Using wins and losses to evaluate teams

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Parents need to “stay in their lane” when it comes to their daughters soccer. I cannot say it enough. 99.9% of these parents never played soccer growing up, never watched it on tv and know nothing about development about soccer. I don’t care if you payed professionally in another sport, its not soccer. I played high school soccer when it wasn’t cool and played D1 soccer in college. I have teammates and friends who are now D1 College coaches. He was in NJ for the PDA College showcase and came with me to watch my daughters game as a family friend not wearing any of his college gear. We were standing on the sideline watching the game and unfortunately we were near some parents yelling instructions to the players, talking about how bad the coach was and yelling and trying to intimidate the linesman. We glanced over towards them and they immediately jumped all over us as being uneducated about soccer and what do we know. That is why more and more coaches at these events stand on parent sidelines ad thoroughly vette parents of players they are recruiting.

I am not defending their comments to you and your friend but i find it hard to believe that they "jumped all over" both of you with just a glance. Please.

And just how fragile are you and your friend? I guess you were never in a group at the office that bashed management for one reason or another. That never yelled out while watching a basketball game; football game either at the game or while at a bar or even at home. It is called being a fan. And fans are critical too. It is part of our fabric as a fan.

If they aren't personal or physical attacks toward anyone, then it is part of the game; part of the sport. I watch both coaches and bench yell out at bad calls; bad or reckless play, including pro games asking for cards, etc. Are they above the fans? No. They are just as passionate.

Over the top is different but being a fan, cheering, jeering, etc is part of the game. Ask any player in college that gets jeered by the opponent and their fan base. It can be brutal. Thick skin needed by all.

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I am not defending their comments to you and your friend but i find it hard to believe that they "jumped all over" both of you with just a glance. Please.

And just how fragile are you and your friend? I guess you were never in a group at the office that bashed management for one reason or another. That never yelled out while watching a basketball game; football game either at the game or while at a bar or even at home. It is called being a fan. And fans are critical too. It is part of our fabric as a fan.

If they aren't personal or physical attacks toward anyone, then it is part of the game; part of the sport. I watch both coaches and bench yell out at bad calls; bad or reckless play, including pro games asking for cards, etc. Are they above the fans? No. They are just as passionate.

Over the top is different but being a fan, cheering, jeering, etc is part of the game. Ask any player in college that gets jeered by the opponent and their fan base. It can be brutal. Thick skin needed by all.

We are talking about your daughters club soccer match that she is playing. Do you really don’t see he difference between a club soccer match with kids playing and going to a professional match? Really? Are you a fan or a parent? If you do not see the distinction then that’s a big problem.

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We are talking about your daughters club soccer match that she is playing. Do you really don’t see he difference between a club soccer match with kids playing and going to a professional match? Really? Are you a fan or a parent? If you do not see the distinction then that’s a big problem.

So what are you saying?

We can't cheer; make a comment to ref if he or she lets a kid punch another in the head to please not allow that; to acknowledge good play from both teams. Is this golf?

And if a coach is berating a child, you want us to not let him or her (most times him) know we think it is wrong even if that means talking about the bad behavior in a group? I recently had to correct a young male coach that called a u12/13 male player on the field a slow fat slob. And i was just picking up my kid who was watching her friend's game. Unacceptable. I yelled "not cool coach." He got the message.

So poster, I don't care if you don't like that. You are part of the bigger problem. Btw - Parents on the sidelines looked petrified to say something and thanked me when I did.

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All parents should “stay in their lane”. This is their sport on and off the pitch. Playing on a team is an important growth opportunity as an individual as well as within a group. It’s way more than a few loudmouth parents. Don’t minimize this serious problem. I have seen too many embarrassing moments that players have witnessed regarding parent conduct.

How do you witness embarrassing moments of parents who are not loudmouths?

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Stay away from British coaches. Generally speaking lack of creativity and ingenuity. Go with South American or Portuguese, German etc.

Yet another clueless American soccer parent. Stick to baseball or basketball. Have you watched the Prem?

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Yet another clueless American soccer parent. Stick to baseball or basketball. Have you watched the Prem?

Aren't the best players from Argentina, Brazil and Portugal?

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Yet another clueless American soccer parent. Stick to baseball or basketball. Have you watched the Prem?

Which of the coaches in the prem are from England? Not Klopp. Not Pep. Not Tuchel. Not Arteta. Not Conte. Not Rangnick. Not Moyes. Not Lage. Need to go to 9th place to find Steven Gerrard at Villa. In their own league!

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Which of the coaches in the prem are from England? Not Klopp. Not Pep. Not Tuchel. Not Arteta. Not Conte. Not Rangnick. Not Moyes. Not Lage. Need to go to 9th place to find Steven Gerrard at Villa. In their own league!

Facts. Clearly mate is English and clueless

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I’m Tony Pulis and I’m more than a little upset with the turn this discuss has taken

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Facts. Clearly mate is English and clueless

How about Southampton nope not English, Wolves? Nope not English, maybe Brentford nope not English. But they sure are good enough to coach here in the US of A. Tells you something doesn’t it?

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How about Southampton nope not English, Wolves? Nope not English, maybe Brentford nope not English. But they sure are good enough to coach here in the US of A. Tells you something doesn’t it?

They're definitely not. If they were, we'd be reaping the benefits with our youth national teams. Sadly, some parents here are enamored with an accent.

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Many of the coaches that come here are young. It's fun to live in another country when you're not tied down with family etc. Also in other nations there are loads of coaches. Doesn't mean you're a bad coach coming here but it's not always easy to break into it at home. Bigger issue is why do clubs hire international coaches? Money? Lack of supply here? Both?

Speaking English fluently is an asset with kids and parents. We've had a few over the years from other countries where the accent was really tough for younger kids. Over the years my three players have have had great coaches from Englad, Wales and from other countries, along with a few utter duds. Same can be said with plenty of US coaches also

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Agreed. To me it’s the ease of the language to help foreign coach assimilate.

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Many of the coaches that come here are young. It's fun to live in another country when you're not tied down with family etc. Also in other nations there are loads of coaches. Doesn't mean you're a bad coach coming here but it's not always easy to break into it at home. Bigger issue is why do clubs hire international coaches? Money? Lack of supply here? Both?

Speaking English fluently is an asset with kids and parents. We've had a few over the years from other countries where the accent was really tough for younger kids. Over the years my three players have have had great coaches from Englad, Wales and from other countries, along with a few utter duds. Same can be said with plenty of US coaches also

We had a hispanic kid on the team whose parents had a hard time with the coach's English accent.

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We had a hispanic kid on the team whose parents had a hard time with the coach's English accent.

Well if all the other kids didn't have a problem? oh well. Can't make everyone happy 100% of the rime.