USWNT Disgrace

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I guess I don't understand how that would change anything. The ecnl is full of A licensed coaches yet the majority of the play is unwatchable.

EXACTLY. people think licensing = better coaching. BS. Most people here are just redesigning the ECNL slightly. Very few of these changes will lead to a better environment for elite prospects.

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I guess I don't understand how that would change anything. The ecnl is full of A licensed coaches yet the majority of the play is unwatchable.

No it's not, very few coaches are A licenced, some are B but most are C. A licensed coaches end up coaching college. Usually only the DOC in a club is A licenced. We need more coaching education. The problem starts at the top and US soccer can't pick a good coach for the men or women.

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I guess I don't understand how that would change anything. The ecnl is full of A licensed coaches yet the majority of the play is unwatchable.

“A” licensed coaching can’t miraculously take an average player, which most players are in the ECNL, and make them into a great player. And you need all very good players on a team for the game to look nice. If you have 3-4 great players and 6 average players the game will most definitely look mostly bad. This is exactly why if the USWNT wants to improve they need to be better at identifying girls that can actually play the game at a very high level, and there are definitely 30 in this country, and train them regularly with great coaches. The rest of the world is using their men’s professional clubs to gather talented girls and train them properly. It’s really not a surprise that a properly trained girls team can play with the USWNT. In this country we simply don’t have the mens professional teams to lean on. So USSF must figure out how to get these very specific girls trained at a young age. I am saying very specific bc contrary to what many people believe all these girls need to be extremely athletic, have a very high soccer IQ, as well as highly technical with the ball. Not easy to find but definitely out there.

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ECNL is the problem. Closed off to good teams and players that maybe can’t afford the 4k a year to train twice a week with 2 clubs who own the east coast market, so you need to pay more to get better. Then the 10-15k on travel each year. They don’t do anything for the greater good of soccer in this country, they simply line their pockets! They make a lot of money doing so and in turn send our soccer system years back.
this is our first ECNL dominant national team over a usys one. Work out what the difference was in the two systems and tell me ECNL isn’t creating the issue.
Long ball, my athlete is bigger and faster than yours and very little skill, that’s what you get most weeks in the ECNL set up. I stupidly kept my kid in the system paying the absurd fees for a long time, the skill level is poor compared to the rest of the world. We would do tours, this was years ago and you could already see these Spanish and English kids were superior to the game.
Open up the floor to all teams and kids and watch our game grow, but the big clubs and leagues don’t want to lose money by having equal competition.

[Guest]

Easy plan to fix this....

1. A single National League with tiers and consistent promotion/relegation based around regional leagues and showcases
2. A single licensing structure and require actual teaching and training as well as national standards in training such as minimum amount of practice times per level like 1x wk for rec, 2x wk for local travel, 3x wk for regional/national level clubs
3. Complete removal of clubs, coaches, DoCs, owners...etc for not following national standards
4. Conference and Regional ID centers for YNT held several times a year as well as a walk-in sign up ID camp just so players outside the politics can at least be seen
5. YNT training of multiple teams based on regions
6. Fee structure for players that make pro and NTs more like FIFA to reward clubs that train better
7. Remove any type of standings for any age group lower than 11v11
8. Remove the 24-30 max roster sizes and move them to 16-18 to get more kids on the field instead of sitting on the bench or sideline not dressing

Sounds like the rest of the world…I wonder how their players get so good. America…let’s just make money! This country is now so far behind other counties in the girls game it is disappointing.

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Well it’s not just the USA people are catching up to. All previously dominant soccer countries are getting caught.

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Just dump all of them. They are a disgrace. This team will not win anything. If they are so against the USA then why represent your country. They can’t lose soon enough and they will.

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As long as leagues rank and peer group teams nothing will change. The quest to win has polluted the entire system.

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Well it’s not just the USA people are catching up to. All previously dominant soccer countries are getting caught.

Canada has struggled as well. Several of their players play or played here on our college teams.

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is this for Girls? If so

1. Dont like pro/ rel if the goal is development. what is to stop players on teams that get relegated just jumping ship or quitting?
2. Already exists no? The issue is access and cost. I think the USA charges the most of any country for licensing.
4. Who is selecting the attendees?
6. Like it
7. Like it
8. If we are talking elite player development, then more is not the issue. I prefer less to more.

1. You will always need a carrot in a capitalistic society. Nothing stops people from leaving when a club is relegated or promoted or at all. What would stop people would be things like training. If the club was relegated then it most likely was due to it not keeping up with training or not having the players who can play at that level. At that point better players would leave. On the other foot with a promotion you may have players who aren't capable of the next level and they also may leave.
2. No - You have several licensing structures both US Soccer and US Club have their letter licenses as well as different licenses for indoor and futsal
4. For the nominated IDs it should be a combination of club coaches, conference scouts, players (yes, players should be able to say this player on our team is under rated and should be invited as well as that player on that team we played was really good), regional and national scouts. Anyone not selected should be eligible for a walk-in ID camp so they can be evaluated outside normal tracks so players aren't missed.
8. Currently maximum roster sizes are ECNL - 24, GA - 30, USYS - 30 while play day rosters are set at 18 for all leagues. A lot of clubs like to push the boundaries of rosters and hoard players until they hit anywhere between 20-28 players which hurts development of the entire team. Rosters should be made to force clubs to pull up from the next level team if/when the need arises instead of having these players rot on the bench. In the beginning you would have a lot of movement between clubs as players move from being sent down to the B team and them moving to another clubs A team. This would eventually balance out the skill levels as the A players would eventually find homes at clubs they would be on the A team and B team and lower players would follow suit.



Simple read from 2021 about the differences between European and US youth soccer

https://girlssoccernetwork.com/youth...the-us-europe/

US soccer would never be like this aka subsidized because of 2 key factors. The first being the sports popularity, it isn't anywhere near what it is in Europe and it isn't prestigious enough for families to justify having kids attend while pro-leagues pay poorly. The second would be straight money, MLS and NWSL don't have the money and don't want to spend it if they did to create such academies (not all MLS academies are free).

The NWSL needs to grow, it should be at least 24 teams not 12. Just around here their should be a team in New England area like Boston and another in Philly and Baltimore. Texas alone should have 3 teams not 1 as should Las Vegas, Miami, San Francisco, Atlanta, and Colorado ie every major market that has multiple ECNL/GA clubs. You can't grow a sport if people can't travel to the games or have a team to cheer for. Currently the NWSL is only in 6 of the top 15 markets for soccer in the US. https://www.giltedgesoccer.com/top-s...ts-in-america/

Figuring an average of $15k per kid and 40 kids per class starting in 6th grade to 12th ie 280 kids, it should cost between $5-$8m per year for an NWSL team to have an actual European style academy. While a total free system may not be feasible between club fees turned into academy tuition and spread over 10 months instead of the usual 3-6 they could easily bring in 20-30% of the total cost. Plus, by making these academies 501c3 non-profits, any money the pro club spends toward it could lower their over all taxes making it better spent money on potential future players instead of direct payments to the government. You have players on the pro teams that need jobs during the off-season that are looking to become coaches and trainers as well as access to pro coaches and trainers to either do the job, mentor, or teach. Couple all this with a FIFA style transfer fees and these schools could eventual fund themselves.

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Well it’s not just the USA people are catching up to. All previously dominant soccer countries are getting caught.

Out = Canada #7, China #14, Brazil #8, South Korea #17 as well as last WC teams like Argentina #28, Italy #16, New Zealand #26, and Portugal #21

In = Nigeria #40, Jamaica #43, South Africa #54, and Columbia #25

Interesting fact though is that a good number of these players on these new "in" teams are born in the US and played in the youth system as well as in US college.

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ECNL is the problem. Closed off to good teams and players that maybe can’t afford the 4k a year to train twice a week with 2 clubs who own the east coast market, so you need to pay more to get better. Then the 10-15k on travel each year. They don’t do anything for the greater good of soccer in this country, they simply line their pockets! They make a lot of money doing so and in turn send our soccer system years back.
this is our first ECNL dominant national team over a usys one. Work out what the difference was in the two systems and tell me ECNL isn’t creating the issue.
Long ball, my athlete is bigger and faster than yours and very little skill, that’s what you get most weeks in the ECNL set up. I stupidly kept my kid in the system paying the absurd fees for a long time, the skill level is poor compared to the rest of the world. We would do tours, this was years ago and you could already see these Spanish and English kids were superior to the game.
Open up the floor to all teams and kids and watch our game grow, but the big clubs and leagues don’t want to lose money by having equal competition.

Why don't you donate a few hundred million and provide free training to a bunch of kids, or is someone else supposed to do that? We live in a country in which "lower income" people can spend $100 a week on cigarettes, blow $10 a week on lottery tickets, have smart phones, buy computers and flat screens, spend $5 a day for a cup for coffee at Starbucks, and eat out constantly, but they supposedly can't afford travel soccer. Give me a break.

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Hopefully the team loses. They are a disgrace.

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[QUOTE=Guest;n4522426]As long as leagues rank and peer group teams nothing will change. The quest to win has polluted the entire system. [/QUOTa

As a European with kids playing here, I was amazed at how much parents only care about winning even at 8, 9, 10 years old. My children are not big (yet!) but always overlooked for the big fast player that can barrel through and take a big kick. Coaches agree but have to be pragmatic because if their team loses the parents take their children to other teams and at young ages it works to have more athletic kids to win games. The American soccer mentality to measure success by winning and views their 12 year old's team like they are a professional team is problematic to the development of the players. Haaland's growth came at 16, he is an extremely technical player because he could not rely on his size as a young player. Typical European youth teams do not care about winning before maybe age 15.