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    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    no i never compared the two clubs. I was making a point that even the best soccer club in the world need to being in talent bc they can’t simply produce it all the time. So just slapping an ecnl badge on a club and training kids doesn’t equate to average kids becoming great. They need to consolidate all the talent.
    You missed the comparison, one stifles the competition while the other actively encourages it. You think the players at those dozen plus clubs the support only go to La Masia?

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      Nobody is stealing talent. Talent gladly goes to PDA. They do not stop developing at PDA. Their are plenty of girls who were developed since ulittle at PDA. Don’t hate the player hate the game.
      They do stop developing and then blame the players if they don't get better. Kind of like going to college and failing math 101 and your prof saying you should have passed by reading the book even though they didn't teach anything in class. D's team, PDA ECNL, has had a 70%+ turn over from the u little days and is now turning over players that weren't in u littles. Players gladly go to PDA with the promise of starting/playing for Blue then wind up on White, the RL roster or non-roster bench. Once you are locked in that is it for the year, per ECNL rules you can't move between ECNL rosters, you may even be tossed a carrot of a game or 2 and more promises of Blue that never come to pass. After a year or 2 maybe even 3 combined with the lack of training this player is now a few steps below where they could have been had they been trained especially if they started at the u13/u14 ages. People have way to much faith that PDA Blue is the best of the best but when you start to pry into everything it is all show compared to what other areas provide. They are in a division with little to no competition because they won't allow it so they can go to nationals at ever age. The Rutgers coach takes a few every year which bolsters their college ranks. All parents and players ever see is the shiny outside of all the Blue teams go to nationals and PDA has 50+ players every year going to play in college but few look into the actual numbers and the effect of not making the active roster for Blue can cause. Mines tired of the shenanigans with the coach, players and parents and will be leaving and the colleges she is interested in are supportive of that. PDA didn't make her and she'll even tell you that her youth coach make her the player she is and the outside training she got made her.

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        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        They do stop developing and then blame the players if they don't get better. Kind of like going to college and failing math 101 and your prof saying you should have passed by reading the book even though they didn't teach anything in class. D's team, PDA ECNL, has had a 70%+ turn over from the u little days and is now turning over players that weren't in u littles. Players gladly go to PDA with the promise of starting/playing for Blue then wind up on White, the RL roster or non-roster bench. Once you are locked in that is it for the year, per ECNL rules you can't move between ECNL rosters, you may even be tossed a carrot of a game or 2 and more promises of Blue that never come to pass. After a year or 2 maybe even 3 combined with the lack of training this player is now a few steps below where they could have been had they been trained especially if they started at the u13/u14 ages. People have way to much faith that PDA Blue is the best of the best but when you start to pry into everything it is all show compared to what other areas provide. They are in a division with little to no competition because they won't allow it so they can go to nationals at ever age. The Rutgers coach takes a few every year which bolsters their college ranks. All parents and players ever see is the shiny outside of all the Blue teams go to nationals and PDA has 50+ players every year going to play in college but few look into the actual numbers and the effect of not making the active roster for Blue can cause. Mines tired of the shenanigans with the coach, players and parents and will be leaving and the colleges she is interested in are supportive of that. PDA didn't make her and she'll even tell you that her youth coach make her the player she is and the outside training she got made her.
        I must be lucky. My kid loves it and never has any coach stopped trying to develop her or the entire team.

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          You missed the comparison, one stifles the competition while the other actively encourages it. You think the players at those dozen plus clubs the support only go to La Masia?
          We are talking about two different things here. You are talking about ecnl being too inclusive and i am talking about kids and all humans having a certain ceiling to athleticism.

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            They do stop developing and then blame the players if they don't get better. Kind of like going to college and failing math 101 and your prof saying you should have passed by reading the book even though they didn't teach anything in class. D's team, PDA ECNL, has had a 70%+ turn over from the u little days and is now turning over players that weren't in u littles. Players gladly go to PDA with the promise of starting/playing for Blue then wind up on White, the RL roster or non-roster bench. Once you are locked in that is it for the year, per ECNL rules you can't move between ECNL rosters, you may even be tossed a carrot of a game or 2 and more promises of Blue that never come to pass. After a year or 2 maybe even 3 combined with the lack of training this player is now a few steps below where they could have been had they been trained especially if they started at the u13/u14 ages. People have way to much faith that PDA Blue is the best of the best but when you start to pry into everything it is all show compared to what other areas provide. They are in a division with little to no competition because they won't allow it so they can go to nationals at ever age. The Rutgers coach takes a few every year which bolsters their college ranks. All parents and players ever see is the shiny outside of all the Blue teams go to nationals and PDA has 50+ players every year going to play in college but few look into the actual numbers and the effect of not making the active roster for Blue can cause. Mines tired of the shenanigans with the coach, players and parents and will be leaving and the colleges she is interested in are supportive of that. PDA didn't make her and she'll even tell you that her youth coach make her the player she is and the outside training she got made her.
            This is super real and 100% accurate. Those that stay usually are connected to the coach or MO or too stupid. Other than that and when you dive deeper you will find- very little- it’s a revolving door of players, poor training and facilities that don’t have a proper place to take a piss or wash your hands.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              I must be lucky. My kid loves it and never has any coach stopped trying to develop her or the entire team.
              Definitely don’t think you are lucky. You are likely blind or pretending. Carry on

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                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                I must be lucky. My kid loves it and never has any coach stopped trying to develop her or the entire team.
                Thanks Mike you would have that take.

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                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  Definitely don’t think you are lucky. You are likely blind or pretending. Carry on
                  Well it doesn’t matter to me what you think. I will make whatever decisions i think are right for my kid. I am glad you found a better situation for yours. Have a wonderful day

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    They do stop developing and then blame the players if they don't get better. Kind of like going to college and failing math 101 and your prof saying you should have passed by reading the book even though they didn't teach anything in class. D's team, PDA ECNL, has had a 70%+ turn over from the u little days and is now turning over players that weren't in u littles. Players gladly go to PDA with the promise of starting/playing for Blue then wind up on White, the RL roster or non-roster bench. Once you are locked in that is it for the year, per ECNL rules you can't move between ECNL rosters, you may even be tossed a carrot of a game or 2 and more promises of Blue that never come to pass. After a year or 2 maybe even 3 combined with the lack of training this player is now a few steps below where they could have been had they been trained especially if they started at the u13/u14 ages. People have way to much faith that PDA Blue is the best of the best but when you start to pry into everything it is all show compared to what other areas provide. They are in a division with little to no competition because they won't allow it so they can go to nationals at ever age. The Rutgers coach takes a few every year which bolsters their college ranks. All parents and players ever see is the shiny outside of all the Blue teams go to nationals and PDA has 50+ players every year going to play in college but few look into the actual numbers and the effect of not making the active roster for Blue can cause. Mines tired of the shenanigans with the coach, players and parents and will be leaving and the colleges she is interested in are supportive of that. PDA didn't make her and she'll even tell you that her youth coach make her the player she is and the outside training she got made her.
                    Don't know much about PDA, but CSA probably has the most turnover than any club I've seen. The 09 team lost 5 kids, and thats just jfrom the first half of the season. And they are a GA club, which I thought that's what this thread was about.

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                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      Don't know much about PDA, but CSA probably has the most turnover than any club I've seen. The 09 team lost 5 kids, and thats just jfrom the first half of the season. And they are a GA club, which I thought that's what this thread was about.
                      Missed the part about will ECNL expand this year? Strange as it is part of the header.

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                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        Definitely don’t think you are lucky. You are likely blind or pretending. Carry on
                        not the poster but some kids have that inner drive and never stop - they work on their own, have the ball at their feet all the time, can't get enough. It doesn't happen often but those kids definitely are out there.

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                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          Missed the part about will ECNL expand this year? Strange as it is part of the header.
                          Are you new to Talking Soccer? Almost any thread will devolve into unrelated topics and club bashing

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            Don't know much about PDA, but CSA probably has the most turnover than any club I've seen. The 09 team lost 5 kids, and thats just jfrom the first half of the season. And they are a GA club, which I thought that's what this thread was about.
                            They lost 5 bottom of the rotation players. Remember, he had to rebuild the team on the fly during a pandemic. Players he had to take then didn't cut it once others started coming on board.

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              Are you new to Talking Soccer? Almost any thread will devolve into unrelated topics and club bashing
                              True but PDA is ECNL and the reason ECNL doesn't expand beyond PDA South is PDA controls that decision.

                              Can anyone truly argue PDA South deserved a badge other than the "relationship" they don't even have with PDA North.

                              You must be new yourself thinking the other poster was correct even though they were totally wrong.

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                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                True but PDA is ECNL and the reason ECNL doesn't expand beyond PDA South is PDA controls that decision.

                                Can anyone truly argue PDA South deserved a badge other than the "relationship" they don't even have with PDA North.

                                You must be new yourself thinking the other poster was correct even though they were totally wrong.
                                If PDA was ECNL Matchfit never would have gotten a badge. Also they would have it stripped from them now. What Matchfit is doing to those girls is awful.

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