Rutgers=Quality soccer

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Interesting.

Appears as if NJ’s best are going to other schools. Maybe RU’s roster reflects NJ’s second best.

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Great advertisement for PDA and for Rutgers. The Big Ten Network does a great job.

They sure do and if it benefits RU then it’s truly a win win. Hope the men’s program starts to get similar props and recognition now too!

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The problem is twofold. There are not many truly difference making players anywhere and when the NE has one, they rarely consider RU an option. I know it gets clicks and engagement, but the PDA/RU connection is not a net positive if the goal it to be consistently among the top 10 programs in the USA. it is probably good enough to be among the top 25 or so consistently.

Like someone said top programs get their players from all over. RU has done well with what they have but being a mostly NJ roster isn't going to get the job done - besides the obvious fact that top NJ players have many choices and RU/NJ wont appeal to many.

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So RU gets the leftovers while the true top players from PDA go elsewhere? Makes zero sense…..the Big Ten announcers must be clueless then since they repeat over and over that RU keeps the best players in state home to proudly represent their state university. Also tons of props to PDA and rightfully so. They did a whole segment on that during Final 4 last year. Last I checked Final 4 means you’re top 4 in the USA.

And they got bounced early this year. Repeat last years performance a few more times then you can use the term "elite"

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And they got bounced early this year. Repeat last years performance a few more times then you can use the term "elite"

RU 's recruiting class 2020.

Seems like top recruits to me


https://scarletknights.com/news/2020...ationally.aspx


Soccer Nut

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I don’t have time to read back through this thread. The obvious question to me is this. PDA is a top National Club, RU keeps NJ’s best talent home, assuming this is true than why is RU not on par with the nations best programs? And when say on par constantly in the top 10.

1) they don't keep all the states top players
2) top programs shop globally, not just locally
3) a massive, soccer deep state like CA might be able to pull off a championship state squad, but not NJ.

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Can someone define what they mean by a top player? Are we only talking about National team type players? or are we talking about a player that has several D1 power 5 choices, no matter the record of the power 5 conference schools, and decides to or not stay in NJ?

or is it something else?

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Now you know you are never going to get a straight answer on this lol lol. It's kinda like beauty....it's clearly in the eye of the beholder. I feel calling a person a top player depends on how much you pay for those Stars they have next to your name on these sites as topdrawer. Whatever publication that you feel suits your needs or whatever publication has the listeners ear. I laugh at it sometimes because I know people eat that stuff up and it drives people crazy either seeing or not seeing their kids name. In my opinion there are probably way more kids that are not playing in the "Power 5" that are way better then most of these Power 5 kids but they choose a different direction for their own personal future. I think all these kids are top players in my opinion because as elite as I though I was these kids train way harder and have to deal with so much more outside nonsense then any of ever had. Back in the day you only had to worry about if fan (mostly if not all teenagers) heckling you at a game...no not these kids they have grown "A" adults blasting them and their dreams on an open forum. You got grown "A" trying to call out some 13, 14, 15 year old kid for missing a goal opportunity or giving up a goal. Naw these kids are far more top-notch then any of us. I have to say I don't really take that US Soccer stuff too serious as I know its not what you know but who you know and we all know the best of the best does not attend these camps. Its life and we can't be upset that things aren't fair...well I tell my kids that anyway lol.

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RU 's recruiting class 2020.

Seems like top recruits to me


https://scarletknights.com/news/2020...ationally.aspx


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Like the poster said they dropped out early this year. A good program but not an elite one with multiple final fours and a title here and there. Winning consistently takes more than just recruiting. Its also about coaching and chemistry.

And not for nothing but Top Drawer soccer rankings?

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Im not. many people look at players based on what they see on paper, not what we see when we actually watch them play (very few people actually watch objectively to begin with)So much of the perception people have of youth and College players is based on - Club they play for, how many wins they had, individual awards, YNT camps etc. For me, a top player is one that can consistently impact games vs the very best competition, on and off the ball. ive been around the soccer scene for years based on my kids and in that time i dont think i have seen more than 10 truly elite youth players.

Defense wins Championships..............offense sells tickets.

Eric Harris

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Now you know you are never going to get a straight answer on this lol lol. It's kinda like beauty....it's clearly in the eye of the beholder. I feel calling a person a top player depends on how much you pay for those Stars they have next to your name on these sites as topdrawer. Whatever publication that you feel suits your needs or whatever publication has the listeners ear. I laugh at it sometimes because I know people eat that stuff up and it drives people crazy either seeing or not seeing their kids name. In my opinion there are probably way more kids that are not playing in the "Power 5" that are way better then most of these Power 5 kids but they choose a different direction for their own personal future. I think all these kids are top players in my opinion because as elite as I though I was these kids train way harder and have to deal with so much more outside nonsense then any of ever had. Back in the day you only had to worry about if fan (mostly if not all teenagers) heckling you at a game...no not these kids they have grown "A" adults blasting them and their dreams on an open forum. You got grown "A" trying to call out some 13, 14, 15 year old kid for missing a goal opportunity or giving up a goal. Naw these kids are far more top-notch then any of us. I have to say I don't really take that US Soccer stuff too serious as I know its not what you know but who you know and we all know the best of the best does not attend these camps. Its life and we can't be upset that things aren't fair...well I tell my kids that anyway lol.

Eric Harris

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Like the poster said they dropped out early this year. A good program but not an elite one with multiple final fours and a title here and there. Winning consistently takes more than just recruiting. Its also about coaching and chemistry.

And not for nothing but Top Drawer soccer rankings?

Agreed A good program.

Soccer wise. Better than a Michigan this year but worse than Penn State
Academically better than Penn State worse than a Michigan

Not a bad place to be

It may not be the top program but its one of a number of top programs. If your daughter gets an offer from Rutgers, your daughter is a player.



Soccer Nut

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RU 's recruiting class 2020.

Seems like top recruits to me


https://scarletknights.com/news/2020...ationally.aspx


Soccer Nut

Absolutely, thanks for posting Soccer Nut. The haters continue to put down Rutgers saying no top NJ players go there…which is just plain false. They usually get the best the Garden State has to offer. Not all of them, but most of them year after year. Albeit via PDA pipeline, which is one of the top National Academies year after year.

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Could not deliver with top talent, to me it’s Coach’s fault.

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RU 's recruiting class 2020.

Seems like top recruits to me


https://scarletknights.com/news/2020...ationally.aspx


Soccer Nut

Top recruits that O’Neil can’t consistently win with.

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Absolutely, thanks for posting Soccer Nut. The haters continue to put down Rutgers saying no top NJ players go there…which is just plain false. They usually get the best the Garden State has to offer. Not all of them, but most of them year after year. Albeit via PDA pipeline, which is one of the top National Academies year after year.

Ok than where is the issue? It’s a fact that they are not an elite program. Why? I think O’Neil is wrong for this program. You don’t need him to pull from PDA. Most of the kids don’t like him anyway.