ECNL/D1/Pro 0 - Netherlands 3 20U Women’s World Cup

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You have decided that is the purpose of the youth NTs. is that just an opinion or based on actual facts?

Let me guess… you think the USWNT is going to scrap their whole senior team right now for a u20 team? Never going to happen sir. They need to fill a few gaps. This is how it’s been for 30 years. If you listened to the announcers they even said that 4 players max would make it from that u20 team

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You have decided that is the purpose of the youth NTs. is that just an opinion or based on actual facts?

Agree with you. The other poster Keeps repeating the same thing, based on what? Who said that the purpose for the the U20 team is only to find 2-3 players?? I have read the complete opposite. U20 shapes the future of our US team.
it’s not a scouting event mate. And no one is freaking out - so please don’t ruin this civil dialogue. Majority of the current USWNT played U20.

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Agree with you. The other poster Keeps repeating the same thing, based on what? Who said that the purpose for the the U20 team is only to find 2-3 players?? I have read the complete opposite. U20 shapes the future of our US team.
it’s not a scouting event mate. And no one is freaking out - so please don’t ruin this civil dialogue. Majority of the current USWNT played U20.

Yeah and if they pick 3 more from this year the majority will still have played U20. Duh

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The senior team management (coach etc) are not blind to these weaknesses. They are slowly (cannot afford a mutiny) changing the team and bringing in more technical players with high soccer IQs. Look at some of the players that are regularly starting in the midfield now (Horan, Lavelle, Sanchez,...) These are very technically gifted players who can (and do) compete with the best in the world. The youth teams are still very much scouted based on physicality and speed, which is why they struggle in international competitions. Not sure what it will take for changes to be passed down to these levels. It may take a few more years.

Yep, in the meantime size and speed is the ticket for domestic college soccer. It may not be pretty but as long as we only have to play against ourselves, it is effective and will mirror our pay to play system in the US.

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Yep, in the meantime size and speed is the ticket for domestic college soccer. It may not be pretty but as long as we only have to play against ourselves, it is effective and will mirror our pay to play system in the US.

Yeah i think we should all just have our kids play town rec. BC that’s where the real development is. Or maybe just pick up soccer in the park on a dirt field

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Yeah i think we should all just have our kids play town rec. BC that’s where the real development is. Or maybe just pick up soccer in the park on a dirt field

Imagine if these athletic kids in ECNL were taught how to play soccer how well that would look-

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Imagine if these athletic kids in ECNL were taught how to play soccer how well that would look-

Imagination doesn’t help out the current choices. Give some real options. Guess what there aren’t many. Just club ball and a bunch of bellyachers.

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Let me guess… you think the USWNT is going to scrap their whole senior team right now for a u20 team? Never going to happen sir. They need to fill a few gaps. This is how it’s been for 30 years. If you listened to the announcers they even said that 4 players max would make it from that u20 team

no idea what gave you that impression. the nature of most teams is players make it when their performances warrant it. Problem in the USA is who decides and based on what. go ask the players if they think the purpose was to support 3 or 4 handpicked players candidacy for the full team. If it was, no wonder they perform so poorly AS A TEAM

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Yep, in the meantime size and speed is the ticket for domestic college soccer. It may not be pretty but as long as we only have to play against ourselves, it is effective and will mirror our pay to play system in the US.

this statement is not fair. Domestic College soccer is, bar a few schools, not of a high standard. The goal is to win and then move on with life. The fastest way to do that with limited quality and the current sub rules is with athletes. UNC won titles for years doing just that. If you want to compare the top 10 schools with the pro development elsewhere in the world, then it is a much more even fight. Alessia Russo and Lotte Wubben Moy benefitted from the US College system being part of their development. Many others have as well. The issue is more about the tools the kids arrive on campus with than poor coaching. until we start weeding out kids based on real ability earlier and providing pathways that are tailored to ability, this is what you get.

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no idea what gave you that impression. the nature of most teams is players make it when their performances warrant it. Problem in the USA is who decides and based on what. go ask the players if they think the purpose was to support 3 or 4 handpicked players candidacy for the full team. If it was, no wonder they perform so poorly AS A TEAM

Nobody thinks they are supporting anyone else. Everyone is trying hard to make the senior team. Which in some aspects is why you saw lots girls taking on 2-3 defenders while others are standing wide open. But fact is that only 3-4 of this u20 team are going to make the national team. Everyone knows it and they are all fighting for those spots.

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Nobody thinks they are supporting anyone else. Everyone is trying hard to make the senior team. Which in some aspects is why you saw lots girls taking on 2-3 defenders while others are standing wide open. But fact is that only 3-4 of this u20 team are going to make the national team. Everyone knows it and they are all fighting for those spots.

"Which in some aspects is why you saw lots girls taking on 2-3 defenders while others are standing wide open"

I wonder why US players think beating two or three players is the ticket to the National team. Wouldn't it be great if they thought quick passing and movement was the key to making the National team. The u20 game would be better instantly-instead, they do what they think will get them rewarded. Why not, it's worked for them their whole lives. If we just changed that one aspect of scouting, I dare say, we might just have a different group of players out there.

Soccer Nut

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"Which in some aspects is why you saw lots girls taking on 2-3 defenders while others are standing wide open"

I wonder why US players think beating two or three players is the ticket to the National team. Wouldn't it be great if they thought quick passing and movement was the key to making the National team. The u20 game would be better instantly-instead, they do what they think will get them rewarded. Why not, it's worked for them their whole lives. If we just changed that one aspect of scouting, I dare say, we might just have a different group of players out there.

Soccer Nut

Hard to scout those types of players when 1) they are in short supply 2) it's not what gets them ahead from U13+

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Hard to scout those types of players when 1) they are in short supply 2) it's not what gets them ahead from U13+

Sorry but my D’s coach despises when girls do that. It’s a blanket statement to say this is how they are taught. I think when girls feel like they need to be seen they try to do too much. It happens at every level in all sports. And btw that type of play is horrendously contagious. The coach could simply put a halt to it. It’s not very hard when the coach is 100% in control of the PT.

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"Which in some aspects is why you saw lots girls taking on 2-3 defenders while others are standing wide open"

I wonder why US players think beating two or three players is the ticket to the National team. Wouldn't it be great if they thought quick passing and movement was the key to making the National team. The u20 game would be better instantly-instead, they do what they think will get them rewarded. Why not, it's worked for them their whole lives. If we just changed that one aspect of scouting, I dare say, we might just have a different group of players out there.

Soccer Nut

Exactly. They think it because that is who we pick and celebrate. In the USA it’s all about individuals. Morgan Brian is treated like a bust. If you score you are a hero. It’s one dimensional soccer played by mostly one dimensional players. Dribble. Head down. Shoot. Rinse repeat. A few go in and it’s endless loops on SM and a contract from Nike

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Sorry but my D’s coach despises when girls do that. It’s a blanket statement to say this is how they are taught. I think when girls feel like they need to be seen they try to do too much. It happens at every level in all sports. And btw that type of play is horrendously contagious. The coach could simply put a halt to it. It’s not very hard when the coach is 100% in control of the PT.

don’t think op said it’s how they were taught. It is what is rewarded. Athletic players who make the right play should be the gold standard