US soccer age change

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Umm…. That’s the whole point

Right, so why would MLS Next be less affected by the change? All biobands are not trapped and all trapped kids aren’t eligible to bioband.

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Right, so why would MLS Next be less affected by the change? All biobands are not trapped and all trapped kids aren’t eligible to bioband.

Trapped players don’t exist in MLS Next. HS is the thing that causes trapped players. The league plays a full year schedule. So if there are a few current 2010 players that are still in 8th grade instead of being a freshman they still have their MLS Next season all fall. They don’t play HS. In 4 years when most of the 2010s graduate HS, the ones that are still in 8th grade continue to play on the U19 team for a 2nd year with the current 2011s.

normal 2010s:
frosh - u15
soph - u16
jnr - u17
sr - u19

young 2010s:
8th - u15
9th - u16
10th - u17
11th - u19
12th - u19

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Nov 22 is the big vote. I hope they change it away from birth year. It will be much better for the younger kids in the roster to play with their grade. Hey if they are good enough to continue playing up then they can do it. But none have the option to play down. So this will help many kids with late birthdays.

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assume they meant because MLSN already does bio-banding

They can’t play in HS, so at least that part does not affect them.

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Nov 22 is the big vote. I hope they change it away from birth year. It will be much better for the younger kids in the roster to play with their grade. Hey if they are good enough to continue playing up then they can do it. But none have the option to play down. So this will help many kids with late birthdays.

Currently October, November and December birth months kids dont play with their grade. The change to Aug 1st - July 31st will make it so August and September birth month kids dont play with their grade. Not much of a net change. 3 months of kids "trapped" before. Now 2 months of kids get screwed.

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MLSn programs WILL be affected. Some have massive player pools with lots of kids rostered with both MLSn plus USYS leagues. Kids are rostered week to week - if a kid doesn't make the MLSn roster on a given week then they play in an NAL match or a USYS match in for example an E64 league. Multiple leagues with different cutoff dates will create chaos.

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MLS and their academies and leagues are not changing. So, are they going to have two age cutoff systems?

Why would MLS not change if the rest of the country is?

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Not saying you are wrong, but how do you know this? Why wouldn't MLS and nam go along to keep everything uniform?

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Whatever happens expect a cluster **** to happen...Just like last time...You've been warned by those of us that lived thru it the first time.

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Whatever happens expect a cluster **** to happen...Just like last time...You've been warned by those of us that lived thru it the first time.

No doubt it will be crazy. But this time around there should be some advantages in the nature of the move. In more cases this time friends will be united rather than just split up. In more cases this time an underrepresented group is moving down ~3 months rather than an overrepresented group moving up ~9 months. The people who will go the craziest are the ones who move down from an A team to B team. It will be hard to feel too badly for them given that means their spot on A team was dependent on the luck of having an older birthday and they didn't do more to capitalize on that advantage during the time they had it.

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No doubt it will be crazy. But this time around there should be some advantages in the nature of the move. In more cases this time friends will be united rather than just split up. In more cases this time an underrepresented group is moving down ~3 months rather than an overrepresented group moving up ~9 months. The people who will go the craziest are the ones who move down from an A team to B team. It will be hard to feel too badly for them given that means their spot on A team was dependent on the luck of having an older birthday and they didn't do more to capitalize on that advantage during the time they had it.

if this actually happens, Im really interested in what it does to some of the over-achieving teams at clubs, especially when a town team, a whole team was lifted from a different club, or just an outlier at a club. 2009 MF, 2010 PSA, 2011 Marlton, 2012 FA, 2013 CSA and Deptford, 2014 CJFA/MFS

For example, if there is a trapped 09 at MF, they have to either go practice in Denville or drop down to MFS RL team?

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if this actually happens, Im really interested in what it does to some of the over-achieving teams at clubs, especially when a town team, a whole team was lifted from a different club, or just an outlier at a club. 2009 MF, 2010 PSA, 2011 Marlton, 2012 FA, 2013 CSA and Deptford, 2014 CJFA/MFS

For example, if there is a trapped 09 at MF, they have to either go practice in Denville or drop down to MFS RL team?

My guess is those really good teams will keep their rosters the same and maybe add young players from the age above to help their team

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None of this matter for older ages. Once they stop growing they can either ball or they can’t. This will impact u littles when growth is a major factor, other than that teams will likely remain at a similar level assuming decent depth in the programs.

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School year being phased in. Year 1 Only 8u to 14u impacted initially. 15u and above will remain the same with a transition over 3-5 year period. Year 2 it’s 8u to 15u. 16-19 not impacted.

So basically the young ones will have initial changes but the older groups will remain the same until they age out. It’s a recipe for disaster if you start moving older age groups around. Those teams are set and it will cause players to quit the game. HS aren’t switching teams.

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School year being phased in. Year 1 Only 8u to 14u impacted initially. 15u and above will remain the same with a transition over 3-5 year period. Year 2 it’s 8u to 15u. 16-19 not impacted.

So basically the young ones will have initial changes but the older groups will remain the same until they age out. It’s a recipe for disaster if you start moving older age groups around. Those teams are set and it will cause players to quit the game. HS aren’t switching teams.

How would that work? in 2025-26 u15 age group would be jan 1 2011 - july 31 2011? Aug 1 2011 - Dec 31 2011 stay down with U14? U15 age group would stink and many teams would fall apart. Am I missing something?