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    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    Dude at U13..they are still u12 at Acela.
    Wow, you must think MLS Next is the Champions League or the World Cup. U13, U12, whatever: players won't go from a strong team team to a weak team just because it is in a league that did not exist a couple of years ago and may not exist a couple of years from now. It will exist if it lets in the high performing clubs, so no need for players to leave those clubs and go to weaker ones to join MLS Next. In theory, the MLS youth academies want good competition, but as someone else pointed out in another post a while ago, they really don't. They are just looking to find the top kids that other clubs developed and they want to avoid losing at all costs to non-MLS academy clubs, which would be very embarrassing. They don't want competition at this age. If a kid is good enough to play for one of the very few MLS academies at U15 and beyond, then he has a shot at the pros. In the meantime, for a good player to movie to a weaker MLS Next club makes no sense and won't happen.

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      Wow, you must think MLS Next is the Champions League or the World Cup. U13, U12, whatever: players won't go from a strong team team to a weak team just because it is in a league that did not exist a couple of years ago and may not exist a couple of years from now. It will exist if it lets in the high performing clubs, so no need for players to leave those clubs and go to weaker ones to join MLS Next. In theory, the MLS youth academies want good competition, but as someone else pointed out in another post a while ago, they really don't. They are just looking to find the top kids that other clubs developed and they want to avoid losing at all costs to non-MLS academy clubs, which would be very embarrassing. They don't want competition at this age. If a kid is good enough to play for one of the very few MLS academies at U15 and beyond, then he has a shot at the pros. In the meantime, for a good player to movie to a weaker MLS Next club makes no sense and won't happen.
      Pretty much you are saying players will stay on strong teams like Liverpool, Union, Bloomfield & FA Vs. going to an MLS academy? I have some news for you, at U12 some of the mentioned teams don’t exist anymore! The ones that are left are still strong! They been together for a long time (amazing loyalty) fast forward to U13, how will things look like then? Most of the top academies have 2 decent Pre MLS teams, competing towards creating 1 strong MLS team for U13. Some of the parents recognize the competition and will make the right move for their children.

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        [QUOTE=Guest;n4408058]

        The Acela league table for the 2011 age group shows that some MLS Next teams are not that good, while some non-MLS Next teams are quite good. If MLS Next wants to survive it will ask the good teams to join and ask the weak teams to leave. Otherwise, it will be disbanded like all its predecessors. So there will be no "ghost towns". Players will not leave a strong team to go to a weak team just because it is in MLS Next.[/QUOTE
        MLS Next is not asking any team to join if their club is not a part of the MLS Next system. They know that eventually if the kids in other leagues are talented enough, parents will move them to MLS Next Club. They don’t give a dam about a team playing in the Acela league. If this was the case both Union and Red Bulls would have thief u13 and 14 continue to compete in the league. You may not move your kid to a weaker MLS Next team but I guarantee you parents from that same team will. No good team stays together for ever and I have experience that. When the scouts come calling, try talking a parent out of leaving, especially when the scouts say your kid plays for FREE.

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          Pretty much you are saying players will stay on strong teams like Liverpool, Union, Bloomfield & FA Vs. going to an MLS academy? I have some news for you, at U12 some of the mentioned teams don’t exist anymore! The ones that are left are still strong! They been together for a long time (amazing loyalty) fast forward to U13, how will things look like then? Most of the top academies have 2 decent Pre MLS teams, competing towards creating 1 strong MLS team for U13. Some of the parents recognize the competition and will make the right move for their children.
          But all those teams will have 2 MLS Next teams, so assume each club will be 30 +/- roster spots for players, we are lucky in NJ we have a lot of good teams so there are roster spots. But a lot of the good kids from teams that don't have MLS Next teams will be moving to new clubs

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            [QUOTE=Guest;n4408178]
            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            The Acela league table for the 2011 age group shows that some MLS Next teams are not that good, while some non-MLS Next teams are quite good. If MLS Next wants to survive it will ask the good teams to join and ask the weak teams to leave. Otherwise, it will be disbanded like all its predecessors. So there will be no "ghost towns". Players will not leave a strong team to go to a weak team just because it is in MLS Next.[/QUOTE
            MLS Next is not asking any team to join if their club is not a part of the MLS Next system. They know that eventually if the kids in other leagues are talented enough, parents will move them to MLS Next Club. They don’t give a dam about a team playing in the Acela league. If this was the case both Union and Red Bulls would have thief u13 and 14 continue to compete in the league. You may not move your kid to a weaker MLS Next team but I guarantee you parents from that same team will. No good team stays together for ever and I have experience that. When the scouts come calling, try talking a parent out of leaving, especially when the scouts say your kid plays for FREE.
            MLS Next is adding new teams. They started with about 96 teams in 2020, now they have 133. The application form is right on their website:https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/application/. Unless that is a sham, what I am saying is the strong clubs will get in, so their players will not need to move. I am also making a distinction between the actual MLS academies (RB, NYCFC, Philly Union), and the rest of the MLS Next clubs, some of which are good and some are not. So yes, if a kid is good enough to win a spot at on the RB, NYCFC or Philly Union, they should try it. But going to another weaker club just because it is already in MLS Next makes no sense.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              But all those teams will have 2 MLS Next teams, so assume each club will be 30 +/- roster spots for players, we are lucky in NJ we have a lot of good teams so there are roster spots. But a lot of the good kids from teams that don't have MLS Next teams will be moving to new clubs
              There are only 5 MLS Next teams in NJ, other than RB: CSA Bergen, CSA Monmouth, PDA, Real NJ and TSF. That is not a lot. More are needed, which is why MLS Next needs to expand, which it is. I suppose they could deliberately reject other strong clubs so they can steal their players instead. But a business model that says we don't develop good players, we just wait for good players to come to us because we will keep the MLS door shut is pathetic and does not help grow the game.

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                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                There are only 5 MLS Next teams in NJ, other than RB: CSA Bergen, CSA Monmouth, PDA, Real NJ and TSF. That is not a lot. More are needed, which is why MLS Next needs to expand, which it is. I suppose they could deliberately reject other strong clubs so they can steal their players instead. But a business model that says we don't develop good players, we just wait for good players to come to us because we will keep the MLS door shut is pathetic and does not help grow the game.
                Disagree that more are needed and will be added to MLS next. It’s already starting to be too crowded and diluted. In addition to the 3 local MLS teams (NYCFC, Red Bull and Union) there are the 5 NJ based MLS Next clubs you mentioned. Throw in the NY based MLS Next teams that are close to NJ. That is NYSC, FC Westchester, BW Gottschee, Met Oval and FA Euro. Also the PA based MLS Next club FC Delco. That’s 14 MLS and MLS Next clubs within a close proximity of each other. No more teams are needed/wanted.

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                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  Disagree that more are needed and will be added to MLS next. It’s already starting to be too crowded and diluted. In addition to the 3 local MLS teams (NYCFC, Red Bull and Union) there are the 5 NJ based MLS Next clubs you mentioned. Throw in the NY based MLS Next teams that are close to NJ. That is NYSC, FC Westchester, BW Gottschee, Met Oval and FA Euro. Also the PA based MLS Next club FC Delco. That’s 14 MLS and MLS Next clubs within a close proximity of each other. No more teams are needed/wanted.
                  NJ is a densely populated state. No kid is going to drive two hours one way to go to Westchester, Queens or Philadelphia 3 times a week. MLS Next has been adding teams, as they should. If it's getting diluted, maybe some current teams need to be dropped.

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    NJ is a densely populated state. No kid is going to drive two hours one way to go to Westchester, Queens or Philadelphia 3 times a week. MLS Next has been adding teams, as they should. If it's getting diluted, maybe some current teams need to be dropped.
                    it would be 4 times a week at u13 and older. There are currently many kids driving 90 min plus to play on MLS teams. The current teams aren’t getting dropped. This is not an area in need of more teams. Are there more deserving teams? Maybe, but that doesn’t really matter. Other areas of the country have much further travel currently and that’s why teams are needed and added.

                    this year they only added 8 teams.

                    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-n...2022-23-season

                    2 years ago they added 24 teams for their 2nd year.

                    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-n...21-2022-season

                    I would guess the number of teams added continues to decrease.

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                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      NJ is a densely populated state. No kid is going to drive two hours one way to go to Westchester, Queens or Philadelphia 3 times a week.
                      News flash, that’s already happening. There are 3 current 2011 Union players from NJ, and not just south Jersey. Two boys drive 2 hours each way 4x a week and the other one is closer to an hour. There are some others in the younger ages of the pre-academy too. Other kids come from quite far (1.5 hours plus) in other directions as well Soccer parents are psycho.

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                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        News flash, that’s already happening. There are 3 current 2011 Union players from NJ, and not just south Jersey. Two boys drive 2 hours each way 4x a week and the other one is closer to an hour. There are some others in the younger ages of the pre-academy too. Other kids come from quite far (1.5 hours plus) in other directions as well Soccer parents are psycho.
                        I feel sorry for those kids. Psycho indeed. School is not important for those families I guess.

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                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          it would be 4 times a week at u13 and older. There are currently many kids driving 90 min plus to play on MLS teams. The current teams aren’t getting dropped. This is not an area in need of more teams. Are there more deserving teams? Maybe, but that doesn’t really matter. Other areas of the country have much further travel currently and that’s why teams are needed and added.

                          this year they only added 8 teams.

                          https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-n...2022-23-season

                          2 years ago they added 24 teams for their 2nd year.

                          https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-n...21-2022-season

                          I would guess the number of teams added continues to decrease.
                          A lost cause, then. Let's see how long this system lasts.

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            I feel sorry for those kids. Psycho indeed. School is not important for those families I guess.
                            You need help man.. how is that related to school in any way? Is your child that far behind where they need 4 hours of school work a night after being in school all day?

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              You need help man.. how is that related to school in any way? Is your child that far behind where they need 4 hours of school work a night after being in school all day?
                              Thanks for the insult. I am sure your child is a genius and/or the next Messi and does not need school. For the rest of us who are less gifted than you, life is a bit different. Drive safely.

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                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                Thanks for the insult. I am sure your child is a genius and/or the next Messi and does not need school. For the rest of us who are less gifted than you, life is a bit different. Drive safely.
                                you implied that school isn’t important to someone and said they were a psycho, but you got Butt hurt over those comments? You know school ends at 2-3pm for most. Kids. Not sure why you imply again that someone doesn’t need school. Are you not able to attend soccer practice after school?

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