If Guest players are allowed from EDP then who cares!! It’s within the rules, you can do the same if you choose to. If you don’t it’s better for your team (more playing time for the team players) one of my friends (the guy has very good knowledge about youth soccer) he said the best high level teams have 2-3 players on the bench..which came out to be true. It’s youth soccer! Let the boys play! This is the time to learn and develop. Wins are good and fun (earn you bragging rights sometimes) but those wins won’t matter 1-2 years from now. Keep them playing!
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Originally posted by Guest View PostOne of the funniest things about this weekend's tournaments is when clubs and parents post that they "won the "X" tournament" and "are champions", but they really won the 3rd, 4th, or 5th flight. lol
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Joke is on your kid for having such a disappointment of a father.
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Originally posted by soccerinnj View Post
The person is 100% correct though. Be proud of your kid and their accomplishments, but keep in mind the competition level. I've heard people talk about how amazing their kid/kid's teams are only to find out they are in the 3rd flight of EDP and have never played anyone higher. That's perfectly fine, but they are shocked when the team loses 10-0 to a team from the top flight. I think people get too invested in this stuff for their own good.
No one is talking about being shocked when they play a better team etc. this simply started with trying to argue about what content people post…
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You are just as jaded as the original post and trying to justify it with some sort of competition level explanation. The argument was that this guy was upset that people posted on social that their kid won a tournament but actually only won a flight…who cares. There is no need to censor people’s content in terms of youth soccer and play soccer police in terms of setting the facts straight. It’s a bit authoritarian.
No one is talking about being shocked when they play a better team etc. this simply started with trying to argue about what content people post…
That got you a little hurt. Was your kid on that team? This guy is right. Parents can be happy all they want. But they have no clue what when put up against higher level talent. Nothing wrong with that. But also nothing wrong with calling it out. Just like how parents of a u18 laughs at parents of u10 bragging about their soccer stars with no clue what really comes ahead. Do you tell those parents their kid is committing as a Middle schooler just to avoid hurting their feelings? rotfl
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You are just as jaded as the original post and trying to justify it with some sort of competition level explanation. The argument was that this guy was upset that people posted on social that their kid won a tournament but actually only won a flight…who cares. There is no need to censor people’s content in terms of youth soccer and play soccer police in terms of setting the facts straight. It’s a bit authoritarian.
No one is talking about being shocked when they play a better team etc. this simply started with trying to argue about what content people post…
this thought process keeps proving the "we are the champions" post correct - the poster doesn't seem upset, she is simply pointing out that people and clubs embellish the actual accomplishment on social media - it happens all the time - that is what social media is - people on this board and in youth soccer know what that people stretch the truth for their family and social media friends - no biggie
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That got you a little hurt. Was your kid on that team? This guy is right. Parents can be happy all they want. But they have no clue what when put up against higher level talent. Nothing wrong with that. But also nothing wrong with calling it out. Just like how parents of a u18 laughs at parents of u10 bragging about their soccer stars with no clue what really comes ahead. Do you tell those parents their kid is committing as a Middle schooler just to avoid hurting their feelings? rotfl
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Originally posted by soccerinnj View Post
Exactly. I'm not jaded; I'm being realistic where others may not be. Parents might not understand what is really going on if they have not had an older kid go through the youth soccer system already and/or if they didn't play at a high level. Again - this is completely understandable and I don't fault parents for bragging about their kids if they don't know better. I think it's better to educate other parents (in person if they ask, online I do it for free) rather than jump all over people for going all in on how amazing their kid is. Once people get the full picture they usually stop being facebook/instagram fools.
With your guidance they will stop posting such inane pictures and being such fools?
it sounds like you are just bitter their kids team didn’t win vs a group of teams with comparable talent. Now you just want to pee on someone else Cheerios.
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So in your terms you would rather censor people for posting about their child winning a couple of games vs letting the rest of the world judge if it is “legitimate” or not? So it is your job to “re-educate” people on the precise terminology to use in a post so grandma and grandpa know little Johnny only won a flight and is not as good as they are pretending to be.
With your guidance they will stop posting such inane pictures and being such fools?
it sounds like you are just bitter their kids team didn’t win vs a group of teams with comparable talent. Now you just want to pee on someone else Cheerios.
It doesn't matter where my kid plays for this conversation because I'm talking about perspective. If you must know, my oldest plays at the highest level in the state for their age and my youngest plays on a nice b team at very much not the highest level. There is nothing wrong with either scenario, but having those different experiences as well as seeing my oldest play at different levels over the years has given me perspective. My perspective is that you can say whatever you want to whomever you want, but that there is an ocean of difference in the quality of competition in tournament and league flights as well as other leagues. If you haven't had a kid playing at a high level then it's very easy to get caught up in the results of what reasonable people would term "lower level" competition. If you feel like that is me trying to pee in someone else's cheerios instead of sharing friendly advice/perspective, then you aren't understanding my point.
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Furthest from the truth. I don't care about what these people are posting or not posting. I actually find the entire thing funny when I see people posting stuff like winning the 10th flight at Jeff Cup or bragging to me in person about how awesome their kid's team is when they are playing EDP flight 3.
It doesn't matter where my kid plays for this conversation because I'm talking about perspective. If you must know, my oldest plays at the highest level in the state for their age and my youngest plays on a nice b team at very much not the highest level. There is nothing wrong with either scenario, but having those different experiences as well as seeing my oldest play at different levels over the years has given me perspective. My perspective is that you can say whatever you want to whomever you want, but that there is an ocean of difference in the quality of competition in tournament and league flights as well as other leagues. If you haven't had a kid playing at a high level then it's very easy to get caught up in the results of what reasonable people would term "lower level" competition. If you feel like that is me trying to pee in someone else's cheerios instead of sharing friendly advice/perspective, then you aren't understanding my point.
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After a huge weekend of tournaments we ae now ready to look at a mid-year snapshot. There have been many shifts for team both up and down. We believe that waiting until mid-year to publish this JFF (Just For Fun) rankings has given us a better feel for how teams are settling in after all the summer movement. What a season it has been! We have seen these boys make great strides!!
JFF Mid Year 2011 Boys Rankings:
1 CSA Bergen Pre Academy
2 The Football Academy Black
3 NY Red Bulls Pre Academy NY
4 PDA Puyol
5 NY Red Bulls Pre Academy North
6 Match Fit Academy Blue
7 SJEB Red
8 NY Red Bulls Academy South
9 Union Selecao
10 Liverpool Central
11 Bloomfield Barcelona
12 Cedar Stars Bergen Pre Academy II
13 STA MUSC Pre ECNL
14 Morris Elite Pre USL
15 PSA Princeton Elite
16 Match Fit Academy Black
17 Europa Lions FC
18 Ironbound Force
19 Real Jersey
20 Match Fit Montclair
21 AS Junior Elite
22 Valenica
23 TSF Academy Blue
24 Kearny Dynamo
25 Vistula Aces
26 Bridgewater Kassel Gray
27 Princeton FC Inter
28 Ocean Township Strikers Red
29 Summit Chelsea
30 FC Copa Millstone Black
31 Jackson Lions Red
32 Dutchmen FC Arsenal
33 PDA Guardiola
34 STA MUSC Pre ECRL
35 Toms River Beckenbauer
36 CSA Monmouth Green
37 Titanes Chicharitos
38 Hoboken City
39 CAPS Greater Flemington
40 Madison Dynamo
41 FC Berna Legacy
42 Berkeley United Wave
43 Elite Plainfield Strikers
44 STA MUSC Pre USYS
45 Pasco Atletico
46 PSA North Orange
47 Cohansey Chelsea
48 Westfield Boomers
49 Elizabeth YS Warriors
50 NJ Premier
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