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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    AS didn't beat PDA.
    my apologies. I thought they did.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The reality is AS exposes teams that rely on kicking and running. If a team needs an extra 10 yards to make sure they can blast the ball down field and pray a player can get through by athleticism and complains about the size of the field they need to find a new coach.

      I bet those teams complaining about the field length and width would do absolutely terrible in futsal lol
      They aren’t playing Futsal though... a lot of those very good Futsal teams don’t translate well to a full sided pitch where you actually need some other skills, like being able to run which is a huge part of the game. Athleticism. What is the point of having all those footskills if you actually can’t ever get to the ball in a real game. There is a reason for a minimum size of a field. Just follow the rules or forfeit if you can’t provide the correct environment for the kids to play correctly and safely.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        They aren’t playing Futsal though... a lot of those very good Futsal teams don’t translate well to a full sided pitch where you actually need some other skills, like being able to run which is a huge part of the game. Athleticism. What is the point of having all those footskills if you actually can’t ever get to the ball in a real game. There is a reason for a minimum size of a field. Just follow the rules or forfeit if you can’t provide the correct environment for the kids to play correctly and safely.
        Tell that to Spain when they dominated world soccer with possession. Athleticism is a part of the game to an extent. You need a floor, but technical skill and decision making is much more important for soccer. Perhaps, this is why so many teams don't actually play good soccer here in NJ youth development and why PDA doesn't really have representation of young players on the USWNT or the top 100 women's college players.

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          Let’s build a positive soccer community and give credit where it’s due

          So I will be the first parent on this thread to actually give a positive critique about an opposing team!!! I was very impressed with the style of play from ASJE. Their ball movement, ball distribution, passing and moving off the ball was very fun to watch. Although the field size is of question I won’t discredit the play of soccer. Going down 2-4 to ASJE we made the adjustments needed to tie the game ending 4-4. We took advantage of the short field and shot the ball right from kickoff toward the goal to get back in the game. Instead of complaining about the field size and make excuses I believe our coach tried to take advantage of the situation with our bigger stronger boys. Some of the kids on ASJE are 2012s with a bright future ahead of them. From their Center back having great field vision to the kid with the ponytail’s burst of speed to block shots I was impressed. But for whoever watched the game let’s be honest... their small goalie won the game for them! Put another goalie in his place and Liverpool would have won big time. He made outstanding saves... and again I believe we need more positive comments on this thread instead of bashing teams and kids. The more clubs we can have that’s competitive the better for NJYS instead of everyone running to CSA For just their name. I can’t wait to face ASJE on a regular size grass field next year.

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            Asje field

            I agree on all fronts, the field is small and suits asje’s game, but take nothing away from their solid soccer. Next year will change a lot for the 11s moving to a bigger field. The spread between the top teams and the next level will be big at first, those teams having experience on the bigger field. Speed will become a huge factor I think.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              So I will be the first parent on this thread to actually give a positive critique about an opposing team!!! I was very impressed with the style of play from ASJE. Their ball movement, ball distribution, passing and moving off the ball was very fun to watch. Although the field size is of question I won’t discredit the play of soccer. Going down 2-4 to ASJE we made the adjustments needed to tie the game ending 4-4. We took advantage of the short field and shot the ball right from kickoff toward the goal to get back in the game. Instead of complaining about the field size and make excuses I believe our coach tried to take advantage of the situation with our bigger stronger boys. Some of the kids on ASJE are 2012s with a bright future ahead of them. From their Center back having great field vision to the kid with the ponytail’s burst of speed to block shots I was impressed. But for whoever watched the game let’s be honest... their small goalie won the game for them! Put another goalie in his place and Liverpool would have won big time. He made outstanding saves... and again I believe we need more positive comments on this thread instead of bashing teams and kids. The more clubs we can have that’s competitive the better for NJYS instead of everyone running to CSA For just their name. I can’t wait to face ASJE on a regular size grass field next year.
              I agree with all of this.

              And not only is it true - it all needs to be said too.

              There are many times negative things need to be said but way too many people refuse to see positive things in other teams or clubs.

              Again, very well said.

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                Asje field

                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I agree on all fronts, the field is small and suits asje’s game, but take nothing away from their solid soccer. Next year will change a lot for the 11s moving to a bigger field. The spread between the top teams and the next level will be big at first, those teams having experience on the bigger field. Speed will become a huge factor I think.
                I couldn’t agree anymore either. After FA and Redbulls there is a HUGE separation from the next grouping in the top flights. PDA, Liverpool, ASJE, and STA are in another category. CSA B, and Morris Elite should probably and will end up in the 3rd flight for the fall season.

                That being said, I saw ASJE play on a big field and still possessed great ball movement. They just lack the natural big athletic type. But it’s obvious their training is making up for size.

                Let’s see what other players these teams recruit between now and August. Let’s keep the competition and positivity so Northern Nj can continue to be regarded as a Top soccer programs.

                Any good summer camps anyone recommends that’s non bias to just one club?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Let’s keep the competition and positivity so Northern Nj can continue to be regarded as a Top soccer programs.
                  I agree, however Liverpool Central & PDA Puyol are technically in Central Jersey. Valencia and Match Fit Howard will be back in the 2011s group next year and they are Central Jersey. Add CSA Monmouth and that is a very good top flight if EDP grouped teams in geography and league performance.

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                    CSA B to 3rd

                    Sorry no way csa b go to the 3rd bracket and not putting csa with FA/RB at the top is a miss.

                    I think with the bigger Programs there is a deeper bench which will further separate the top level teams

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I couldn’t agree anymore either. After FA and Redbulls there is a HUGE separation from the next grouping in the top flights. PDA, Liverpool, ASJE, and STA are in another category. CSA B, and Morris Elite should probably and will end up in the 3rd flight for the fall season.

                    That being said, I saw ASJE play on a big field and still possessed great ball movement. They just lack the natural big athletic type. But it’s obvious their training is making up for size.

                    Let’s see what other players these teams recruit between now and August. Let’s keep the competition and positivity so Northern Nj can continue to be regarded as a Top soccer programs.

                    Any good summer camps anyone recommends that’s non bias to just one club?

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                      Who’s in favor of keeping the name CSA off this thread moving forward??? LMAO

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Sorry no way csa b go to the 3rd bracket and not putting csa with FA/RB at the top is a miss.

                      I think with the bigger Programs there is a deeper bench which will further separate the top level teams
                      CSA Bergen B is already playing in two different flights. One of them being in the 3rd flight.
                      Right now there B team is compiled of a huge mix of different levels.

                      I agree that CSA A team will and should be in the top flight next season with the likes of clubs FA/Redbulls but what was mentioned in a prior post was comparing the current teams in the top flight. ( which CSA A team is not because they are playing 9v9 along with Union.
                      Let’s try not to talk about CSA anymore because they don’t need anymore attention. Let’s give credit to the PDAs, Liverpool’s, ASJE and STAs for producing some exiting games this season. With recognition and positive reinforcement let’s help these clubs build more competitive teams to take away from the over charged bigger name pay for play clubs.

                      And going back to another previous post I also agree it would be nice to group all the central top teams together and maybe EDP can create a playoff scenario so the top teams from each region could face each other. I understand this is “futures” but let’s get creative otherwise kids will start leaving for only MLSnext and ECNL teams.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So I will be the first parent on this thread to actually give a positive critique about an opposing team!!! I was very impressed with the style of play from ASJE. Their ball movement, ball distribution, passing and moving off the ball was very fun to watch. Although the field size is of question I won’t discredit the play of soccer. Going down 2-4 to ASJE we made the adjustments needed to tie the game ending 4-4. We took advantage of the short field and shot the ball right from kickoff toward the goal to get back in the game. Instead of complaining about the field size and make excuses I believe our coach tried to take advantage of the situation with our bigger stronger boys. Some of the kids on ASJE are 2012s with a bright future ahead of them. From their Center back having great field vision to the kid with the ponytail’s burst of speed to block shots I was impressed. But for whoever watched the game let’s be honest... their small goalie won the game for them! Put another goalie in his place and Liverpool would have won big time. He made outstanding saves... and again I believe we need more positive comments on this thread instead of bashing teams and kids. The more clubs we can have that’s competitive the better for NJYS instead of everyone running to CSA For just their name. I can’t wait to face ASJE on a regular size grass field next year.
                        Pretty sad to hear the Liverpool coach asked his players to shoot from the kick off instead of using ball movement and player overlaps to score and find a solution. You will never score from the kick off in a real game so the coach is looking to try to win any way possible instead of teaching his players how to win the right way.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          CSA Bergen B is already playing in two different flights. One of them being in the 3rd flight.
                          Right now there B team is compiled of a huge mix of different levels.

                          I agree that CSA A team will and should be in the top flight next season with the likes of clubs FA/Redbulls but what was mentioned in a prior post was comparing the current teams in the top flight. ( which CSA A team is not because they are playing 9v9 along with Union.
                          Let’s try not to talk about CSA anymore because they don’t need anymore attention. Let’s give credit to the PDAs, Liverpool’s, ASJE and STAs for producing some exiting games this season. With recognition and positive reinforcement let’s help these clubs build more competitive teams to take away from the over charged bigger name pay for play clubs.

                          And going back to another previous post I also agree it would be nice to group all the central top teams together and maybe EDP can create a playoff scenario so the top teams from each region could face each other. I understand this is “futures” but let’s get creative otherwise kids will start leaving for only MLSnext and ECNL teams.
                          The 2011 STA team doesn't produce exciting games they just kick and run so I lost you there. Their coaching consists of 3v3s for 1 hour and a scrimmage for the remaining 30 minutes of practice. Half the kids don't even have a clue where to stand or where to pass to. Not their fault though their coach is clueless. But again that's the style of play that STA teaches young players.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Pretty sad to hear the Liverpool coach asked his players to shoot from the kick off instead of using ball movement and player overlaps to score and find a solution. You will never score from the kick off in a real game so the coach is looking to try to win any way possible instead of teaching his players how to win the right way.
                            This person gets it

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                              [QUOTE=Unregistered;2995346]Pretty sad to hear the Liverpool coach asked his players to shoot from the kick off instead of using ball movement and player overlaps to score and find a solution. You will never score from the kick off in a real game so the coach is looking to try to win any way possible instead of teaching his players how to win the right way.[

                              The Juniors Elite field is small so any foul was pretty much a free kick... Liverpool does have a couple kids that shoot from far. It’s just another weapon added to their game. And maybe you didn’t get a chance to see it but they have scored from the kick off more than once in a real game. If the goalie is off his line then why not.

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                                Because shooting from kickoff is a cheap tactic that will probably never work next year 9v9 and will definitely not work 11v11. You're valuing winning over developing real skill. The coach is showing that he doesn't believe in the actual skills of his players. What happens when they are no longer the bigger and stronger kids?

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