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    #76
    Originally posted by Guest View Post
    I have a daughter with an October birthday. She is one of three in the lower "grade" group of her team and I believe the youngest of the bunch. So if this goes through, she'll drop down an age group correct? And would play more often with the kids in her grade?
    yes. I have a November daughter who is the youngest on her team. If this goes through it would make me very happy.

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      #77
      I have a September 2011 son. He's in 8th grade. He'll miss the new 8/1 cut off now, even though he made the GY cutoff for NJ schools. Will he have to go down and be one of the older kids on the GY younger team? That would stink! I'm sure he'd rather play with his grade year.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Guest View Post
        I have a September 2011 son. He's in 8th grade. He'll miss the new 8/1 cut off now, even though he made the GY cutoff for NJ schools. Will he have to go down and be one of the older kids on the GY younger team? That would stink! I'm sure he'd rather play with his grade year.
        I think for those kids, they should be able to play with their grade. Just my opinion. I don’t even know if this is happening.

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          #79
          None of this is Happening

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            #80
            Originally posted by Guest View Post
            None of this is Happening
            Why don’t you think so

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              #81
              PSA said they are getting ready for this change. So it has to be in the talks for them to say that.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                Why don’t you think so
                MLS and their academies and leagues are not changing. So, are they going to have two age cutoff systems?

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  MLS and their academies and leagues are not changing. So, are they going to have two age cutoff systems?
                  Sure, why not. Different leagues serve players with different goals. In inter-league tournaments, teams play up and down age groups all the time already.

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                    #84
                    Anyone who has been around long enough to remember the last change can tell you that absolutely no one is prepared for the consequences that come with any change. The last one destroyed an entire age group as 08s tend to have a wide gap in skill levels depending on if they were born before or after the old 8/1 cut off. On top of that, many teams and clubs were torn apart as players moved to their new classification as some had spots available and others were moved down to B teams. It wasn't pretty. Changing back serves 0 purpose, even moving to school year wouldn't work as different schools in different states have different cut offs.

                    As for different leagues having different cut offs, you must be dumb. The point of doing anything is to streamline and make better. NONE of the leagues would want different age cutoffs between them. ECNL, MLS, and GA clubs all have 2nd/3rd teams that play in different leagues and having different cut offs would cause nightmares for them, the parents, coaches, and players not to mention those inter-league tournaments and showcases would have fewer teams as coaches wouldn't want to have to play up a year and colleges don't want to have to guess which players they can talk to or recruit.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post
                      Anyone who has been around long enough to remember the last change can tell you that absolutely no one is prepared for the consequences that come with any change. The last one destroyed an entire age group as 08s tend to have a wide gap in skill levels depending on if they were born before or after the old 8/1 cut off. On top of that, many teams and clubs were torn apart as players moved to their new classification as some had spots available and others were moved down to B teams. It wasn't pretty. Changing back serves 0 purpose, even moving to school year wouldn't work as different schools in different states have different cut offs.

                      As for different leagues having different cut offs, you must be dumb. The point of doing anything is to streamline and make better. NONE of the leagues would want different age cutoffs between them. ECNL, MLS, and GA clubs all have 2nd/3rd teams that play in different leagues and having different cut offs would cause nightmares for them, the parents, coaches, and players not to mention those inter-league tournaments and showcases would have fewer teams as coaches wouldn't want to have to play up a year and colleges don't want to have to guess which players they can talk to or recruit.
                      Why do the pro-BY people on all these threads need to constantly call everyone dumb? If you have a good argument, let it speak for itself. There's a reason why "attacking the person" is usually considered a tactic for someone who is losing a debate on substance.

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                        #86
                        How about schools change the cutoff to Dec 31 and the problem is gone

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          yes. I have a November daughter who is the youngest on her team. If this goes through it would make me very happy.
                          Won't some child always be the youngest on their team?

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post
                            Anyone who has been around long enough to remember the last change can tell you that absolutely no one is prepared for the consequences that come with any change. The last one destroyed an entire age group as 08s tend to have a wide gap in skill levels depending on if they were born before or after the old 8/1 cut off. On top of that, many teams and clubs were torn apart as players moved to their new classification as some had spots available and others were moved down to B teams. It wasn't pretty. Changing back serves 0 purpose, even moving to school year wouldn't work as different schools in different states have different cut offs.

                            As for different leagues having different cut offs, you must be dumb. The point of doing anything is to streamline and make better. NONE of the leagues would want different age cutoffs between them. ECNL, MLS, and GA clubs all have 2nd/3rd teams that play in different leagues and having different cut offs would cause nightmares for them, the parents, coaches, and players not to mention those inter-league tournaments and showcases would have fewer teams as coaches wouldn't want to have to play up a year and colleges don't want to have to guess which players they can talk to or recruit.
                            “The point of doing anything is to streamline and make better”. Wouldn’t going to SY streamline with college recruiting and make that better? Or streamline with kids playing with kids their same grade or from their class? Wouldn’t that be better.
                            wouldn’t getting rid of trapped players who have to sit out for months why some of their teammates play high school be better?

                            If your argument is this will really be disruptive I will agree with that but nothing about BY streamlines anything for the majority of youth soccer. Isn’t a short term disruption worth getting back to something that is better for the majority?

                            Let’s assume my kid does suck at soccer and doesn’t like to work hard so no need to bring that up. Stick to the facts. Outside of national team play how does BY help streamline anything.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              “The point of doing anything is to streamline and make better”. Wouldn’t going to SY streamline with college recruiting and make that better? Or streamline with kids playing with kids their same grade or from their class? Wouldn’t that be better.
                              wouldn’t getting rid of trapped players who have to sit out for months why some of their teammates play high school be better?

                              If your argument is this will really be disruptive I will agree with that but nothing about BY streamlines anything for the majority of youth soccer. Isn’t a short term disruption worth getting back to something that is better for the majority?

                              Let’s assume my kid does suck at soccer and doesn’t like to work hard so no need to bring that up. Stick to the facts. Outside of national team play how does BY help streamline anything.
                              Boom! Roasted!

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Guest View Post
                                None of this is Happening
                                this is what denial looks like

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