Jefferson Cup 2022

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Everyone is constantly complaining that pda blue doesn’t play usys and ga teams. Let’s see how they compare

No kidding. They bitch now it’s a waste of time?

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They should get a grasp on how to win with the bench players. Showcase and losing sound bad together.

There is an entire chat about how showcases for PDA are not about winning and college coaches don’t care. Which makes absolutely no sense to anyone.
The winning teams are celebrating and posting their wins and tagging the colleges as was ECNL. But for PDA losing — it didn’t count, didn’t matter. if it really doesn’t matter it’s even more infuriating. If colleges are seriously looking at bench players that lose at showcase perhaps we really all should have our kids sit the bench at PDA?

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There is an entire chat about how showcases for PDA are not about winning and college coaches don’t care. Which makes absolutely no sense to anyone.
The winning teams are celebrating and posting their wins and tagging the colleges as was ECNL. But for PDA losing — it didn’t count, didn’t matter. if it really doesn’t matter it’s even more infuriating. If colleges are seriously looking at bench players that lose at showcase perhaps we really all should have our kids sit the bench at PDA?

While players do want to win, what they care more about post showcase is who came to see them and did they reach out afterwards. It's nonsense to say you can't show well on a losing team. If that were the case far fewer players would ever get recruited

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They should get a grasp on how to win with the bench players. Showcase and losing sound bad together.

Only to you

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While players do want to win, what they care more about post showcase is who came to see them and did they reach out afterwards. It's nonsense to say you can't show well on a losing team. If that were the case far fewer players would ever get recruited

What is nonsense is saying you look good losing. Now that is totally a 2022 perspective. Got to talk yourself into something positive I guess. Why are such good players losing? Trying to look good instead of playing soccer?

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Only to you

Thanks Mike. For the record I will not be sponsoring another hole this year despite the begging.

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Only to you

Said another way.


"Let me showcase how good I am at losing."

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They lie by ommision. PDA has a good grasp on the college pathway scam. I have 2 kids in college who didn't play for PDA. You would think based on the butt kissing here that the only way to get into college is to pay to play at PDA.

I see a lot more PDA bashing on TS than butt kidding. It simply comes down to college placement stats which are black and white. To deny that they exist is foolish. Now, if PDA is as bad as some of the haters say they are, then it will eventually surface in their results and college placements. Until then…

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Said another way.


"Let me showcase how good I am at losing."

^^^this. LOL

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I see a lot more PDA bashing on TS than butt kidding. It simply comes down to college placement stats which are black and white. To deny that they exist is foolish. Now, if PDA is as bad as some of the haters say they are, then it will eventually surface in their results and college placements. Until then…

They just lost majority of game at a college showcase by big margins at nearly every age --against teams that arguably not that good. So they do lose. And again if you look at the list of college there is such a big variety and some no one has even heard of. There is quality and then there is quantity. PDA is excels at quantity.

They do it on all their teams and college recruits. If they were as good as they once were, there would be massive numbers called up to the NT year after year and that is just not happening. They would also being winning championships year after year, not happening. Sweeping showcases - not happening. Winning at their own PDA tournaments - not happening. They do one thing well - they win most of their league games - and those are the scores reported. However, I will say one thing -- the 2007 blue team is pretty good. But they also ALL train consistently outside of PDA (sorry Mike, but they do) so I would give credit to the trainers not PDA on that age.

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... However, I will say one thing -- the 2007 blue team is pretty good. But they also ALL train consistently outside of PDA (sorry Mike, but they do) so I would give credit to the trainers not PDA on that age.

Agreed. There are zero players we know that can say are trained by PDA coaches exclusively. There is a lot of PDA training (camps, winter sessions, top corner, etc.) and it's good. However, all of the families we know take their sons and daughters to outside coaches too. As it should be. You want your players to be exposed to different voices, different coaching, different styles. Often times, hearing the same message from a different person makes the world of a difference. Nothing wrong with outside training. It should be encouraged.

The raised eyebrows come when a coach demands that all training go through him/her and then they turn around and charge families for the extra sessions.

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Agreed. There are zero players we know that can say are trained by PDA coaches exclusively. There is a lot of PDA training (camps, winter sessions, top corner, etc.) and it's good. However, all of the families we know take their sons and daughters to outside coaches too. As it should be. You want your players to be exposed to different voices, different coaching, different styles. Often times, hearing the same message from a different person makes the world of a difference. Nothing wrong with outside training. It should be encouraged.

The raised eyebrows come when a coach demands that all training go through him/her and then they turn around and charge families for the extra sessions.

No coach at PDA encourages outside training or playing with other teams yet many many do- the smart ones play in games and hope they don’t get caught.
They have to because PDA simply doesn’t offer enough to keep up.

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No coach at PDA encourages outside training or playing with other teams yet many many do- the smart ones play in games and hope they don’t get caught.
They have to because PDA simply doesn’t offer enough to keep up.

That is an issue at every club. Practicing 3 days a week will only get you so far, no matter how good the training. Motivated players that want to push ahead will do more - they will do outside training, do skill work in their own, workouts etc. At highly competitive clubs like PDA you're likely to see more of that than at an mid or lower level club.

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They just lost majority of game at a college showcase by big margins at nearly every age --against teams that arguably not that good. So they do lose. And again if you look at the list of college there is such a big variety and some no one has even heard of. There is quality and then there is quantity. PDA is excels at quantity.

They do it on all their teams and college recruits. If they were as good as they once were, there would be massive numbers called up to the NT year after year and that is just not happening. They would also being winning championships year after year, not happening. Sweeping showcases - not happening. Winning at their own PDA tournaments - not happening. They do one thing well - they win most of their league games - and those are the scores reported. However, I will say one thing -- the 2007 blue team is pretty good. But they also ALL train consistently outside of PDA (sorry Mike, but they do) so I would give credit to the trainers not PDA on that age.

Not the OP but NT level players are a different breed and aren't just created by clubs. Genetics, inner drive, field perception...so many things that separate them from the pack. How many of these players per capita are there in any given area?

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Not the OP but NT level players are a different breed and aren't just created by clubs. Genetics, inner drive, field perception...so many things that separate them from the pack. How many of these players per capita are there in any given area?

At Pda, MF, CSA and the rest like 1 for every 1. Just ask the parents.