) and proven the quality from there

Instead they went for volume - all ages, far too many clubs that are only ok at best, all regions. It was a massive undertaking by a poorly run organization. They also underestimated the strength of ECNL and the importance of high school soccer to some players, even top players.

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That's great. That's how they play. But still pointing to their demeanor when they are up 2-0 is pointless and a bad example to support your point.

His point is that they were not playing to protect their lead ...no stalling..no blindly kicking the ball out of bounds at the slightest pressure in the def half.....they continued to play the exact same way they started the game.

My D has played up thru ECNL and yes I can tell you with 22-28 or more on a roster and only 15-18 allowed to dress each game...it fosters a selfish try to stand out to coach atmosphere so instead of making that extra pass or taking your defender away from the play without the ball...many players attempt to go it alone and take bad shots....and that transfers over to games as well...which will not lead to any real soccer dev...

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USSF and the Nat'l team are sitting on a massive kitty of cash. They could have

- created something much smaller, for the uber elite players in the nation, and covered the costs or at least subsidized it.

- started with the younger players, where high school wasn't an issue yet, and built the quality and reputation from there, adding older teams year by year.

- started with a regional rollout (west coast to start) and proven the quality from there

Instead they went for volume - all ages, far too many clubs that are only ok at best, all regions. It was a massive undertaking by a poorly run organization. They also underestimated the strength of ECNL and the importance of high school soccer to some players, even top players.

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The USA is a big country. They already have YNT programming. Kids are going to school etc. The whole notion of the National Team/ Federation being the sponsor of soccer is nonsense. You can only spend money on player development if there is money in it. There is none. The only way to build what you imply is if it was a necessary part of a real professional pathway that pays real money.

Just face it, the current system has evolved to serve the demand. Anything else is suboptimal and will fail.

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They tried to fix a problem that did not exist. It was solely about power and control, a well run mission focused US Soccer would have partnered with US Club. There have been some good changes at US Soccer, so let's hope they stay mission focused which should be winning World Cups.

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USSF stumbled when they made the rollout about squashing ECNL rather than being the "best of the best" league they had originally sold it as. It was way too big, which meant too many players teams and clubs that shouldn't have been it.

I agree working with ECNL is the best bet at this point. Their credibility is shot for 5+ years at least if they wanted to try something else, and OPD has long been on life support.

GA is a laughingstock let’s face it why would clubs even jump to second rate ECRL to get out??? Sorry USSF screwed up big time.

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They tried to fix a problem that did not exist. It was solely about power and control, a well run mission focused US Soccer would have partnered with US Club. There have been some good changes at US Soccer, so let's hope they stay mission focused which should be winning World Cups.

To them a problem certainly exists. You can continue winning world cups in the current system because volume alone gets the US to every KO round and anything can happen in one off games. USSF see other countries where more and more girls are gaining access to professional environments and they worry about it.

Clubs will always have a different agenda to the USSF

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My daughters team used to play in Alliance league and is now in this ECRL. Did they just rename the old Alliance league?

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My daughters team used to play in Alliance league and is now in this ECRL. Did they just rename the old Alliance league?

Are the teams all the same as the Alliance League? If so, then yes.

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Are the teams all the same as the Alliance League? If so, then yes.

The Alliance league wasn’t meant to replace ECRL but to offer more games to clubs that had big rosters and wanted more games for kids, or for 3rd teams at some clubs. The ECRL existed before Alliance and continues after Alliance collapsed. At the club we were at there was an unusually large roster for both ECNL and for ECRL. Some kids were promised extra games in Alliance if they weren’t getting it in ECRL.

Be interesting to hear what’s going on at some clubs in place of Alliance. We know some kids from our HS who played at MF ECRL, and there are just too many kids and not enough ECRL games to give everyone good minutes.

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The Alliance league wasn’t meant to replace ECRL but to offer more games to clubs that had big rosters and wanted more games for kids, or for 3rd teams at some clubs. The ECRL existed before Alliance and continues after Alliance collapsed. At the club we were at there was an unusually large roster for both ECNL and for ECRL. Some kids were promised extra games in Alliance if they weren’t getting it in ECRL.

Be interesting to hear what’s going on at some clubs in place of Alliance. We know some kids from our HS who played at MF ECRL, and there are just too many kids and not enough ECRL games to give everyone good minutes.

My understanding was that Alliance League was for younger teams up to U13. ECRL doesn't start until U12 (and many of the member clubs don't add teams until U13).

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My understanding was that Alliance League was for younger teams up to U13. ECRL doesn't start until U12 (and many of the member clubs don't add teams until U13).

My wife sat in on a MF parent meeting shortly after Alliance was announced. Parents were told point blank EDP charged a lot in league fees and Alliance was going to be a more affordable option that clubs were putting together. Was supposed to be eventually for all the younger teams, but parents in at least one ECRL age group were told this would be a third league for them the next fall.

Think the club was shocked how few other clubs signed on, and especially how little interest there was beyond the youngest ages. Apparently not many clubs were as outraged by EDP fees, or didn’t carry so many kids on rosters that they needed yet another league alternative.

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MFA goes to ECNL 30 player limits for ECNL/ECRL. That’s 60 players. And they typically roster 15 for a game. That’s 30 players sitting out. $3,000 per sitting player. That’s $90,000 stolen from sitting player parents each year from DB and JR from MFA.

DB/JR - Brilliant

Parents- STUPID

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MFA goes to ECNL 30 player limits for ECNL/ECRL. That’s 60 players. And they typically roster 15 for a game. That’s 30 players sitting out. $3,000 per sitting player. That’s $90,000 stolen from sitting player parents each year from DB and JR from MFA.

DB/JR - Brilliant

Parents- STUPID

In theory, you are paying for more than just games but we get your point.

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MFA goes to ECNL 30 player limits for ECNL/ECRL. That’s 60 players. And they typically roster 15 for a game. That’s 30 players sitting out. $3,000 per sitting player. That’s $90,000 stolen from sitting player parents each year from DB and JR from MFA.

DB/JR - Brilliant

Parents- STUPID

Are you sure that's true? I know some ECNL/ECRL clubs will put a number of players on both rosters to make game-day guest-playing easier from an admin perspective. If you just look at the number of players on each roster, it looks like there are 30 and 30, but often times you'll see 6-7 players that appear on both rosters, so it's more like 30 and 23 (or vice versa)