Good article

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The GA and most other leagues have rules against poaching from teams IN THE LEAGUE ONLY. GA or USYS want to bring in an NPL, ECNL or ECNL-RL player no problem. If an ECNL or ECRL want to bring in from outside ECNL or RL no problem. The issue is ECNL, RL, NPL won't let you play for a 2nd team which when you have rosters bloated to 22 ie not dressing 4+ players then how are they supposed to get field time to get better?

And yes, I've seen ECNL coaches kick players for playing with outside clubs on their own time and dime. Unless you are part of the "inner-circle" of parents or top 2-5 players their is absolutely no loyalty to the player.

If you're trying to have your kid play on another team for more pt, then they're on the wrong team. Past U13 playing regularly on two teams is a recipe for overuse and exhaustion. Find good coaching where your kid will play a ton. Don't get wrapped up in the league and labels- but too many do.

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If you're trying to have your kid play on another team for more pt, then they're on the wrong team. Past U13 playing regularly on two teams is a recipe for overuse and exhaustion. Find good coaching where your kid will play a ton. Don't get wrapped up in the league and labels- but too many do.

So, you are saying, by your expert opinion, that players should not want to be on a top level team as a player that may only dress half the time and get 50% playing time when they do? The worst teams in ECNL play less than 25 games on average including showcases and less than 30 in GA. That isn't much unless you are playing 75% plus in every game. There are players that aren't the best player but would certain be on a lower team but what comes with that lower team? Would I, as a player, rather be on a mid to top level ECNL or GA team playing in half the games at about 50% playing time to get seen by more coaches while also playing more on a lower level to get better or would I rather play 75% plus on a lower level USYS team and hope to be seen by a choice school because they don't usually attend events that this team attends? People in the states worry about overuse and exhaustion because they don't understand when to take a break or rest. You don't see serious players or even every day players oversees quitting at the rate US kids do, getting injured as often as US kids do or burning out as much as US kids do. Now why do you think that is? The only way you are on the wrong team for playing time is if you rarely dress and when you do you get 15-20 minutes a game.

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ECNL players are allowed to play with their club's ECRL team, so the end-of-the-bench ECNL players do have the ability to get more playing time.

Allowed and do are 2 different things not to mention a lot of the RL games are scheduled the same days as the ECNL ones so it isn't extra playing time it is one or the other.

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Allowed and do are 2 different things not to mention a lot of the RL games are scheduled the same days as the ECNL ones so it isn't extra playing time it is one or the other.

On D’s ECRL team, we regularly see ECNL players playing with opposing ECRL teams, so it definitely happens. And yes, games are the same day as ECNL games…the idea is that the player would play the majority of the ECRL game instead of sitting on the bench at the ECNL game.

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That’s what you got from his comments. The guy is a coach of a successful program in the Midwest and he is calling it like he sees it. You must be one of the car bumper, sweatshirt and winter coat with the club logo on parent. Someone above already set you straight on the facts regarding GA and ECNL playoffs that are held on different dates and the opportunity given to NJ for an event of that magnitude. Have no doubt you didn’t pay attention or post regarding GA playoff results and comp but was all over threads about ECNL teams.

Just be happy where your kid is at and enjoy telling people how “we” played last weekend when “you” in fact didn’t do anything except pick up the tuition bill and provide transportation.

What was written that you replied to that was wrong? 4 out of the 7 days each league held their playoffs there was overlap with each other. It's not on GA to plan their schedule according to ENCL or vice versa but doesn't mean it makes sense for more than half of each leagues playoffs to have overlapping dates. I don't know if it was on here but there was a discussion of how there was a mass exodus of scouts after the second day of the GA playoffs. When you factor in the weather issues that week, most weren't on site more than a day or day and a half tops.

What does GA do developmentally different from ECNL? I know nothing of Nationals other than it seems like they always field strong teams. Have no idea if their coaches all follow a model or its just like most other clubs and Nationals are just better at doing what they do than other clubs, like PDA around here. Is he honeslty saying that all their players were brought up through their system each step of the way and they don't bring in kids at tryouts or talent id's who are better than kids on their current roster? If he is then while I don't know anything about Nationals, but as someone else said he's just jealous because his league isn't considered the "top league". They don't do anything different than ECNL teams, EDP teams. They're just better at how they do it than most other GA teams.

I think the GA has almost 100 clubs in their directory. If you look at ECNL/ECRL directory, they have 140-200 clubs. Neither league can mandate and monitor 240-300+ clubs on how to run their trainings to better develop kids. 240-300 individually run clubs who all think they have the best way of developing and training. 240-300 sets of egos who all know better than everyone else. Every ECNL or GA club recruits. Every ECNL or GA club will find a place for a player who's better that kids they currently have on their rosters. None of them only develop their players from a young age and will turn away better players in the older age groups.

Guess the irony is lost on Robertson when one patch criticizes another patch for advertising their patch.

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What was written that you replied to that was wrong? 4 out of the 7 days each league held their playoffs there was overlap with each other. It's not on GA to plan their schedule according to ENCL or vice versa but doesn't mean it makes sense for more than half of each leagues playoffs to have overlapping dates. I don't know if it was on here but there was a discussion of how there was a mass exodus of scouts after the second day of the GA playoffs. When you factor in the weather issues that week, most weren't on site more than a day or day and a half tops.

What does GA do developmentally different from ECNL? I know nothing of Nationals other than it seems like they always field strong teams. Have no idea if their coaches all follow a model or its just like most other clubs and Nationals are just better at doing what they do than other clubs, like PDA around here. Is he honeslty saying that all their players were brought up through their system each step of the way and they don't bring in kids at tryouts or talent id's who are better than kids on their current roster? If he is then while I don't know anything about Nationals, but as someone else said he's just jealous because his league isn't considered the "top league". They don't do anything different than ECNL teams, EDP teams. They're just better at how they do it than most other GA teams.

I think the GA has almost 100 clubs in their directory. If you look at ECNL/ECRL directory, they have 140-200 clubs. Neither league can mandate and monitor 240-300+ clubs on how to run their trainings to better develop kids. 240-300 individually run clubs who all think they have the best way of developing and training. 240-300 sets of egos who all know better than everyone else. Every ECNL or GA club recruits. Every ECNL or GA club will find a place for a player who's better that kids they currently have on their rosters. None of them only develop their players from a young age and will turn away better players in the older age groups.

Guess the irony is lost on Robertson when one patch criticizes another patch for advertising their patch.

I think your comments are fair and don’t believe one platform does something exceedingly better than the other. I read it as some clubs pontificating on one platform over another and the cult following involved as an observation. Agree that all clubs recruit and parents are implicit in this dynamic. Coaching and environment help determine which is the best fit for your kid.

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What was written that you replied to that was wrong? 4 out of the 7 days each league held their playoffs there was overlap with each other. It's not on GA to plan their schedule according to ENCL or vice versa but doesn't mean it makes sense for more than half of each leagues playoffs to have overlapping dates. I don't know if it was on here but there was a discussion of how there was a mass exodus of scouts after the second day of the GA playoffs. When you factor in the weather issues that week, most weren't on site more than a day or day and a half tops.

What does GA do developmentally different from ECNL? I know nothing of Nationals other than it seems like they always field strong teams. Have no idea if their coaches all follow a model or its just like most other clubs and Nationals are just better at doing what they do than other clubs, like PDA around here. Is he honeslty saying that all their players were brought up through their system each step of the way and they don't bring in kids at tryouts or talent id's who are better than kids on their current roster? If he is then while I don't know anything about Nationals, but as someone else said he's just jealous because his league isn't considered the "top league". They don't do anything different than ECNL teams, EDP teams. They're just better at how they do it than most other GA teams.

I think the GA has almost 100 clubs in their directory. If you look at ECNL/ECRL directory, they have 140-200 clubs. Neither league can mandate and monitor 240-300+ clubs on how to run their trainings to better develop kids. 240-300 individually run clubs who all think they have the best way of developing and training. 240-300 sets of egos who all know better than everyone else. Every ECNL or GA club recruits. Every ECNL or GA club will find a place for a player who's better that kids they currently have on their rosters. None of them only develop their players from a young age and will turn away better players in the older age groups.

Guess the irony is lost on Robertson when one patch criticizes another patch for advertising their patch.

I would say this, from my exp at GA nationals and playing against Nationals Blue a few times, if you check the schedule the u19s played from wed-fri with semi and finals on mon, the u17s played fri-tues, and u16s played thurs-mon and most of them were supposed to play sat and or sun games which were pushed back. Scouts left midway because they already had flights home and the recruitable players had all played.

As for Nationals and if they recruit vs train, my D has played against them for a few years and a majority of the girls she played against then are the same players now.

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Not about wins and losses.

For those of you bringing up EDP, or local league, this is not the point.

EDP is not national.

Next, for girls, we want to align on 4 practice sessions per week with 1 high quality game. And, we want to audit that this is occurring.

Player development is priority #1.

in the US we have playing options that none of the European clubs have, Title IX that comes with education and scholarship.

important to note that those European clubs adopting similar standards for males means, SCHOOL & EDUCATION comes 2nd. This would take Women’s Right back 75 years on the European continent.

Take home messages are to truly vet the pro’s and con’s on the Woman’s side. Then, be careful what you wish for.