2011 Boys

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Last 2 posts have great points.

i understand making the area bigger, but that doesn’t benefit me and my family. I know it is selfish, but I want to be playing the best of the best every week, and joining a pro branded platform, that’s the minimum we should expect. The best teams should be playing, end of story. There is some terrible clubs that I have had to watch and spend gas, hotels and mileage on my car in this supposedly elite platform. Why are these clubs still in 2 years later? We talk about facilities if you play in this region you know there is 3 or 4 clubs that have terrible facilities or fields. I know everyone wants their kids to be great, but I honestly see a sheer lack of want to compete in our culture. Things get hard parents go crazy, they up and leave a new elite platform pops up. When does mls or us soccer put a stop to this.

you make a great point on all the great teams in a small radius, why isn’t every team that is good enough in this area in a 2 flight promo rel situation where we push all these kids to play hard games week in and week out. Forget the badge, if you are good enough you compete. The league provides a neutral venue (like the other poster said) and they play! It’s so simple that we have cracked it in 5 mins on TS. But why, because the league has to spend and invest and that isn’t good for bottom line, the commissioner who’s kids play at dusc might have to earn a couple hundred thousand less by doing this.

I honestly don’t know if my kid is good enough and I don’t think our soccer system can push him to be good enough. I fall in line, follow what is meant to be the best route, but it just isn’t. ECNL says it’s the best for recruitment, mls next doesn’t get enough to pro why has us soccer not created clarity in this system. We have some great clubs, coaches facilities and spend the most yet we don’t have a single world class pro. I know I have said it a couple times, but I don’t think this hits home enough. Why are Denmark, Sweden, England able to produce world class players consistently despite being the size of some states in our country. Because when it comes to crunch time we just can’t compete, these countries are all about elite level completion for all players. It really is simple.

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Last 2 posts have great points.

Why are Denmark, Sweden, England able to produce world class players consistently despite being the size of some states in our country. Because when it comes to crunch time we just can’t compete, these countries are all about elite level completion for all players. It really is simple.

The countries you mention (and you don't even include France, Spain, Belgium, Portugal, etc) can create world-class players because they all have a longer culture of soccer where everybody plays soccer and not basketball and football and baseball even though I don't know why anybody likes baseball. Every single town has essentially a pro team nearby (look up all the tiers in the soccer pyramid in England!) and the costs of playing is subsidized by the team/government. In England, the TSF, PDA, and Cedar Stars of the world would actually be cost free and have real pro first teams (sorry, not counting USL 2 or whatever). Youth soccer isn't the money-making factory that it is in the US. Also, as you say, all of those countries are smaller so things like travel isn't as difficult. Lots of people have thought about how to get rid of the pay-to-play system but the infrastructure isn't there. Maybe your kid can get on an MLS club or get a scholarship for one of the teams. Our MLS academies are as good as those in Europe up to about U15 (even in U17 world cups we do ok), but in Europe those kids drop out of school and just play soccer (I know they do some academics, but basically they're pros with no futures if they don't make it). Our kids don't do that mostly (does Cavan Sullivan finish high school?). So the European (and South American) players are going to get better faster after U15.

There you go, all you gotta do is change the entire culture of the country quickly, solve the pay-to-play problem, shrink the USA, and convince all of our best teenagers to drop out of school and forget about college and maybe we'll get one world-class player.

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Unless your kid is on CSA Bergan, there's little to no chance you'll have to drive out to play DUSC or Long Island by this age group. Maybe in a non-MLS next league.

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The countries you mention (and you don't even include France, Spain, Belgium, Portugal, etc) can create world-class players because they all have a longer culture of soccer where everybody plays soccer and not basketball and football and baseball even though I don't know why anybody likes baseball. Every single town has essentially a pro team nearby (look up all the tiers in the soccer pyramid in England!) and the costs of playing is subsidized by the team/government. In England, the TSF, PDA, and Cedar Stars of the world would actually be cost free and have real pro first teams (sorry, not counting USL 2 or whatever). Youth soccer isn't the money-making factory that it is in the US. Also, as you say, all of those countries are smaller so things like travel isn't as difficult. Lots of people have thought about how to get rid of the pay-to-play system but the infrastructure isn't there. Maybe your kid can get on an MLS club or get a scholarship for one of the teams. Our MLS academies are as good as those in Europe up to about U15 (even in U17 world cups we do ok), but in Europe those kids drop out of school and just play soccer (I know they do some academics, but basically they're pros with no futures if they don't make it). Our kids don't do that mostly (does Cavan Sullivan finish high school?). So the European (and South American) players are going to get better faster after U15.

There you go, all you gotta do is change the entire culture of the country quickly, solve the pay-to-play problem, shrink the USA, and convince all of our best teenagers to drop out of school and forget about college and maybe we'll get one world-class player.

LOL nc rlly said Cavan Sullivan. i played against dat nc before n blud looked like an average player on ma team. n we won the kid’s team twice.

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LOL nc rlly said Cavan Sullivan. i played against dat nc before n blud looked like an average player on ma team. n we won the kid’s team twice.

Who wrote this…..English please.

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The countries you mention (and you don't even include France, Spain, Belgium, Portugal, etc) can create world-class players because they all have a longer culture of soccer where everybody plays soccer and not basketball and football and baseball even though I don't know why anybody likes baseball. Every single town has essentially a pro team nearby (look up all the tiers in the soccer pyramid in England!) and the costs of playing is subsidized by the team/government. In England, the TSF, PDA, and Cedar Stars of the world would actually be cost free and have real pro first teams (sorry, not counting USL 2 or whatever). Youth soccer isn't the money-making factory that it is in the US. Also, as you say, all of those countries are smaller so things like travel isn't as difficult. Lots of people have thought about how to get rid of the pay-to-play system but the infrastructure isn't there. Maybe your kid can get on an MLS club or get a scholarship for one of the teams. Our MLS academies are as good as those in Europe up to about U15 (even in U17 world cups we do ok), but in Europe those kids drop out of school and just play soccer (I know they do some academics, but basically they're pros with no futures if they don't make it). Our kids don't do that mostly (does Cavan Sullivan finish high school?). So the European (and South American) players are going to get better faster after U15.

There you go, all you gotta do is change the entire culture of the country quickly, solve the pay-to-play problem, shrink the USA, and convince all of our best teenagers to drop out of school and forget about college and maybe we'll get one world-class player.

I am sorry but we could EASILY follow the European model in this country. We are so hard headed and think America is always better, we do it in everything not just soccer. We crown sports world champions and only play in our own country. NJ has a larger population than half these counties you mentioned so combine, NY and PA and maybe MA. You have the same coverage as these larger European countries, same travel and a larger population to choose from, so where is the excuse. We probably have more home schooled kids, so that is also an option, we have all the same resources. We have the fields, the clubs, the want, we lack guidance and structure from us soccer because they think American parents are dumb and well, we prove them correct every year.
the issue is the money and capitalist nature at the top. We don’t want to kick back to youth clubs, there is no reward for producing players, Red Bulls have 4 teams per age group in their RDS ages destroying the youth landscape at the first chance they get. Red Bulls do nothing to support youth clubs, MLS do nothing, NJ youth soccer do nothing and the US government do nothing. They put on fake small give backs to look good on social media, but they are not investing in the sport, so for that point you are correct.
however, we have proven as parents we are willing to pay, so we don’t really need the investment from these people above, we put in probably the same monetary investment England gives, it is already generated here by us, the parents.

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Who wrote this…..English please.

this same auh nc again.

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What’s going on with Real MLS 2011. Heard some boys are leaving and/or got cut?

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What’s going on with Real MLS 2011. Heard some boys are leaving and/or got cut?

Yup heard the same, they actually had a good team. Not sure what happened.

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How’s the experience been for the NJ MLS teams? PDA, TSF, Real, CSA Monmouth and Bergen, IB has it been worth it? With the travel, expenses, not so sure if you are getting quality coaching at CSA and pda from parents on the team. IB was the most recent club to join mls and they had the best record out of all the NJ teams. Everyone else was only able to beat the bottom 3-4 teams only. Is your kid getting any development? Are they better now vs. when they 1st came
to the club? Are the clubs really developing or just chasing the mls record? Like most coaches and clubs do and still sit on the bottom.

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How’s the experience been for the NJ MLS teams? PDA, TSF, Real, CSA Monmouth and Bergen, IB has it been worth it? With the travel, expenses, not so sure if you are getting quality coaching at CSA and pda from parents on the team. IB was the most recent club to join mls and they had the best record out of all the NJ teams. Everyone else was only able to beat the bottom 3-4 teams only. Is your kid getting any development? Are they better now vs. when they 1st came
to the club? Are the clubs really developing or just chasing the mls record? Like most coaches and clubs do and still sit on the bottom.

our experience was MLS was not worth it at U13. Lots of travel and 1/3 of the teams stink. It would be better if the teams still went to tournaments. Also the no re-entry per half rule is dumb for a development standpoint at u13/u14. It would be great if they went to 1-2 more tournaments, changed the substitution rule and stopped expanding and cut the bottom third out.

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Not worth all the intentional Stress & pressure coaches place on the young ones. I heard csa and pda are a mess this year. Won’t be going back, will look for high level local teams that are invested with their players.

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Not worth all the intentional Stress & pressure coaches place on the young ones. I heard csa and pda are a mess this year. Won’t be going back, will look for high level local teams that are invested with their players.

Not a chance......exit MLS to play high level local teams? What is this person talking about?!?

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Not a chance......exit MLS to play high level local teams? What is this person talking about?!?

Here is another parent fascinated with American soccer and chasing the mls badge. It’s good enough bud.

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Here is another parent fascinated with American soccer and chasing the mls badge. It’s good enough bud.

Here we are again, making no sense whatsoever. I'm not chasing any badge, and even if I was it would have zero to do with PDA / CSA moving out of MLS.

This statement lacks any logic and is intended to instigate.